How Letting you stay down there forever is bad design... (Destiny)
If this isn't obvious, my mind is blown.
Teams beating a raid for the first time would be confused as to whether or not that was the final encounter. Not being taken to orbit after a long while would imply that there is something more that they are missing.
How many teams started looking around for an extra chest on Atheon before they were sent to orbit? The "rules" (according to Cody) of the raid so far have been that once a boss is defeated, you figure out the next step of the raid. The other established rule of the game is that once you have entirely completed a mission, you are sent to Orbit. Outside of the Outbreak Prime chest (which takes seconds to get to and from, and which contains no items that take up Inventory space at all), there have so far been zero instances of anything to do or see after the death of the final raid boss, so the five minute timer has been ridiculously generous. Want to explore a single room? Five minutes should be way more than enough.
The game does have invisible timers, though (duration of Swords of Crota, Wolves, Taken forces), so it's not entirely unheard of. The invisible timer is poor design, but taking you to orbit is not (however, it could be improved IF you had a way to delay/cancel the Return to Orbit, or if you could accelerate the timer).
Everything aside, this is far too much discussion over a single, isolated case of people doing dumb stuff and being surprised by the consequences of their dumb actions. I say they all deserved it (except you Rowboat and Wilshire, you two kind of just got caught in the crossfire), and it was a hilarious and facepalm-inducing experience for the rest of us. MotW right there.
Complete thread:
- Why do you run out of time after beating the Raid? -
Avateur,
2016-10-09, 03:31
- Why do you run out of time after beating the Raid? - Morpheus, 2016-10-09, 03:59
- Why do you run out of time after beating the Raid? -
CrazedOne,
2016-10-09, 04:26
- Okay, I thought you were locked out of the chest. - UnrealCh13f, 2016-10-09, 04:31
- It was so close... -
rowboat,
2016-10-09, 04:41
- I want these videos to be in the Movie of the Week so much. -
INSANEdrive,
2016-10-09, 12:35
- +1 -
someotherguy,
2016-10-09, 12:57
- That is painfully funny. - unoudid, 2016-10-09, 13:44
- +1 -
someotherguy,
2016-10-09, 12:57
- I want these videos to be in the Movie of the Week so much. -
INSANEdrive,
2016-10-09, 12:35
- That's amusing. -
Funkmon,
2016-10-09, 04:57
- That's amusing. - CrazedOne, 2016-10-09, 05:54
- That's amusing. -
Avateur,
2016-10-09, 05:55
- That's amusing. -
someotherguy,
2016-10-09, 10:13
- 5 minute timer right? -
unoudid,
2016-10-09, 11:53
- I believe so. An absolute age. -
someotherguy,
2016-10-09, 12:10
- lol you guys don't even know -
petetheduck,
2016-10-09, 12:18
- Prove us wrong -
someotherguy,
2016-10-09, 12:42
- You just proved US right! -
petetheduck,
2016-10-09, 12:43
- I proved ALL THE THINGS! - INSANEdrive, 2016-10-09, 12:44
- Sorry, I couldn't resist - someotherguy, 2016-10-09, 12:49
- You just proved US right! -
petetheduck,
2016-10-09, 12:43
- Prove us wrong -
someotherguy,
2016-10-09, 12:42
- lol you guys don't even know -
petetheduck,
2016-10-09, 12:18
- I believe so. An absolute age. -
someotherguy,
2016-10-09, 12:10
- +1 - INSANEdrive, 2016-10-09, 12:39
- 5 minute timer right? -
unoudid,
2016-10-09, 11:53
- That's amusing. -
someotherguy,
2016-10-09, 10:13
- Rofl - ProbablyLast, 2016-10-09, 04:58
- It's not a new thing. -
someotherguy,
2016-10-09, 10:11
- It's not a new thing. -
petetheduck,
2016-10-09, 10:48
- Atheon Did -
unoudid,
2016-10-09, 11:54
- And that's good design? -
petetheduck,
2016-10-09, 12:16
- Who's defending Bungie? -
someotherguy,
2016-10-09, 12:34
- Who's defending Bungie? -
petetheduck,
2016-10-09, 12:42
- Not laying blame =/= Defending -
someotherguy,
2016-10-09, 12:46
- ^^^ This ^^^ - unoudid, 2016-10-09, 13:42
- Not laying blame =/= Defending -
someotherguy,
2016-10-09, 12:46
- Who's defending Bungie? -
petetheduck,
2016-10-09, 12:42
- And that's good design? -
Korny,
2016-10-09, 12:40
- And that's good design? - petetheduck, 2016-10-09, 12:43
- And that's good design? - someotherguy, 2016-10-09, 12:50
- And that's good design? - Cody Miller, 2016-10-09, 16:23
- So Good Design=Letting You Stay Down There Forever? -
Morpheus,
2016-10-09, 13:20
- So Good Design=Letting You Stay Down There Forever? -
someotherguy,
2016-10-09, 13:24
- So Good Design=Letting You Stay Down There Forever? -
Cody Miller,
2016-10-09, 16:50
- Again not strictly true - someotherguy, 2016-10-09, 17:20
- So Good Design=Letting You Stay Down There Forever? -
Cody Miller,
2016-10-09, 16:50
- Actually, yeah. Exploration and whatnot. - ProbablyLast, 2016-10-09, 14:55
- Yes, absolutely. -
SonofMacPhisto,
2016-10-10, 18:59
- How Letting you stay down there forever is bad design... -
Korny,
2016-10-10, 19:46
- How Letting you stay down there forever is bad design... -
Cody Miller,
2016-10-10, 19:59
- How Letting you stay down there forever is bad design... -
Korny,
2016-10-10, 20:24
- How Letting you stay down there forever is bad design... -
Cody Miller,
2016-10-10, 22:18
- How Letting you stay down there forever is bad design... -
Korny,
2016-10-10, 23:31
- How Letting you stay down there forever is bad design... -
petetheduck,
2016-10-10, 23:56
- How Letting you stay down there forever is bad design... - Kermit, 2016-10-11, 00:05
- How Letting you stay down there forever is bad design... - Avateur, 2016-10-11, 02:25
- How Letting you stay down there forever is bad design... - Cody Miller, 2016-10-11, 03:20
- How Letting you stay down there forever is bad design... -
petetheduck,
2016-10-10, 23:56
- How Letting you stay down there forever is bad design... -
Korny,
2016-10-10, 23:31
- How Letting you stay down there forever is bad design... -
Cody Miller,
2016-10-10, 22:18
- How Letting you stay down there forever is bad design... -
Korny,
2016-10-10, 20:24
- How Letting you stay down there forever is bad design... -
Cody Miller,
2016-10-10, 19:59
- How Letting you stay down there forever is bad design... -
Korny,
2016-10-10, 19:46
- So Good Design=Letting You Stay Down There Forever? -
someotherguy,
2016-10-09, 13:24
- Who's defending Bungie? -
someotherguy,
2016-10-09, 12:34
- And that's good design? -
petetheduck,
2016-10-09, 12:16
- Every single raid has - someotherguy, 2016-10-09, 12:11
- Atheon Did -
unoudid,
2016-10-09, 11:54
- It's not a new thing. -
Avateur,
2016-10-09, 17:01
- Fair enough - someotherguy, 2016-10-09, 17:24
- It's not a new thing. -
Kermit,
2016-10-09, 19:00
- It's not a new thing. -
Avateur,
2016-10-09, 19:05
- It's not a new thing. - Kermit, 2016-10-09, 19:09
- It's not a new thing. -
Claude Errera,
2016-10-09, 22:25
- It's not a new thing. - Avateur, 2016-10-09, 22:28
- That's an abnormally high number. -
ProbablyLast,
2016-10-09, 22:39
- That's an abnormally high number. -
petetheduck,
2016-10-09, 22:56
- That's an abnormally high number. -
Claude Errera,
2016-10-10, 02:04
- That's *still* an abnormally high number... -
Mid7night,
2016-10-10, 02:26
- That's *still* an abnormally high number... -
Claude Errera,
2016-10-10, 02:56
- That's *still* an abnormally high number... -
Kermit,
2016-10-10, 03:00
- That's *still* an abnormally high number... -
Claude Errera,
2016-10-10, 03:02
- That's *still* an abnormally high number... - Kermit, 2016-10-10, 12:35
- That's *still* an abnormally high number... -
Claude Errera,
2016-10-10, 03:02
- Had to fact check that statement - unoudid, 2016-10-10, 10:43
- That's *still* an abnormally high number... -
Kermit,
2016-10-10, 03:00
- That's *still* an abnormally high number... -
Claude Errera,
2016-10-10, 02:56
- That's an abnormally high number. -
Cody Miller,
2016-10-10, 02:35
- That's an abnormally high number. -
Avateur,
2016-10-10, 02:43
- That's an abnormally high number. - someotherguy, 2016-10-10, 09:25
- That's an abnormally high number. -
Avateur,
2016-10-10, 02:43
- That's *still* an abnormally high number... -
Mid7night,
2016-10-10, 02:26
- That's an abnormally high number. -
Claude Errera,
2016-10-10, 02:04
- Solid edit. - Funkmon, 2016-10-09, 23:05
- That's an abnormally high number. -
petetheduck,
2016-10-09, 22:56
- It's not a new thing. -
Avateur,
2016-10-09, 19:05
- Quick that might save someone's ass (re: filled inventory) -
ZackDark,
2016-10-09, 19:37
- Tower Ghost too -
someotherguy,
2016-10-09, 19:42
- Tower Ghost too -
Kermit,
2016-10-09, 20:05
- I feel your pain - someotherguy, 2016-10-09, 20:37
- DIM also has utilities to help you there -
ZackDark,
2016-10-09, 21:16
- Im in the process of doing that now - someotherguy, 2016-10-09, 21:25
- Tower Ghost too -
Kermit,
2016-10-09, 20:05
- Tower Ghost too -
someotherguy,
2016-10-09, 19:42
- It's not a new thing. -
petetheduck,
2016-10-09, 10:48
- Verily, I find this humorous! - Korny, 2016-10-09, 12:04
- I find this thread fascinating. -
Claude Errera,
2016-10-09, 16:50
- I find this thread fascinating. - Avateur, 2016-10-09, 17:05
- Thank you Zero!!! -
nico,
2016-10-10, 03:20
- Indeed. - Kermit, 2016-10-10, 10:52
- I read that in Zero's voice ;) -
Schedonnardus,
2016-10-10, 13:41
- I had a dream where I was in a restaurant and I heard a sigh -
Funkmon,
2016-10-10, 16:09
- I had a dream where I was in a restaurant and I heard a sigh -
Korny,
2016-10-10, 16:12
- I had a dream where I was in a restaurant and I heard a sigh -
bluerunner,
2016-10-10, 23:34
- I had a dream where I was in a restaurant and I heard a sigh - Zero, 2016-10-10, 23:45
- I had a dream where I was in a restaurant and I heard a sigh - Mid7night, 2016-10-11, 00:22
- I had a dream where I was in a restaurant and I heard a sigh -
bluerunner,
2016-10-10, 23:34
- I had a dream where I was in a restaurant and I heard a sigh -
Korny,
2016-10-10, 16:12
- I had a dream where I was in a restaurant and I heard a sigh -
Funkmon,
2016-10-10, 16:09
- Why do you run out of time after beating the Raid? -
SonofMacPhisto,
2016-10-10, 12:17
- Why do you run out of time after beating the Raid? -
Avateur,
2016-10-11, 02:29
- Why do you run out of time after beating the Raid? - SonofMacPhisto, 2016-10-11, 09:45
- Why do you run out of time after beating the Raid? -
Avateur,
2016-10-11, 02:29