I find it hard to be annoyed by most of them (Destiny)
It's not like they're being asshats, they're just expressing opinions and (at least the vast majority here) quite in a civil way.
The majority of every thread from yesterday is filled with gushing positives and a few worries. The pre-order thread is about the only place (aside from this one) with negativity. The negativity, really no matter how it's presented, is generally always met with dismissive, rude, mocking, or name-calling posts. It snowballs from there as people (including myself) get defensive. People seem to want to discuss if they're in agreement with positive things only.
I think we're all a little worried. It's a new IP. None of us (as far as I know) have played it. Some of us have been around longer, have seen numerous new IPs from Bungie, and are less worried than others. But even among those there's a fear that we won't like it. I've heard admins here express it. (One today, another years ago.) If, in the heat of the moment, I have mocked, dismissed or what have you then I apologize, but some reactions (and conclusions drawn) seem unreasonable, especially at this stage.
If you express how super excited you are, and here, take my money now and oh my gosh Destiny is the best game ever (even though all you've seen are a few things, never touched it yourself, but your positives are wildly overblown), that's totally cool. God forbid someone gets emotional or passionate in a dissenting way, and all of a sudden we get "So much pessimism on the forums." or "Don't be such a debbie downer!"
I actually haven't noticed that much over-the-top gushing. I have seen some over-the-top skepticism. But you're right--we've only seen few things, and on whichever side we fall, we're guessing. (Full disclosure--my excitement thus far is fueled by my history with Bungie more so than what I've seen of Destiny. I don't know if Destiny will be a game I enjoy as much as other Bungie games. I have high hopes, though. The only thing I'm sure about is that I'm going to love looking at it.)
Great way to be nice to your fellow forum goers, even if they get a bit hyped up and emotional in a non-positive regard. I find it ridiculous that yakaman even felt the need to have to say, "At the risk of being ridiculed and and vilified" and "I respect this forum and its users greatly, and I hesitate to express my sentiments here". It's wonderful that there's this respect and love, but it's damned unfortunate that there's such fear of reprisal for a dissenting opinion.
A little throat-clearing might be in order on a FAN site. Perhaps not that much throat-clearing. I like to think ridicule and vilification is less common here (or milder at least) than most places on the internet, but what yakaman did most effectively to garner a positive reaction from everyone was give specifics and not make premature pronouncements. His was actually one of my favorite posts from this week.
This site is built for fans. I hope that constructive criticism is welcome. Yeah, fan boys and girls gonna disagree, but bungie.org forums have never lacked thoughtful posts, and appreciative responses to them. Let's hope Destiny is good enough that we continue to have our fandom in common in September. If not, well, I've made some friends, and I've got other interests to occupy myself with.
Complete thread:
- Prediction on Destiny -
Reconcilliation,
2014-04-28, 23:43
- I hope not. - Ragashingo, 2014-04-28, 23:45
- Prediction on Destiny -
Hedge,
2014-04-29, 00:15
- I approve of this post. - ZackDark, 2014-04-29, 06:47
- +1 - PackLeader89, 2014-04-29, 09:07
- DigitalFoundry Face-Off Predictions - uberfoop, 2014-04-29, 00:48
- Prediction on Destiny - hunt3r, 2014-04-29, 02:43
- 100% TRUE PREDICTION. DO NOT STEAL. -
Bones,
2014-04-29, 04:42
- +1 - PackLeader89, 2014-04-29, 09:08
- Prediction on Destiny - Zeouterlimits, 2014-04-29, 05:54
- Hitherforth, I name ye Doomsayer. - Leviathan, 2014-04-29, 05:57
- Prediction on Destiny -
Avateur,
2014-04-29, 06:47
- Also... -
MrPadraig08,
2014-04-29, 09:10
- Also... -
Xenos,
2014-04-29, 09:17
- Let the Shrike v Sparrow war commence -
MrPadraig08,
2014-04-29, 09:20
- I like sparrow. -
Kermit,
2014-04-29, 14:07
- I like sparrow. - SonofMacPhisto, 2014-04-29, 14:12
- I like turtles. - Doooskey, 2014-04-29, 14:16
- Shrike rhymes with strike -
MrPadraig08,
2014-04-30, 22:50
- and Pike! - Beorn, 2014-04-30, 23:15
- Let the Shrike v Sparrow war commence -
Xenos,
2014-04-30, 18:43
- :O -
MrPadraig08,
2014-04-30, 22:49
- :O - Xenos, 2014-05-01, 08:37
- That's what she said! - scarab, 2014-05-03, 00:35
- :O -
MrPadraig08,
2014-04-30, 22:49
- I like sparrow. -
Kermit,
2014-04-29, 14:07
- Let the Shrike v Sparrow war commence -
MrPadraig08,
2014-04-29, 09:20
- Also... -
Xenos,
2014-04-29, 09:17
- Also... -
MrPadraig08,
2014-04-29, 09:10
- Something Something Chicken Egg Something - INSANEdrive, 2014-04-29, 07:09
- Prediction on Destiny - serpx, 2014-04-29, 07:31
- Fear for Destiny -
yakaman,
2014-04-29, 07:35
- Fear for Destiny -
Leviathan,
2014-04-29, 07:45
- Fear for Destiny -
Ragashingo,
2014-04-29, 08:30
- Fear for Destiny - Leviathan, 2014-04-29, 08:38
- Fear for Destiny - SonofMacPhisto, 2014-04-29, 08:41
- Fear for Destiny -
Xenos,
2014-04-29, 09:16
- Fear for Destiny -
Ragashingo,
2014-04-29, 09:49
- +1 - Xenos, 2014-04-29, 09:55
- Fear for Destiny -
Kermit,
2014-04-29, 11:50
- There's nothing original in the cosmos. - SonofMacPhisto, 2014-04-29, 14:01
- Fear for Destiny -
Schedonnardus,
2014-04-29, 14:32
- Watch out! -
Ragashingo,
2014-04-29, 14:48
- Comb the Desert! -
INSANEdrive,
2014-04-29, 14:52
- I discovered the other day... *IMG* -
Leviathan,
2014-04-29, 15:06
- Woah. :O - INSANEdrive, 2014-04-29, 15:10
- That is... Illogical. - Ragashingo, 2014-04-29, 15:14
- I discovered the other day... *IMG* -
Leviathan,
2014-04-29, 15:06
- Comb the Desert! -
INSANEdrive,
2014-04-29, 14:52
- Watch out! -
Ragashingo,
2014-04-29, 14:48
- Fear for Destiny -
Fuertisimo,
2014-04-29, 12:44
- Fear for Destiny - Ragashingo, 2014-04-29, 12:50
- Fear for Destiny - Xenos, 2014-04-29, 12:55
- Fear for Destiny -
Ragashingo,
2014-04-29, 09:49
- Fear for Destiny -
SigbiasSilva,
2014-04-29, 14:10
- Fear for Destiny - Kermit, 2014-04-29, 14:22
- Fear for Destiny -
Ragashingo,
2014-04-29, 08:30
- That's how you do it, folks. - Kermit, 2014-04-29, 09:38
- Fear for Destiny - Reconcilliation, 2014-05-02, 23:58
- Fear for Destiny -
Leviathan,
2014-04-29, 07:45
- No Disrespect - PackLeader89, 2014-04-29, 09:02
- "Reconcilliation" spelled with one "L" -
PackLeader89,
2014-04-29, 09:12
- I'm the evil twin with two L's - Reconcilliation, 2014-05-03, 00:17
- Prediction on Destiny - ridum, 2014-04-29, 13:45
- Prediction? -
Decom,
2014-04-29, 15:24
- Prediction? -
Xenos,
2014-04-29, 15:36
- Prediction? -
Decom,
2014-04-29, 16:49
- ??????? -
Kermit,
2014-04-29, 18:09
- ??????? -
Decom,
2014-04-29, 18:38
- PR vs What people really think -
Reconcilliation,
2014-04-29, 22:26
- PR vs What people really think - Xenos, 2014-04-29, 22:44
- PR vs What people really think -
Hedge,
2014-04-29, 22:54
- PR vs What people really think - SonofMacPhisto, 2014-04-30, 05:45
- PR vs What people really think -
Ragashingo,
2014-04-29, 23:03
- PR vs What people really think -
Reconcilliation,
2014-05-02, 23:09
- PR vs What people really think -
Xenos,
2014-05-02, 23:40
- PR vs What people really think - Reconcilliation, 2014-05-03, 00:11
- PR vs What people really think -
Xenos,
2014-05-02, 23:40
- PR vs What people really think -
Reconcilliation,
2014-05-02, 23:09
- PR vs What people really think -
Kermit,
2014-04-30, 08:58
- PR vs What people really think -
Xenos,
2014-04-30, 09:04
- PR vs What people really think - SonofMacPhisto, 2014-04-30, 09:12
- PR vs What people really think - Reconcilliation, 2014-05-02, 23:15
- PR vs What people really think -
Xenos,
2014-04-30, 09:04
- PR vs What people really think -
Cody Miller,
2014-04-30, 10:01
- PR vs What people really think -
ZackDark,
2014-04-30, 17:20
- PR vs What people really think -
Cody Miller,
2014-05-10, 16:53
- PR vs What people really think - INSANEdrive, 2014-05-10, 18:20
- Nah -
ZackDark,
2014-05-10, 20:36
- Nah -
Cody Miller,
2014-05-10, 20:45
- Ah, I forgot the option to downgrade there - ZackDark, 2014-05-10, 21:22
- Nah -
Cody Miller,
2014-05-10, 20:45
- PR vs What people really think -
Cody Miller,
2014-05-10, 16:53
- PR vs What people really think - Reconcilliation, 2014-05-02, 23:20
- PR vs What people really think -
ZackDark,
2014-04-30, 17:20
- PR vs What people really think -
Reconcilliation,
2014-04-29, 22:26
- ??????? -
Hedge,
2014-04-29, 18:44
- Why do I love this post so much? -
INSANEdrive,
2014-04-29, 19:05
- 'cause Hedge - Kermit, 2014-04-29, 19:08
- Why do I love this post so much? -
INSANEdrive,
2014-04-29, 19:05
- ??????? -
Decom,
2014-04-29, 18:38
- What... - PackLeader89, 2014-04-30, 10:29
- ??????? -
Kermit,
2014-04-29, 18:09
- Prediction? -
Decom,
2014-04-29, 16:49
- Prediction? -
Xenos,
2014-04-29, 15:36
- So much pessimism on the forums. -
Xenos,
2014-04-29, 16:57
- Not as much as it seems. -
Leviathan,
2014-04-29, 17:34
- I find it hard to be annoyed by most of them -
ZackDark,
2014-04-29, 17:45
- I find it hard to be annoyed by most of them -
Avateur,
2014-04-29, 17:52
- Yeah, I feel that too - ZackDark, 2014-04-29, 18:18
- I find it hard to be annoyed by most of them -
Leviathan,
2014-04-29, 18:30
- I find it hard to be annoyed by most of them -
Avateur,
2014-04-29, 18:40
- I find it hard to be annoyed by most of them -
Ragashingo,
2014-04-29, 18:54
- I find it hard to be annoyed by most of them -
Avateur,
2014-04-29, 19:43
- I find it hard to be annoyed by most of them - Ragashingo, 2014-04-29, 20:01
- I find it hard to be annoyed by most of them -
Avateur,
2014-04-29, 19:43
- I find it hard to be annoyed by most of them -
Leviathan,
2014-04-29, 18:58
- I find it hard to be annoyed by most of them -
Avateur,
2014-04-29, 20:09
- I find it hard to be annoyed by most of them - Leviathan, 2014-04-29, 20:43
- I find it hard to be annoyed by most of them -
Avateur,
2014-04-29, 20:09
- I find it hard to be annoyed by most of them -
Ragashingo,
2014-04-29, 18:54
- I find it hard to be annoyed by most of them -
Avateur,
2014-04-29, 18:40
- I find it hard to be annoyed by most of them - Kermit, 2014-04-29, 19:03
- I find it hard to be annoyed by most of them - Zeouterlimits, 2014-04-30, 06:07
- I find it hard to be annoyed by most of them - Leviathan, 2014-04-29, 18:11
- I find it hard to be annoyed by most of them -
Avateur,
2014-04-29, 17:52
- I find it hard to be annoyed by most of them -
ZackDark,
2014-04-29, 17:45
- Then I shall bring some Order to the Sun. -
INSANEdrive,
2014-04-29, 17:52
- Even better… - Beorn, 2014-04-29, 18:22
- Then I shall bring some Order to the Sun. - Xenos, 2014-04-30, 09:10
- Awesome responses to what was probably a bad post :) - Xenos, 2014-04-29, 22:37
- So much pessimism on the forums. -
yakaman,
2014-04-30, 09:26
- So much pessimism on the forums. -
Xenos,
2014-04-30, 10:04
- So much pessimism on the forums. - Avateur, 2014-04-30, 19:08
- So much pessimism on the forums. -
Xenos,
2014-04-30, 10:04
- Not as much as it seems. -
Leviathan,
2014-04-29, 17:34