Im still adamant that quote is a lie (Destiny)
by Harmanimus 
, Thursday, September 08, 2016, 19:58 (2798 days ago) @ Ragashingo
As I recall, the perk did nothing before the first retool. So what it was when it was first available was a generally above average mid-impact auto. Then they made change the perk to swap your archetypes without an ammo increase with proximity and changed stats/perk tree in a way that I don't remember being an overall benefit. Compared to Ace and Tlaloc both having dame improvements (ammo return on kill and root DPS increase respectively) the free Crowd Control wasn't as nice to have, requiring expenditure of ammo for that first kill. I just hope that the partial reload on kill is sufficient to keep you firing. Albeit I still think with the perk it should have been fixed to work as advertised, and just be a fire rate increase. There is so much competition for kills in close quarters I'm not even sure it would be that over powered, even if it's just the RoF increase with 4 instead of 2 impact.
Complete thread:
- Weapon Tuning Update -
bluerunner,
2016-09-08, 14:27
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- Weapon Tuning Update -
Revenant1988,
2016-09-08, 14:35
- Weapon Tuning Update -
Cody Miller,
2016-09-08, 14:59
- Weapon Tuning Update - Ragashingo, 2016-09-08, 15:28
- It needs to fire a slug, not shot. -
Revenant1988,
2016-09-08, 15:36
- But The Chaperone does that instead. - someotherguy, 2016-09-08, 15:37
- People who mastered it in trials were near unstoppable. - slycrel, 2016-09-08, 17:17
- Weapon Tuning Update -
CruelLEGACEY,
2016-09-08, 17:19
- I used UR on a Titan last IB - Durandal, 2016-09-08, 21:01
- I'm hoping typo -
someotherguy,
2016-09-08, 15:26
- I'm hoping typo - stabbim, 2016-09-08, 17:30
- Weapon Tuning Update - BeardFade, 2016-09-08, 17:26
- Weapon Tuning Update -
Cody Miller,
2016-09-08, 14:59
- Surplus buff. Maybe fixed firefly. - ProbablyLast, 2016-09-08, 15:00
- SURPLUS REIGNS SUPREME -
Funkmon,
2016-09-08, 15:03
- SURPLUS REIGNS SUPREME - stabbim, 2016-09-08, 17:36
- Welcome back!
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Kermit,
2016-09-08, 20:35
- *Waves* Good to see you buddy -
Pyromancy,
2016-09-09, 06:43
- Really happy with the sniper nerfs... -
Korny,
2016-09-08, 15:03
- Disappointed tho... -
slycrel,
2016-09-08, 17:10
- Disappointed tho... -
BeardFade,
2016-09-08, 17:28
- Disappointed tho... -
stabbim,
2016-09-08, 17:50
- Disappointed tho... -
BeardFade,
2016-09-08, 17:53
- Disappointed tho... -
unoudid,
2016-09-08, 17:59
- Good luck finding enough ammo :p -
ZackDark,
2016-09-08, 18:13
- Good luck finding enough ammo :p
- Disappointed tho... -
unoudid,
2016-09-08, 17:59
- It really, really helps -
ZackDark,
2016-09-08, 18:14
- It really, really helps - stabbim, 2016-09-08, 18:38
- Required? No. But far superior to the alternatives? 100% -
someotherguy,
2016-09-08, 18:32
- Required? No. But far superior to the alternatives? 100% -
stabbim,
2016-09-08, 18:38
- Required? No. But far superior to the alternatives? 100% -
someotherguy,
2016-09-08, 18:47
- Required? No. But far superior to the alternatives? 100% -
stabbim,
2016-09-08, 18:53
- Required? No. But far superior to the alternatives? 100% - someotherguy, 2016-09-08, 18:59
- Required? No. But far superior to the alternatives? 100% -
Kermit,
2016-09-09, 00:31
- Required? No. But far superior to the alternatives? 100% -
stabbim,
2016-09-09, 01:18
- Required? No. But far superior to the alternatives? 100% -
Kermit,
2016-09-09, 01:30
- Required? No. But far superior to the alternatives? 100% -
cheapLEY,
2016-09-09, 01:34
- Required? No. But far superior to the alternatives? 100% -
Kermit,
2016-09-09, 02:24
- Hahaha -
ZackDark,
2016-09-09, 09:21
- Yeah, that was a seriously chill bugging out -
kidtsunami,
2016-09-09, 11:53
- Yeah, that was a seriously chill bugging out -
Kermit,
2016-09-09, 13:21
- Yeah, that was a seriously chill bugging out -
stabbim,
2016-09-09, 13:51
- Yeah, that was a seriously chill bugging out -
Kermit,
2016-09-09, 14:25
- Kermit has all of you fooled -
marmot 1333,
2016-09-09, 14:48
- +1 -
someotherguy,
2016-09-09, 15:06
- Kermit has all of you fooled -
Kermit,
2016-09-09, 15:16
- Kermit has all of you fooled -
Claude Errera,
2016-09-09, 15:23
- No one can demonstrate the difficulty of that like me. -
Kermit,
2016-09-09, 15:30
- lol -
Claude Errera,
2016-09-09, 16:16
- lol
- No one can demonstrate the difficulty of that like me.
- Kermit has all of you fooled - SonofMacPhisto, 2016-09-09, 19:10
- Kermit has all of you fooled -
Claude Errera,
2016-09-09, 15:23
- +1
- Kermit has all of you fooled -
marmot 1333,
2016-09-09, 14:48
- Yeah, that was a seriously chill bugging out -
Kermit,
2016-09-09, 14:25
- Yeah, that was a seriously chill bugging out -
stabbim,
2016-09-09, 13:51
- Yeah, that was a seriously chill bugging out -
Kermit,
2016-09-09, 13:21
- Yeah, that was a seriously chill bugging out
- Hahaha -
ZackDark,
2016-09-09, 09:21
- What cheapLEY said ^ -
someotherguy,
2016-09-09, 06:29
- What cheapLEY said ^ - Kermit, 2016-09-09, 13:28
- What cheapLEY said ^ - stabbim, 2016-09-09, 13:49
- Required? No. But far superior to the alternatives? 100% -
Kermit,
2016-09-09, 02:24
- Required? No. But far superior to the alternatives? 100% -
cheapLEY,
2016-09-09, 01:34
- Required? No. But far superior to the alternatives? 100% -
Kermit,
2016-09-09, 01:30
- Required? No. But far superior to the alternatives? 100% -
stabbim,
2016-09-09, 01:18
- Required? No. But far superior to the alternatives? 100% -
stabbim,
2016-09-08, 18:53
- The key word here is "far" -
ZackDark,
2016-09-08, 18:47
- The key word here is "far" -
stabbim,
2016-09-08, 18:53
- Heh, KF really does bring out the worst in people, I guess -
ZackDark,
2016-09-08, 19:09
- No doubt -
stabbim,
2016-09-08, 19:11
- No doubt
- Heh, KF really does bring out the worst in people, I guess
- The key word here is "far" -
stabbim,
2016-09-08, 18:53
- Required? No. But far superior to the alternatives? 100% -
unoudid,
2016-09-08, 18:49
- Required? No. But far superior to the alternatives? 100% - stabbim, 2016-09-08, 18:58
- Required? No. But far superior to the alternatives? 100% -
someotherguy,
2016-09-08, 18:47
- Required? No. But far superior to the alternatives? 100% -
stabbim,
2016-09-08, 18:38
- Disappointed tho... -
BeardFade,
2016-09-08, 17:53
- Disappointed tho... -
stabbim,
2016-09-08, 17:50
- Disappointed tho... -
BeardFade,
2016-09-08, 17:28
- Disappointed tho... -
slycrel,
2016-09-08, 17:10
- Still no Gjallarhorn nerf details. -
ProbablyLast,
2016-09-08, 15:12
- Still no Gjallarhorn nerf details. -
Xenos,
2016-09-08, 15:22
- That would be cool - ProbablyLast, 2016-09-08, 15:23
- Still no Gjallarhorn nerf details. -
Xenos,
2016-09-08, 15:22
- Weapon Tuning Update -
Ragashingo,
2016-09-08, 15:23
- Weapon Tuning Update -
unoudid,
2016-09-08, 16:46
- Weapon Tuning Update -
Blackt1g3r,
2016-09-08, 17:15
- Weapon Tuning Update - Xenos, 2016-09-08, 17:28
- Weapon Tuning Update -
Blackt1g3r,
2016-09-08, 17:15
- Weapon Tuning Update - BeardFade, 2016-09-08, 17:29
- Weapon Tuning Update -
unoudid,
2016-09-08, 16:46
- Fabian Troll Strategy -
someotherguy,
2016-09-08, 15:29
- Fabian Troll Strategy -
Ragashingo,
2016-09-08, 15:32
- Fabian Troll Strategy -
stabbim,
2016-09-08, 18:02
- Fabian Troll Strategy -
bluerunner,
2016-09-08, 18:18
- Also a good point -
stabbim,
2016-09-08, 18:40
- Also a good point
- This - ZackDark, 2016-09-08, 18:22
- Fabian Troll Strategy -
Ragashingo,
2016-09-08, 18:40
- Fabian Troll Strategy -
stabbim,
2016-09-08, 18:46
- Fabian Troll Strategy - bluerunner, 2016-09-08, 19:18
- Fabian Troll Strategy -
Ragashingo,
2016-09-08, 19:20
- Im still adamant that quote is a lie -
someotherguy,
2016-09-08, 19:30
- Im still adamant that quote is a lie -
Ragashingo,
2016-09-08, 19:38
- Im still adamant that quote is a lie - Harmanimus, 2016-09-08, 19:58
- Im still adamant that quote is a lie -
stabbim,
2016-09-08, 20:05
- Im still adamant that quote is a lie -
someotherguy,
2016-09-08, 20:22
- Im still adamant that quote is a lie - stabbim, 2016-09-09, 01:20
- Im still adamant that quote is a lie -
someotherguy,
2016-09-08, 20:22
- Im still adamant that quote is a lie -
Ragashingo,
2016-09-08, 19:38
- Im still adamant that quote is a lie -
someotherguy,
2016-09-08, 19:30
- Fabian Troll Strategy -
stabbim,
2016-09-08, 18:46
- Fabian Troll Strategy -
bluerunner,
2016-09-08, 18:18
- Fabian Troll Strategy -
stabbim,
2016-09-08, 18:02
- Fabian Troll Strategy -
Ragashingo,
2016-09-08, 15:32
- Grenades and Horseshoes nerfed into oblivion? -
Ragashingo,
2016-09-08, 15:40
- Grenades and Horseshoes nerfed into oblivion? - Cody Miller, 2016-09-08, 15:50
- Truth doesn't change, it's what people use mostly anyhow. -
slycrel,
2016-09-08, 17:15
- RIP touch of malice -
Schedonnardus,
2016-09-08, 16:03
- RIP touch of malice - unoudid, 2016-09-08, 16:23
- RIP touch of malice - stabbim, 2016-09-08, 18:04
- RIP touch of malice -
Claude Errera,
2016-09-08, 18:28
- Guess: Nerfed due to new raid -
Cody Miller,
2016-09-08, 21:32
- Nah, totally Challenge of Elders -
ZackDark,
2016-09-08, 23:00
- Guess: Nerfed due to new raid -
stabbim,
2016-09-09, 01:23
- Guess: Nerfed due to new raid -
cheapLEY,
2016-09-09, 11:47
- Guess: Nerfed due to new raid - SonofMacPhisto, 2016-09-10, 13:25
- Guess: Nerfed due to new raid -
cheapLEY,
2016-09-09, 11:47
- Nah, totally Challenge of Elders
- Guess: Nerfed due to new raid -
Cody Miller,
2016-09-08, 21:32
- RIP touch of malice -
Kermit,
2016-09-08, 18:35
- WoL and a Sniper should still work. -
someotherguy,
2016-09-08, 19:03
- WoL and a Sniper should still work. -
Kermit,
2016-09-08, 21:44
- WoL and a Sniper should still work. -
someotherguy,
2016-09-08, 22:21
- Relics will fix it -
Durandal,
2016-09-09, 13:22
- Relics will fix it -
Kermit,
2016-09-09, 13:27
- Memory of Radagast - Durandal, 2016-09-09, 16:44
- Relics will fix it -
Kermit,
2016-09-09, 13:27
- Relics will fix it -
Durandal,
2016-09-09, 13:22
- WoL and a Sniper should still work. -
someotherguy,
2016-09-08, 22:21
- WoL and a Sniper should still work. -
Kermit,
2016-09-08, 21:44
- WoL and a Sniper should still work. -
someotherguy,
2016-09-08, 19:03
- Weapon Tuning Update -
Revenant1988,
2016-09-08, 14:35