That's because you play as it was designed. (Destiny)
If the impressions you've given, before just now, were received on a piece of mine, I'd think you hated it so much that you were simply not the right audience. If you had given me the whole picture, I would know how to improve the piece so much more and I could recognize the successes and build on them. :)
I am just telling you how it works, at least here in Hollywood. Yes, you will occasionally hear and get comments on how something is amazing. However, the vast majority of your time is spent hearing criticisms and critiques. Time is money, and people tend to be very direct. I don't know in what capacity you create art commercially, but I can imagine illustrators would receive the same type of feedback. You'd turn in a drawing, then you hear what's wrong with it so it can be fixed. We all want to make the best thing possible, and nothing is perfect the first time. We hear why it's not perfect, and just keep making it better until it's either as perfect as we can possibly make it or we run out of money.
Yeah, my experience with freelance illustration has been every different. I've had a few jobs like you describe, and while some of them paid well, they turned out some of the worst products and led nowhere. If all Hollywood is all like that, then it's probably good I'm not there. :)
Regardless, the DBO Forum ISN'T a high-pace commercial Hollywood agency or something. It's supposed to be a fun, inviting place for people to hang out, discuss, and find friends to play with. All those things can be better accomplished if we understand each other better.
Complete thread:
- Pretty scathing opinion piece on Polygon -
Speedracer513,
2014-12-15, 10:23
- Radiant Materials -
Cody Miller,
2014-12-15, 10:34
- Radiant Materials -
EffortlessFury,
2014-12-15, 10:36
- Radiant Materials -
Cody Miller,
2014-12-15, 10:40
- Radiant Materials -
Speedracer513,
2014-12-15, 10:57
- Radiant Materials - stabbim, 2014-12-15, 12:37
- Radiant Materials -
Speedracer513,
2014-12-15, 10:57
- Radiant Materials -
Cody Miller,
2014-12-15, 10:40
- Radiant Materials -
Blackt1g3r,
2014-12-15, 10:46
- Radiant Materials -
Cody Miller,
2014-12-15, 10:48
- Radiant Materials -
petetheduck,
2014-12-15, 11:28
- I feel no attachment to my gear - kidtsunami, 2014-12-15, 11:33
- Radiant Materials -
CruelLEGACEY,
2014-12-15, 12:07
- Radiant Materials -
petetheduck,
2014-12-15, 12:45
- Radiant Materials - Cody Miller, 2014-12-15, 12:49
- Radiant Materials -
petetheduck,
2014-12-15, 12:45
- Radiant Materials -
Leviathan,
2014-12-15, 12:05
- Radiant Materials -
Cody Miller,
2014-12-15, 12:12
- Radiant Materials -
Leviathan,
2014-12-15, 12:15
- Radiant Materials -
Cody Miller,
2014-12-15, 12:19
- Radiant Materials -
Leviathan,
2014-12-15, 12:24
- Radiant Materials -
stabbim,
2014-12-15, 12:42
- Radiant Materials -
Ragashingo,
2014-12-15, 12:48
- Radiant Materials -
Leviathan,
2014-12-15, 12:58
- Radiant Materials - Cody Miller, 2014-12-15, 13:03
- Radiant Materials -
Cody Miller,
2014-12-15, 12:59
- Radiant Materials -
ZackDark,
2014-12-15, 13:02
- Radiant Materials -
Cody Miller,
2014-12-15, 13:04
- +1, tbh - ZackDark, 2014-12-15, 13:07
- Radiant Materials -
Cody Miller,
2014-12-15, 13:04
- Radiant Materials -
ZackDark,
2014-12-15, 13:02
- Radiant Materials -
Leviathan,
2014-12-15, 12:58
- Radiant Materials -
Ragashingo,
2014-12-15, 12:48
- Radiant Materials -
stabbim,
2014-12-15, 12:42
- Radiant Materials -
Leviathan,
2014-12-15, 12:24
- Radiant Materials -
Cody Miller,
2014-12-15, 12:19
- Radiant Materials -
Leviathan,
2014-12-15, 12:15
- That's because you play as it was designed. -
Revenant1988,
2014-12-15, 12:49
- That's because you play as it was designed. -
Cody Miller,
2014-12-15, 12:53
- That's because you play as it was designed. -
Spec ops Grunt,
2014-12-15, 13:15
- Either way, that's a lot - Revenant1988, 2014-12-15, 13:20
- That's because you play as it was designed. -
Cody Miller,
2014-12-15, 13:59
- Does psn track play time? That could corroborate with b.net - Spec ops Grunt, 2014-12-15, 14:18
- That's because you play as it was designed. -
RC,
2014-12-15, 14:39
- Only 1 more than Levi -
Cody Miller,
2014-12-15, 14:43
- Only 1 more than Levi - Leviathan, 2014-12-15, 14:57
- Only 1 more than Levi -
Cody Miller,
2014-12-15, 14:43
- That's because you play as it was designed. -
Leviathan,
2014-12-15, 13:28
- You never will understand because you don't listen -
scarab,
2014-12-15, 13:34
- You never will understand because you don't listen -
Leviathan,
2014-12-15, 13:52
- You never will understand because you don't listen -
Cody Miller,
2014-12-15, 13:55
- Echo Chamber, guys - iconicbanana, 2014-12-15, 13:57
- You never will understand because you don't listen - Leviathan, 2014-12-15, 14:11
- You've been asking that question for the last 3 months -
scarab,
2014-12-15, 14:08
- You've been asking that question for the last 3 months -
Leviathan,
2014-12-15, 14:31
- You've been asking that question for the last 3 months - Spec ops Grunt, 2014-12-15, 14:38
- asking the same question repeatedly and apparently -
scarab,
2014-12-15, 15:03
- asking the same question repeatedly and apparently -
Leviathan,
2014-12-15, 15:48
- Don't listen to him. - ckamp, 2014-12-19, 08:38
- asking the same question repeatedly and apparently -
Claude Errera,
2014-12-19, 08:04
- asking the same question repeatedly and apparently -
scarab,
2014-12-19, 10:21
- asking the same question repeatedly and apparently -
Claude Errera,
2014-12-19, 10:51
- asking the same question repeatedly and apparently - Cody Miller, 2014-12-19, 10:56
- Exploring -
Leviathan,
2014-12-19, 14:31
- That's a big post :-) - scarab, 2014-12-21, 02:22
- Exploring - scarab, 2014-12-21, 04:29
- asking the same question repeatedly and apparently -
Claude Errera,
2014-12-19, 10:51
- asking the same question repeatedly and apparently -
scarab,
2014-12-19, 10:21
- asking the same question repeatedly and apparently -
Leviathan,
2014-12-15, 15:48
- You've been asking that question for the last 3 months -
Leviathan,
2014-12-15, 14:31
- You never will understand because you don't listen -
Cody Miller,
2014-12-15, 13:55
- You never will understand because you don't listen -
Leviathan,
2014-12-15, 13:52
- That's because you play as it was designed. -
Cody Miller,
2014-12-15, 13:43
- That's because you play as it was designed. -
Leviathan,
2014-12-15, 14:08
- That's because you play as it was designed. -
Cody Miller,
2014-12-15, 14:15
- That's because you play as it was designed. -
Leviathan,
2014-12-15, 14:44
- That's because you play as it was designed. -
Cody Miller,
2014-12-15, 14:52
- That's because you play as it was designed. -
Leviathan,
2014-12-15, 15:52
- That's because you play as it was designed. -
Cody Miller,
2014-12-15, 15:59
- That's because you play as it was designed. -
Speedracer513,
2014-12-15, 16:03
- That's because you play as it was designed. - Leviathan, 2014-12-15, 16:10
- That's because you play as it was designed. - Leviathan, 2014-12-15, 16:08
- That's because you play as it was designed. -
Speedracer513,
2014-12-15, 16:03
- That's because you play as it was designed. -
Cody Miller,
2014-12-15, 15:59
- That's because you play as it was designed. - Claude Errera, 2014-12-19, 08:09
- That's because you play as it was designed. -
Leviathan,
2014-12-15, 15:52
- That's because you play as it was designed. -
Cody Miller,
2014-12-15, 14:52
- That's because you play as it was designed. -
Leviathan,
2014-12-15, 14:44
- That's because you play as it was designed. -
Cody Miller,
2014-12-15, 14:15
- That's because you play as it was designed. -
Leviathan,
2014-12-15, 14:08
- That's because you play as it was designed. -
Revenant1988,
2014-12-15, 13:46
- That's because you play as it was designed. -
Cody Miller,
2014-12-15, 13:48
- That's because you play as it was designed. -
Revenant1988,
2014-12-15, 13:55
- I *actually* LOLd at this - Speedracer513, 2014-12-15, 13:57
- That's because you play as it was designed. -
Revenant1988,
2014-12-15, 13:55
- That's because you play as it was designed. -
Cody Miller,
2014-12-15, 13:48
- You never will understand because you don't listen -
scarab,
2014-12-15, 13:34
- That's because you play as it was designed. - CruelLEGACEY, 2014-12-15, 13:56
- That's because you play as it was designed. -
Spec ops Grunt,
2014-12-15, 13:15
- games with investment systems are NOT designed to be -
scarab,
2014-12-15, 14:19
- games with investment systems are NOT designed to be -
Claude Errera,
2014-12-19, 08:23
- games with investment systems are NOT designed to be -
Cody Miller,
2014-12-19, 10:46
- games with investment systems are NOT designed to be -
Claude Errera,
2014-12-19, 11:00
- games with investment systems are NOT designed to be -
Cody Miller,
2014-12-19, 11:10
- games with investment systems are NOT designed to be - Claude Errera, 2014-12-19, 11:12
- games with investment systems are NOT designed to be -
Cody Miller,
2014-12-19, 11:10
- games with investment systems are NOT designed to be -
Claude Errera,
2014-12-19, 11:00
- Doing things that you don't want to do in a game is a grind -
scarab,
2014-12-19, 11:00
- Doing things that you don't want to do in a game is a grind -
Claude Errera,
2014-12-19, 11:07
- Doing things that you don't want to do in a game is a grind -
Cody Miller,
2014-12-19, 11:12
- Doing things that you don't want to do in a game is a grind -
Claude Errera,
2014-12-19, 11:26
- Doing things that you don't want to do in a game is a grind - dogcow, 2014-12-19, 12:30
- Doing things that you don't want to do in a game is a grind -
Claude Errera,
2014-12-19, 11:26
- Doing things that you don't want to do in a game is a grind -
Cody Miller,
2014-12-19, 11:12
- Doing things that you don't want to do in a game is a grind -
Claude Errera,
2014-12-19, 11:07
- games with investment systems are NOT designed to be -
Cody Miller,
2014-12-19, 10:46
- games with investment systems are NOT designed to be -
Claude Errera,
2014-12-19, 08:23
- That's because you play as it was designed. -
Cody Miller,
2014-12-15, 12:53
- Radiant Materials -
Cody Miller,
2014-12-15, 12:12
- Radiant Materials -
petetheduck,
2014-12-15, 11:28
- Radiant Materials -
Cody Miller,
2014-12-15, 10:48
- Destiny has made me enjoy Dota more. -
Spec ops Grunt,
2014-12-15, 11:17
- Is this really a fair analogy? -
iconicbanana,
2014-12-15, 11:20
- Is this really a fair analogy? - Spec ops Grunt, 2014-12-15, 11:23
- Is this really a fair analogy? -
kidtsunami,
2014-12-15, 11:28
- Hmm...you're on to something here. -
iconicbanana,
2014-12-15, 11:32
- Hmm...you're on to something here. -
kidtsunami,
2014-12-15, 11:46
- Hmm...you're on to something here. -
iconicbanana,
2014-12-15, 11:51
- I'm bumming myself out -
kidtsunami,
2014-12-15, 12:04
- You bums - ZackDark, 2014-12-15, 13:06
- I'm bumming myself out -
kidtsunami,
2014-12-15, 12:04
- Hmm...you're on to something here. -
iconicbanana,
2014-12-15, 11:51
- Hmm...you're on to something here. -
kidtsunami,
2014-12-15, 11:46
- Hmm...you're on to something here. -
iconicbanana,
2014-12-15, 11:32
- Is this really a fair analogy? -
iconicbanana,
2014-12-15, 11:20
- Radiant Materials -
EffortlessFury,
2014-12-15, 10:36
- Eh, whatever. -
iconicbanana,
2014-12-15, 10:52
- Eh, whatever. -
Spec ops Grunt,
2014-12-15, 11:21
- Eh, whatever. - iconicbanana, 2014-12-15, 11:27
- Eh, whatever. - Revenant1988, 2014-12-15, 11:36
- Eh, whatever. -
unoudid,
2014-12-15, 13:17
- You guys are happy-hardcore -
iconicbanana,
2014-12-15, 13:54
- I like that term! - unoudid, 2014-12-15, 14:59
- You guys are happy-hardcore -
iconicbanana,
2014-12-15, 13:54
- Eh, whatever. -
Spec ops Grunt,
2014-12-15, 11:21
- I honestly agree with this whole article. -
Spec ops Grunt,
2014-12-15, 11:12
- I mean, I agree...I just don't really care, either :/ - iconicbanana, 2014-12-15, 11:14
- So we are all in agreement? -
Spec ops Grunt,
2014-12-15, 11:29
- Nah. -
RaichuKFM,
2014-12-15, 11:44
- DBO: Taking a shard into the hellmouth -
Spec ops Grunt,
2014-12-15, 11:52
- DBO: Taking a shard into the hellmouth - RaichuKFM, 2014-12-15, 12:09
- DBO: Taking a shard into the hellmouth -
Spec ops Grunt,
2014-12-15, 11:52
- So we are all in agreement? -
kidtsunami,
2014-12-15, 11:50
- So we are all in agreement? -
Spec ops Grunt,
2014-12-15, 11:56
- So we are all in agreement? -
Leviathan,
2014-12-15, 12:09
- So we are all in agreement? -
RaichuKFM,
2014-12-15, 12:10
- So we are all in agreement? - kidtsunami, 2014-12-15, 12:14
- So we are all in agreement? [img] - Spec ops Grunt, 2014-12-15, 12:15
- So we are all in agreement? -
RaichuKFM,
2014-12-15, 12:10
- So we are all in agreement? -
Leviathan,
2014-12-15, 12:09
- So we are all in agreement? -
Spec ops Grunt,
2014-12-15, 11:56
- So we are all in agreement? -
Cody Miller,
2014-12-15, 12:15
- We need to build a statue. -
Leviathan,
2014-12-15, 12:21
- :p - Ragashingo, 2014-12-15, 12:26
- We need to build a statue. -
Cody Miller,
2014-12-15, 14:37
- We need to build a statue. -
Leviathan,
2014-12-15, 14:53
- We need to build a statue. -
Cody Miller,
2014-12-15, 14:54
- We need to build a statue. - Leviathan, 2014-12-15, 15:02
- We need to build a statue. -
Claude Errera,
2014-12-19, 08:35
- We need to build a statue. -
Cody Miller,
2014-12-19, 10:42
- We need to build a statue. - Claude Errera, 2014-12-19, 11:10
- We need to build a statue. -
Cody Miller,
2014-12-19, 10:42
- We need to build a statue. -
Cody Miller,
2014-12-15, 14:54
- The engineering talent isn't gone - scarab, 2014-12-15, 15:08
- We need to build a statue. -
Leviathan,
2014-12-15, 14:53
- We need to build a statue. -
Leviathan,
2014-12-15, 12:21
- Investment team didn't decide to make a game with no content -
scarab,
2014-12-15, 12:19
- Investment team didn't decide to make a game with no content -
Cody Miller,
2014-12-15, 12:29
- I think they are being paid to be top of the charts - scarab, 2014-12-15, 13:24
- Investment team didn't decide to make a game with no content -
Cody Miller,
2014-12-15, 12:29
- Nah. -
RaichuKFM,
2014-12-15, 11:44
- A weekend with Xur -
unoudid,
2014-12-15, 14:08
- A weekend with Xur -
Durandal,
2014-12-15, 14:58
- A weekend with Xur -
Cody Miller,
2014-12-15, 15:00
- A weekend with Xur - iconicbanana, 2014-12-15, 15:02
- Broke for Iron Banner Now -
unoudid,
2014-12-15, 15:01
- Glimmer Grind is more boring than Mats Grind Was -
Kahzgul,
2014-12-15, 18:02
- Glimmer Grind is more boring than Mats Grind Was -
HavokBlue,
2014-12-15, 18:08
- Glimmer Grind is more boring than Mats Grind Was -
Cody Miller,
2014-12-16, 04:14
- Glimmer Grind is more boring than Mats Grind Was - HavokBlue, 2014-12-16, 04:56
- Kill counts will stop too sometimes. -
Revenant1988,
2014-12-16, 05:51
- Yep -
ZackDark,
2014-12-16, 08:22
- Citadel on Venus -
iconicbanana,
2014-12-16, 08:36
- Citadel on Venus -
Cody Miller,
2014-12-16, 09:04
- Citadel on Venus -
iconicbanana,
2014-12-16, 09:10
- You don't need 4 or 5 -
ZackDark,
2014-12-16, 09:11
- You don't need 4 or 5 -
iconicbanana,
2014-12-16, 09:16
- Fair enough :) - ZackDark, 2014-12-16, 09:22
- You don't need 4 or 5 -
iconicbanana,
2014-12-16, 09:16
- You don't need 4 or 5 -
ZackDark,
2014-12-16, 09:11
- Citadel on Venus - Schedonnardus, 2014-12-16, 14:08
- Citadel on Venus -
iconicbanana,
2014-12-16, 09:10
- Citadel on Venus -
Cody Miller,
2014-12-16, 09:04
- Citadel on Venus -
iconicbanana,
2014-12-16, 08:36
- Yep -
ZackDark,
2014-12-16, 08:22
- Glimmer Grind is more boring than Mats Grind Was -
Cody Miller,
2014-12-16, 04:14
- Glimmer Grind is more boring than Mats Grind Was -
HavokBlue,
2014-12-15, 18:08
- Glimmer Grind is more boring than Mats Grind Was -
Kahzgul,
2014-12-15, 18:02
- A weekend with Xur -
Cody Miller,
2014-12-15, 15:00
- A weekend with Xur -
Durandal,
2014-12-15, 14:58
- So I take it Bungie patched out BXR and Sword Flying... *NM* -
HawaiianPig,
2014-12-15, 20:10
- So I take it Bungie patched out BXR and Sword Flying... *NM* -
Cody Miller,
2014-12-16, 03:44
- So I take it Bungie patched out BXR and Sword Flying... *NM* -
HawaiianPig,
2014-12-16, 21:32
- Have you given up on gaming entirely? -
scarab,
2014-12-17, 00:14
- Have you given up on gaming entirely? -
HawaiianPig,
2014-12-18, 21:36
- If you are short on time then avoid Destiny - scarab, 2014-12-18, 23:42
- Have you given up on gaming entirely? -
HawaiianPig,
2014-12-18, 21:36
- Have you given up on gaming entirely? -
scarab,
2014-12-17, 00:14
- So I take it Bungie patched out BXR and Sword Flying... *NM* -
HawaiianPig,
2014-12-16, 21:32
- So I take it Bungie patched out BXR and Sword Flying... *NM* -
Cody Miller,
2014-12-16, 03:44
- Radiant Materials -
Cody Miller,
2014-12-15, 10:34