Fabian Troll Strategy (Destiny)
This means activating its signature feature reduced your damage output.
I'm not sure what you mean by this. You're firing the same number of bullets per reload, right?Is it actually reducing the damage per bullet when the fire rate increases? I mean, I know faster firing ARs generally do less per round, but that doesn't dynamically scale for Fabian Strategy, does it? Or... does it? I guess I've never compared the damage numbers.
Or maybe you're just assuming that you'll miss more shots with the higher fire rate (although for me, the stability increase seems to make up for that)?
From the Nov 20th weapon tuning update:
Fabian Strategy
Currently the effect of Front Lines is subtle and requires close attention to notice. The new approach to Front Lines focuses on a more tangible experience: we increase the base Rate of Fire stat and push the weapon up to the fastest firing Auto Rifle archetype, enabling the weapon to do more damage in less time (as long as you don’t miss). The visceral reply of the weapon as it cranks through the magazine feels much more appropriate for a Titan on the front lines, and the already ample Stability boost helps keep the rounds tight and focused. The new approach exposed a few bugs with magazine inconsistencies so we needed to retrofit the stat upgrade perks with new options.Changes:
Front Lines perk on Fabian Strategy no longer buffs Rate of Fire as a bonus modifier. Front Lines now increases the base Rate of Fire stat to highest speed. Damage per bullet is offset to match the High RoF archetype.
Removed Extended Mag perk and replaced with Flared Magwell. Removed Small Bore perk and replaced with Rifled Barrel. Needed to make these changes to prevent shipping a magazine bug that could trigger when reloading the weapon while Front Lines perk was active.
Increased base Reload and Stability on the weapon to help offset the removed stat upgrades.
The Fabian Strategy has always felt underpowered and underranged to me. Knowing that it actually gets less powerful as you get closer always annoyed me. Maybe now it will be a bit better but I'm not sure it will be good enough for me to swap away from something like Hard Light or Monte Carlo.
Complete thread:
- Weapon Tuning Update -
bluerunner,
2016-09-08, 14:27
- Weapon Tuning Update -
Revenant1988,
2016-09-08, 14:35
- Weapon Tuning Update -
Cody Miller,
2016-09-08, 14:59
- Weapon Tuning Update - Ragashingo, 2016-09-08, 15:28
- It needs to fire a slug, not shot. -
Revenant1988,
2016-09-08, 15:36
- But The Chaperone does that instead. - someotherguy, 2016-09-08, 15:37
- People who mastered it in trials were near unstoppable. - slycrel, 2016-09-08, 17:17
- Weapon Tuning Update -
CruelLEGACEY,
2016-09-08, 17:19
- I used UR on a Titan last IB - Durandal, 2016-09-08, 21:01
- I'm hoping typo -
someotherguy,
2016-09-08, 15:26
- I'm hoping typo - stabbim, 2016-09-08, 17:30
- Weapon Tuning Update - BeardFade, 2016-09-08, 17:26
- Weapon Tuning Update -
Cody Miller,
2016-09-08, 14:59
- Surplus buff. Maybe fixed firefly. - ProbablyLast, 2016-09-08, 15:00
- SURPLUS REIGNS SUPREME -
Funkmon,
2016-09-08, 15:03
- SURPLUS REIGNS SUPREME - stabbim, 2016-09-08, 17:36
- Welcome back! - Kermit, 2016-09-08, 20:35
- *Waves* Good to see you buddy - Pyromancy, 2016-09-09, 06:43
- Really happy with the sniper nerfs... -
Korny,
2016-09-08, 15:03
- Disappointed tho... -
slycrel,
2016-09-08, 17:10
- Disappointed tho... -
BeardFade,
2016-09-08, 17:28
- Disappointed tho... -
stabbim,
2016-09-08, 17:50
- Disappointed tho... -
BeardFade,
2016-09-08, 17:53
- Disappointed tho... -
unoudid,
2016-09-08, 17:59
- Good luck finding enough ammo :p - ZackDark, 2016-09-08, 18:13
- Disappointed tho... -
unoudid,
2016-09-08, 17:59
- It really, really helps -
ZackDark,
2016-09-08, 18:14
- It really, really helps - stabbim, 2016-09-08, 18:38
- Required? No. But far superior to the alternatives? 100% -
someotherguy,
2016-09-08, 18:32
- Required? No. But far superior to the alternatives? 100% -
stabbim,
2016-09-08, 18:38
- Required? No. But far superior to the alternatives? 100% -
someotherguy,
2016-09-08, 18:47
- Required? No. But far superior to the alternatives? 100% -
stabbim,
2016-09-08, 18:53
- Required? No. But far superior to the alternatives? 100% - someotherguy, 2016-09-08, 18:59
- Required? No. But far superior to the alternatives? 100% -
Kermit,
2016-09-09, 00:31
- Required? No. But far superior to the alternatives? 100% -
stabbim,
2016-09-09, 01:18
- Required? No. But far superior to the alternatives? 100% -
Kermit,
2016-09-09, 01:30
- Required? No. But far superior to the alternatives? 100% -
cheapLEY,
2016-09-09, 01:34
- Required? No. But far superior to the alternatives? 100% -
Kermit,
2016-09-09, 02:24
- Hahaha -
ZackDark,
2016-09-09, 09:21
- Yeah, that was a seriously chill bugging out -
kidtsunami,
2016-09-09, 11:53
- Yeah, that was a seriously chill bugging out -
Kermit,
2016-09-09, 13:21
- Yeah, that was a seriously chill bugging out -
stabbim,
2016-09-09, 13:51
- Yeah, that was a seriously chill bugging out -
Kermit,
2016-09-09, 14:25
- Kermit has all of you fooled -
marmot 1333,
2016-09-09, 14:48
- +1 - someotherguy, 2016-09-09, 15:06
- Kermit has all of you fooled -
Kermit,
2016-09-09, 15:16
- Kermit has all of you fooled -
Claude Errera,
2016-09-09, 15:23
- No one can demonstrate the difficulty of that like me. -
Kermit,
2016-09-09, 15:30
- lol - Claude Errera, 2016-09-09, 16:16
- No one can demonstrate the difficulty of that like me. -
Kermit,
2016-09-09, 15:30
- Kermit has all of you fooled - SonofMacPhisto, 2016-09-09, 19:10
- Kermit has all of you fooled -
Claude Errera,
2016-09-09, 15:23
- Kermit has all of you fooled -
marmot 1333,
2016-09-09, 14:48
- Yeah, that was a seriously chill bugging out -
Kermit,
2016-09-09, 14:25
- Yeah, that was a seriously chill bugging out -
stabbim,
2016-09-09, 13:51
- Yeah, that was a seriously chill bugging out -
Kermit,
2016-09-09, 13:21
- Yeah, that was a seriously chill bugging out -
kidtsunami,
2016-09-09, 11:53
- Hahaha -
ZackDark,
2016-09-09, 09:21
- What cheapLEY said ^ -
someotherguy,
2016-09-09, 06:29
- What cheapLEY said ^ - Kermit, 2016-09-09, 13:28
- What cheapLEY said ^ - stabbim, 2016-09-09, 13:49
- Required? No. But far superior to the alternatives? 100% -
Kermit,
2016-09-09, 02:24
- Required? No. But far superior to the alternatives? 100% -
cheapLEY,
2016-09-09, 01:34
- Required? No. But far superior to the alternatives? 100% -
Kermit,
2016-09-09, 01:30
- Required? No. But far superior to the alternatives? 100% -
stabbim,
2016-09-09, 01:18
- Required? No. But far superior to the alternatives? 100% -
stabbim,
2016-09-08, 18:53
- The key word here is "far" -
ZackDark,
2016-09-08, 18:47
- The key word here is "far" -
stabbim,
2016-09-08, 18:53
- Heh, KF really does bring out the worst in people, I guess -
ZackDark,
2016-09-08, 19:09
- No doubt - stabbim, 2016-09-08, 19:11
- Heh, KF really does bring out the worst in people, I guess -
ZackDark,
2016-09-08, 19:09
- The key word here is "far" -
stabbim,
2016-09-08, 18:53
- Required? No. But far superior to the alternatives? 100% -
unoudid,
2016-09-08, 18:49
- Required? No. But far superior to the alternatives? 100% - stabbim, 2016-09-08, 18:58
- Required? No. But far superior to the alternatives? 100% -
someotherguy,
2016-09-08, 18:47
- Required? No. But far superior to the alternatives? 100% -
stabbim,
2016-09-08, 18:38
- Disappointed tho... -
BeardFade,
2016-09-08, 17:53
- Disappointed tho... -
stabbim,
2016-09-08, 17:50
- Disappointed tho... -
BeardFade,
2016-09-08, 17:28
- Disappointed tho... -
slycrel,
2016-09-08, 17:10
- Still no Gjallarhorn nerf details. -
ProbablyLast,
2016-09-08, 15:12
- Still no Gjallarhorn nerf details. -
Xenos,
2016-09-08, 15:22
- That would be cool - ProbablyLast, 2016-09-08, 15:23
- Still no Gjallarhorn nerf details. -
Xenos,
2016-09-08, 15:22
- Weapon Tuning Update -
Ragashingo,
2016-09-08, 15:23
- Weapon Tuning Update -
unoudid,
2016-09-08, 16:46
- Weapon Tuning Update -
Blackt1g3r,
2016-09-08, 17:15
- Weapon Tuning Update - Xenos, 2016-09-08, 17:28
- Weapon Tuning Update -
Blackt1g3r,
2016-09-08, 17:15
- Weapon Tuning Update - BeardFade, 2016-09-08, 17:29
- Weapon Tuning Update -
unoudid,
2016-09-08, 16:46
- Fabian Troll Strategy -
someotherguy,
2016-09-08, 15:29
- Fabian Troll Strategy -
Ragashingo,
2016-09-08, 15:32
- Fabian Troll Strategy -
stabbim,
2016-09-08, 18:02
- Fabian Troll Strategy -
bluerunner,
2016-09-08, 18:18
- Also a good point - stabbim, 2016-09-08, 18:40
- This - ZackDark, 2016-09-08, 18:22
- Fabian Troll Strategy -
Ragashingo,
2016-09-08, 18:40
- Fabian Troll Strategy -
stabbim,
2016-09-08, 18:46
- Fabian Troll Strategy - bluerunner, 2016-09-08, 19:18
- Fabian Troll Strategy -
Ragashingo,
2016-09-08, 19:20
- Im still adamant that quote is a lie -
someotherguy,
2016-09-08, 19:30
- Im still adamant that quote is a lie -
Ragashingo,
2016-09-08, 19:38
- Im still adamant that quote is a lie - Harmanimus, 2016-09-08, 19:58
- Im still adamant that quote is a lie -
stabbim,
2016-09-08, 20:05
- Im still adamant that quote is a lie -
someotherguy,
2016-09-08, 20:22
- Im still adamant that quote is a lie - stabbim, 2016-09-09, 01:20
- Im still adamant that quote is a lie -
someotherguy,
2016-09-08, 20:22
- Im still adamant that quote is a lie -
Ragashingo,
2016-09-08, 19:38
- Im still adamant that quote is a lie -
someotherguy,
2016-09-08, 19:30
- Fabian Troll Strategy -
stabbim,
2016-09-08, 18:46
- Fabian Troll Strategy -
bluerunner,
2016-09-08, 18:18
- Fabian Troll Strategy -
stabbim,
2016-09-08, 18:02
- Fabian Troll Strategy -
Ragashingo,
2016-09-08, 15:32
- Grenades and Horseshoes nerfed into oblivion? -
Ragashingo,
2016-09-08, 15:40
- Grenades and Horseshoes nerfed into oblivion? - Cody Miller, 2016-09-08, 15:50
- Truth doesn't change, it's what people use mostly anyhow. - slycrel, 2016-09-08, 17:15
- RIP touch of malice -
Schedonnardus,
2016-09-08, 16:03
- RIP touch of malice - unoudid, 2016-09-08, 16:23
- RIP touch of malice - stabbim, 2016-09-08, 18:04
- RIP touch of malice -
Claude Errera,
2016-09-08, 18:28
- Guess: Nerfed due to new raid -
Cody Miller,
2016-09-08, 21:32
- Nah, totally Challenge of Elders - ZackDark, 2016-09-08, 23:00
- Guess: Nerfed due to new raid -
stabbim,
2016-09-09, 01:23
- Guess: Nerfed due to new raid -
cheapLEY,
2016-09-09, 11:47
- Guess: Nerfed due to new raid - SonofMacPhisto, 2016-09-10, 13:25
- Guess: Nerfed due to new raid -
cheapLEY,
2016-09-09, 11:47
- Guess: Nerfed due to new raid -
Cody Miller,
2016-09-08, 21:32
- RIP touch of malice -
Kermit,
2016-09-08, 18:35
- WoL and a Sniper should still work. -
someotherguy,
2016-09-08, 19:03
- WoL and a Sniper should still work. -
Kermit,
2016-09-08, 21:44
- WoL and a Sniper should still work. -
someotherguy,
2016-09-08, 22:21
- Relics will fix it -
Durandal,
2016-09-09, 13:22
- Relics will fix it -
Kermit,
2016-09-09, 13:27
- Memory of Radagast - Durandal, 2016-09-09, 16:44
- Relics will fix it -
Kermit,
2016-09-09, 13:27
- Relics will fix it -
Durandal,
2016-09-09, 13:22
- WoL and a Sniper should still work. -
someotherguy,
2016-09-08, 22:21
- WoL and a Sniper should still work. -
Kermit,
2016-09-08, 21:44
- WoL and a Sniper should still work. -
someotherguy,
2016-09-08, 19:03
- Weapon Tuning Update -
Revenant1988,
2016-09-08, 14:35