I'd argue that it's among the worst things that 343 did... (Destiny)
yeah, all the variant weapons really threw me in 5. Plus when you have all the "pro" players they tend to get very mono-build. I think you really need to consider the casuals in the play as well. Like in Overwatch how some characters are OP for the masses, but never used in competitive mode because they are easily countered by a coordinated, skilled team.
Sniper rifles in some Destiny players hands are OP, but I can't hit the broad side of a barn. What do you do, should you buff them, nerf them?
You can make a game for streamers and top 1% of players, but that may not be a game the rest of us want to play.
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Beorn,
2017-02-08, 15:57
- They nerfed everything. -
unoudid,
2017-02-08, 15:59
- They nerfed everything. - nico, 2017-02-09, 03:17
- Some Raw Weapon Stats: - CyberKN, 2017-02-08, 16:16
- RIP shotguns, sidearm is the new Meta -
unoudid,
2017-02-08, 16:25
- Sidearm really will be the new Meta -
unoudid,
2017-02-08, 16:55
- NLB + Sidearm will continue to be a great load out :) -
BeardFade,
2017-02-08, 17:03
- NLB + Sidearm will continue to be a great load out :)
- Also: 20%damage buff in PvE, to make up for no crits -
CyberKN,
2017-02-08, 21:16
- Thx, was wondering about that -
stabbim,
2017-02-09, 03:38
- Thx, was wondering about that
- Just Got UR In A Drop. Sign? -
Morpheus,
2017-02-09, 15:25
- Correction - unoudid, 2017-02-09, 15:27
- Sidearm really will be the new Meta
- Pulse Changes: - unoudid, 2017-02-08, 16:31
- Low RoF Pulse rifles can two-tap again. -
CyberKN,
2017-02-08, 16:32
- Low RoF Pulse rifles can two-tap again. - Korny, 2017-02-08, 17:11
- Low RoF Pulse rifles can two-tap again. -
Claude Errera,
2017-02-08, 18:57
- Low RoF Pulse rifles can two-tap again. - stabbim, 2017-02-08, 19:09
- They never stopped being able to two shot, I don't think... -
Ragashingo,
2017-02-08, 19:24
- They never stopped being able to two shot, I don't think... -
stabbim,
2017-02-08, 19:38
- They never stopped being able to two shot, I don't think... -
CruelLEGACEY,
2017-02-08, 19:50
- The TTK is higher than it was, it's quicker to use others -
unoudid,
2017-02-08, 19:56
- They never stopped being able to two shot, I don't think... - stabbim, 2017-02-08, 20:10
- The TTK is higher than it was, it's quicker to use others
- They never stopped being able to two shot, I don't think... -
CruelLEGACEY,
2017-02-08, 19:50
- They never stopped being able to two shot, I don't think... -
stabbim,
2017-02-08, 19:38
- Changes to Assault Rifles -
unoudid,
2017-02-08, 16:34
- Time for field scout vanquisher to come out of the vault! -
Funkmon,
2017-02-08, 18:28
- LOL. Forgot they nerfed Field Scout. Nevermind. -
Funkmon,
2017-02-08, 18:28
- LOL. Forgot they nerfed Field Scout. Nevermind.
- Time for field scout vanquisher to come out of the vault!
- Changes to Hand Cannons - unoudid, 2017-02-08, 16:40
- Special ammo is lost upon death (like heavy) -
CyberKN,
2017-02-08, 16:41
- Includes Elimination -
BeardFade,
2017-02-08, 16:44
- Includes Elimination - Cody Miller, 2017-02-08, 18:41
- Clarification: Both teams lose it. - CyberKN, 2017-02-08, 21:47
- 60 second respawn timer on special crates -
unoudid,
2017-02-08, 16:51
- Special ammo is lost upon death (like heavy) -
squidnh3,
2017-02-08, 17:07
- They always nerf fusions TBH -
unoudid,
2017-02-08, 17:09
- Special ammo is lost upon death (like heavy) - bluerunner, 2017-02-08, 19:16
- They always nerf fusions TBH
- Special ammo is lost upon death (like heavy) -
Robot Chickens,
2017-02-08, 17:15
- Special ammo is lost upon death (like heavy) - Kahzgul, 2017-02-09, 06:42
- Bad choice -
Cody Miller,
2017-02-08, 17:59
- Bad choice -
squidnh3,
2017-02-08, 18:18
- Bad choice -
Cody Miller,
2017-02-08, 18:37
- Not just the crucible, the entire game. -
ProbablyLast,
2017-02-08, 18:43
- Not just the crucible, the entire game. -
CruelLEGACEY,
2017-02-08, 22:18
- Truth. =) -
slycrel,
2017-02-09, 13:49
- Not just the crucible, the entire game. - stabbim, 2017-02-09, 15:22
- Truth. =)
- Not just the crucible, the entire game. -
CruelLEGACEY,
2017-02-08, 22:18
- I agree. The future looks bleak. - Funkmon, 2017-02-08, 22:17
- Not just the crucible, the entire game. -
ProbablyLast,
2017-02-08, 18:43
- Bad choice -
Cody Miller,
2017-02-08, 18:37
- Bad choice - ShadowDancing, 2017-02-08, 21:06
- Bad choice -
squidnh3,
2017-02-08, 18:18
- Oh Dear Lord. -
Morpheus,
2017-02-08, 18:18
- Rescue mag is now god tier -
Kahzgul,
2017-02-09, 06:42
- Includes Elimination -
BeardFade,
2017-02-08, 16:44
- Hunter Changes -
unoudid,
2017-02-08, 16:46
- Hunter Changes - unoudid, 2017-02-08, 16:59
- Hunter Changes - Cody Miller, 2017-02-08, 18:31
- Warlock Changes: -
unoudid,
2017-02-08, 16:47
- Unclear On What That Means. -
Morpheus,
2017-02-08, 18:19
- Unclear On What That Means. -
unoudid,
2017-02-08, 18:49
- Unclear On What That Means. -
bluerunner,
2017-02-08, 19:20
- Unclear On What That Means. -
unoudid,
2017-02-08, 19:32
- Unclear On What That Means. - BeardFade, 2017-02-08, 19:54
- Unclear On What That Means. -
unoudid,
2017-02-08, 19:32
- Unclear On What That Means. -
bluerunner,
2017-02-08, 19:20
- Unclear On What That Means. -
unoudid,
2017-02-08, 18:49
- Unclear On What That Means.
- Titan Changes: -
unoudid,
2017-02-08, 16:48
- Titan Changes: - BeardFade, 2017-02-08, 19:55
- BNG Staff looks like they are really bad at PvP -
unoudid,
2017-02-08, 16:53
- Deej was pretty bad for the DBO Bungie Bounty -
BeardFade,
2017-02-08, 16:55
- This is painful to watch -
unoudid,
2017-02-08, 16:57
- Ok... Watching them play... -
BeardFade,
2017-02-08, 17:00
- Ok... Watching them play... -
Robot Chickens,
2017-02-08, 17:06
- Ok... Watching them play... - unoudid, 2017-02-08, 17:10
- play-testing isn't skill based -
kidtsunami,
2017-02-08, 17:41
- There are some - Beorn, 2017-02-08, 18:05
- One GREAT thing 343 did... -
breitzen,
2017-02-09, 13:53
- I'd argue that it's among the worst things that 343 did... -
Korny,
2017-02-09, 14:37
- I'd argue that it's among the worst things that 343 did... -
Cody Miller,
2017-02-09, 14:59
- I'd argue that it's among the worst things that 343 did... - CruelLEGACEY, 2017-02-09, 17:06
- I feel very strongly that you're wrong - kidtsunami, 2017-02-09, 15:16
- I'd argue that it's among the worst things that 343 did... - Durandal, 2017-02-09, 18:03
- It's definitely not one of my favourite things. - Funkmon, 2017-02-09, 18:04
- I'd argue that it's among the worst things that 343 did... - breitzen, 2017-02-10, 19:42
- I'd argue that it's among the worst things that 343 did... -
Cody Miller,
2017-02-09, 14:59
- I'd argue that it's among the worst things that 343 did... -
Korny,
2017-02-09, 14:37
- They are vastly different skill sets (with some overlap) -
CruelLEGACEY,
2017-02-08, 20:22
- They are vastly different skill sets (with some overlap) - stabbim, 2017-02-08, 20:59
- They are vastly different skill sets (with some overlap) -
Cody Miller,
2017-02-08, 21:05
- They are vastly different skill sets (with some overlap) - CruelLEGACEY, 2017-02-08, 22:06
- They are vastly different skill sets (with some overlap) -
Blackt1g3r,
2017-02-09, 12:15
- They are vastly different skill sets (with some overlap) -
Cody Miller,
2017-02-09, 13:21
- They are vastly different skill sets (with some overlap) -
MacAddictXIV,
2017-02-09, 13:24
- They are vastly different skill sets (with some overlap) -
Cody Miller,
2017-02-09, 14:10
- They are vastly different skill sets (with some overlap) -
MacAddictXIV,
2017-02-09, 15:15
- They are vastly different skill sets (with some overlap) -
Cody Miller,
2017-02-09, 15:20
- They are vastly different skill sets (with some overlap) -
MacAddictXIV,
2017-02-09, 16:31
- I'm with Cody here - Kahzgul, 2017-02-11, 06:48
- They are vastly different skill sets (with some overlap) -
MacAddictXIV,
2017-02-09, 16:31
- They are vastly different skill sets (with some overlap) -
Cody Miller,
2017-02-09, 15:20
- They are vastly different skill sets (with some overlap) -
MacAddictXIV,
2017-02-09, 15:15
- They are vastly different skill sets (with some overlap) -
Cody Miller,
2017-02-09, 14:10
- They are vastly different skill sets (with some overlap) - CruelLEGACEY, 2017-02-09, 13:43
- They are vastly different skill sets (with some overlap) -
MacAddictXIV,
2017-02-09, 13:24
- Absolutely. - CruelLEGACEY, 2017-02-09, 13:34
- They are vastly different skill sets (with some overlap) -
Cody Miller,
2017-02-09, 13:21
- I've done sandbox FPS PvP balances before, AMA -
Kahzgul,
2017-02-09, 17:10
- I've done sandbox FPS PvP balances before, AMA -
Cody Miller,
2017-02-09, 17:24
- I've done sandbox FPS PvP balances before, AMA -
Durandal,
2017-02-09, 18:05
- I've done sandbox FPS PvP balances before, AMA -
CruelLEGACEY,
2017-02-09, 19:34
- I've done sandbox FPS PvP balances before, AMA - Kahzgul, 2017-02-11, 06:37
- I've done sandbox FPS PvP balances before, AMA -
CruelLEGACEY,
2017-02-09, 19:34
- I've done sandbox FPS PvP balances before, AMA - Kahzgul, 2017-02-11, 05:59
- I've done sandbox FPS PvP balances before, AMA -
Durandal,
2017-02-09, 18:05
- If I am an expert noob, can I have a job? -
Funkmon,
2017-02-09, 17:58
- If I am an expert noob, can I have a job? - Kahzgul, 2017-02-11, 06:09
- I believe you are "in error where the truth is involved." -
Ragashingo,
2017-02-09, 17:59
- I believe speculation is exactly that. - Kahzgul, 2017-02-11, 06:24
- I've done sandbox FPS PvP balances before, AMA -
Cody Miller,
2017-02-09, 17:24
- Ok... Watching them play... -
Robot Chickens,
2017-02-08, 17:06
- This is painful to watch
- Deej was pretty bad for the DBO Bungie Bounty -
BeardFade,
2017-02-08, 16:55
- Exotic changes: (not finished) - unoudid, 2017-02-08, 16:59
- Artifact's untouched -
unoudid,
2017-02-08, 17:00
- Artifact's untouched -
squidnh3,
2017-02-08, 17:21
- Maybe teams with sunsingers? -
kidtsunami,
2017-02-08, 17:41
- Artifact's untouched -
unoudid,
2017-02-08, 17:43
- Artifact's untouched -
squidnh3,
2017-02-08, 18:17
- Artifact's untouched -
unoudid,
2017-02-08, 19:07
- Artifact's untouched - ShadowDancing, 2017-02-08, 21:12
- Artifact's untouched -
unoudid,
2017-02-08, 19:07
- Artifact's untouched -
squidnh3,
2017-02-08, 18:17
- Artifact's untouched - Funkmon, 2017-02-08, 22:22
- Maybe teams with sunsingers?
- Artifact's untouched -
squidnh3,
2017-02-08, 17:21
- Lol. -
ProbablyLast,
2017-02-08, 18:22
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