Why do you disagree? (Destiny)

by Kahzgul, Thursday, May 28, 2015, 13:37 (3466 days ago) @ Miguel Chavez

I'm of the opinion that loot systems need to account for outliers and include a raid loot counter that guarantees rewards every X raids in order to correct for the possibility of RNG-screwage.

I can't disagree with this enough.

Random is random.

- M

Why do you disagree? I'd really appreciate hearing some counterpoint.

I believe random is not a good reward system because - due to probability and statistics - there will be outliers who are never rewarded by that system. I feel like a good rewards system has (at the very least) checks in place to make sure that those outliers who are RNG screwed still get a reward at least some of the time so as to keep them feeling like the game is rewarding them.

Random is like saying "Hey guys, I designed our reward system! It's got a chance that no one gets anything, ever!" That's lame, and putting a couple of counters in for how many activities have been run since last loot to prevent that seems trivial.

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I think Bungie dropped the ball... - CruelLEGACEY, 2015-05-27, 16:44
- I think Bungie dropped the ball too. - CyberKN, 2015-05-27, 17:02
- I think Bungie dropped the ball... - MacAddictXIV, 2015-05-27, 17:12
  - I think Bungie dropped the ball... - CruelLEGACEY, 2015-05-27, 17:27
    - I think Bungie dropped the ball... - MacAddictXIV, 2015-05-27, 17:54
      - I think Bungie dropped the ball... - CruelLEGACEY, 2015-05-27, 18:08
        
        Bungie DID NOT drop the ball... - Speedracer513, 2015-05-27, 18:58
        
        +1 - MacAddictXIV, 2015-05-27, 19:04
        
        Bungie DID NOT drop the ball... - CruelLEGACEY, 2015-05-27, 19:20
        
        PoE is not required to progress - MacAddictXIV, 2015-05-27, 19:28
        
        PoE is not required to progress - CruelLEGACEY, 2015-05-27, 19:39
        
        Agreed - Anton P. Nym (aka Steve), 2015-05-27, 19:53
        
        Bungie DID NOT drop the ball... - Miguel Chavez, 2015-05-27, 22:50
        
        I feel like Mig is quietly judging me. - Funkmon, 2015-05-27, 23:06
        
        I know you clicked the link - Miguel Chavez, 2015-05-27, 23:57
        
        Need to clarify a few things - CruelLEGACEY, 2015-05-28, 02:25
        
        Not really needed, but OK. - Miguel Chavez, 2015-05-28, 16:28
        
        no worries - CruelLEGACEY, 2015-05-28, 16:35
        
        Need to clarify a few things - Earendil, 2015-05-28, 19:22
        
        Need to clarify a few things - Kermit, 2015-05-28, 20:44
        
        Technically... - someotherguy, 2015-05-28, 22:46
        
        Technically... - Ragashingo, 2015-05-29, 03:46
        
        Too close to call - someotherguy, 2015-05-29, 10:07
        
        Technically... - Kermit, 2015-05-29, 09:34
        
        Technically... - someotherguy, 2015-05-29, 10:06
        
        Technically... - Kermit, 2015-05-29, 10:52
        
        It's difficult, because it's 100% contextual - someotherguy, 2015-05-29, 13:06
        
        It's difficult, because it's 100% contextual - Kermit, 2015-05-29, 13:49
        
        It's difficult, because it's 100% contextual - someotherguy, 2015-05-29, 14:12
        
        Stahp! - iconicbanana, 2015-05-29, 13:13
        
        OBJECTION!!! - Ragashingo, 2015-05-29, 13:16
        
        OVERRULED. - iconicbanana, 2015-05-29, 13:18
        
        WHAAT?! - Ragashingo, 2015-05-29, 14:28
        
        Is Love? - iconicbanana, 2015-05-29, 14:31
        
        Baby - CyberKN, 2015-05-29, 14:36
        
        Don't hurt me. - MacAddictXIV, 2015-05-29, 14:37
        
        No more. - iconicbanana, 2015-05-29, 14:41
        
        To be clear, and technical - Earendil, 2015-06-10, 22:00
        
        Bungie DID NOT drop the ball... - Kermit, 2015-05-28, 12:25
        
        Why do I feel like I just got burned? - CruelLEGACEY, 2015-05-28, 14:35
        
        Why do I feel like I just got burned? - Kermit, 2015-05-28, 16:07
        
        <3 - CruelLEGACEY, 2015-05-28, 16:13
        
        Barf. - MacAddictXIV, 2015-05-29, 14:33
    - I think Bungie dropped the ball... - Ragashingo, 2015-05-27, 18:09
      - I think Bungie dropped the ball... - CruelLEGACEY, 2015-05-27, 18:26
        
        I think Bungie dropped the ball... - Ragashingo, 2015-05-27, 18:57
        
        Biggest understatement ever. - iconicbanana, 2015-05-27, 19:00
        
        Biggest understatement ever. - CruelLEGACEY, 2015-05-27, 19:42
        
        Biggest understatement ever. - iconicbanana, 2015-05-27, 19:43
        
        Biggest understatement ever. - CruelLEGACEY, 2015-05-27, 19:49
        
        I think you missed something in my post... - CruelLEGACEY, 2015-05-27, 19:36
        
        You should try ToO again. - Funkmon, 2015-05-27, 20:48
        
        You should try ToO again. - Ragashingo, 2015-05-27, 21:04
        
        I think Bungie dropped the ball... - DreadPirateWes, 2015-05-27, 18:57
        
        I think Bungie dropped the ball... - Claude Errera, 2015-05-28, 15:38
        
        I think Bungie dropped the ball... - CruelLEGACEY, 2015-05-28, 15:52
        
        I think Bungie dropped the ball... - Claude Errera, 2015-05-28, 15:55
        
        I think Bungie dropped the ball... - CruelLEGACEY, 2015-05-28, 16:05
        
        I think Bungie dropped the ball... - Cody Miller, 2015-05-31, 07:20
        
        I think Bungie dropped the ball... - Miguel Chavez, 2015-05-31, 10:41
        
        I think Bungie dropped the ball... - Cody Miller, 2015-06-01, 16:30
  - I think Bungie dropped the ball... - Doooskey, 2015-05-27, 17:31
  - I think Bungie dropped the ball... - stabbim, 2015-05-27, 19:32
    - I think Bungie dropped the ball... - MacAddictXIV, 2015-05-28, 14:21
- I think Bungie dropped the ball... - DreadPirateWes, 2015-05-27, 17:22
- I think Bungie dropped the ball... - Xenos, 2015-05-27, 17:36
  - I think Bungie dropped the ball... - CruelLEGACEY, 2015-05-27, 17:54
    - I think Bungie dropped the ball... - Xenos, 2015-05-27, 17:56
      - I think Bungie dropped the ball... - CruelLEGACEY, 2015-05-27, 18:15
        
        I think Bungie dropped the ball... - Xenos, 2015-05-27, 18:22
        
        I think Bungie dropped the ball... - CruelLEGACEY, 2015-05-27, 18:38
        
        I think Bungie dropped the ball... - Xenos, 2015-05-27, 18:39
        
        I think Bungie dropped the ball... - CruelLEGACEY, 2015-05-27, 18:47
        
        I think Bungie dropped the ball... - MacAddictXIV, 2015-05-27, 18:52
        
        I think Bungie dropped the ball... - Xenos, 2015-05-27, 18:55
  - Correction: Zero, SquidNH3 and I did on Saturday. - Funkmon, 2015-05-28, 00:05
  - Xbox Live vs. Playstation Network gamers - Hoovaloov, 2015-05-28, 00:53
    - agreed - Kermit, 2015-05-28, 08:17
- I think Bungie dropped the ball... - CommandrCleavage, 2015-05-27, 17:36
- I think Bungie dropped the ball... - General Vagueness, 2015-05-27, 17:43
  - I think Bungie dropped the ball... - Miguel Chavez, 2015-05-27, 22:56
- Yeah. - INSANEdrive, 2015-05-27, 18:10
- I think this sort of content is absolutely necessary. - iconicbanana, 2015-05-27, 18:49
  - I think this sort of content is absolutely necessary. - CruelLEGACEY, 2015-05-27, 19:05
    - I think this sort of content is absolutely necessary. - iconicbanana, 2015-05-27, 19:06
      - I think this sort of content is absolutely necessary. - CruelLEGACEY, 2015-05-27, 19:48
        
        I just don't understand this line of reasoning. - iconicbanana, 2015-05-27, 19:56
        
        I did give other reasons too, you know ;) - CruelLEGACEY, 2015-05-27, 20:00
        
        I just don't understand this line of reasoning. - Speedracer513, 2015-05-27, 20:05
        
        I just don't understand this line of reasoning. - CruelLEGACEY, 2015-05-27, 20:16
      - Priceless - DreadPirateWes, 2015-05-28, 03:17
        
        That might be me you're thinking of... - CyberKN, 2015-05-28, 03:32
        
        Priceless - CruelLEGACEY, 2015-05-28, 04:47
        
        Priceless - DreadPirateWes, 2015-05-28, 07:21
        
        Priceless - Kahzgul, 2015-05-28, 13:39
        
        Priceless - Xenos, 2015-05-28, 13:56
        
        Priceless - Kahzgul, 2015-05-28, 14:59
        
        Priceless - Xenos, 2015-05-28, 15:39
        
        Wait a minute... - CruelLEGACEY, 2015-05-28, 14:16
        
        You said almost the exact opposite a few months ago. - iconicbanana, 2015-05-28, 14:22
        
        Good memory :) - CruelLEGACEY, 2015-05-28, 14:32
        
        Good memory :) - iconicbanana, 2015-05-28, 14:44
        
        Right there with you :) - CruelLEGACEY, 2015-05-28, 14:48
        
        Wait a minute... - Yapok, 2015-05-28, 14:34
        
        I agree - CruelLEGACEY, 2015-05-28, 14:41
        
        I agree - Xenos, 2015-05-28, 16:21
  - Indeed. :) - Ragashingo, 2015-05-27, 19:07
- You make valid points on the game design, but... - Kahzgul, 2015-05-27, 19:19
  - You make valid points on the game design, but... - CruelLEGACEY, 2015-05-27, 19:58
    - You make valid points on the game design, but... - Earendil, 2015-05-27, 21:00
      - You make valid points on the game design, but... - CruelLEGACEY, 2015-05-27, 21:07
        
        You make valid points on the game design, but... - Xenos, 2015-05-27, 21:09
        
        You make valid points on the game design, but... - CyberKN, 2015-05-27, 21:11
        
        You make valid points on the game design, but... - Xenos, 2015-05-27, 21:58
        
        You make valid points on the game design, but... - Ragashingo, 2015-05-27, 21:10
        
        Cool! Good to know. - CruelLEGACEY, 2015-05-27, 21:28
  - You make valid points on the game design, but... - Kermit, 2015-05-27, 20:14
    - You make valid points on the game design, but... - Kahzgul, 2015-05-27, 20:51
      - Don't agree. - Miguel Chavez, 2015-05-27, 22:44
        
        Why do you disagree? - Kahzgul, 2015-05-28, 13:37
        
        Why do you disagree? - Kermit, 2015-05-28, 14:21
        
        Why do you disagree? - Kahzgul, 2015-05-28, 15:29
        
        Why do you disagree? - Ragashingo, 2015-05-28, 15:39
        
        Why do you disagree? - Kahzgul, 2015-05-28, 15:55
        
        Why do you disagree? - Ragashingo, 2015-05-28, 16:34
        
        Why do you disagree? - Kahzgul, 2015-05-28, 19:07
      - You make valid points on the game design, but... - narcogen, 2015-05-28, 02:14
        
        This is a matter of opinion (and I know I'm in the minority) - Kahzgul, 2015-05-28, 13:32
        
        Simply put, you are wrong. - Ragashingo, 2015-05-28, 15:22
        
        This is a matter of opinion (and I know I'm in the minority) - Kahzgul, 2015-05-28, 15:42
        
        This is a matter of opinion (and I know I'm in the minority) - Kermit, 2015-05-28, 16:00
        
        This is a matter of opinion (and I know I'm in the minority) - Kahzgul, 2015-05-28, 16:01
        
        This is a matter of opinion (and I know I'm in the minority) - Kermit, 2015-05-28, 16:06
        
        This is a matter of opinion (and I know I'm in the minority) - Kahzgul, 2015-05-28, 16:15
        
        This is a matter of opinion (and I know I'm in the minority) - Kermit, 2015-05-28, 16:22
        
        This is a matter of opinion (and I know I'm in the minority) - Kahzgul, 2015-05-28, 16:26
        
        This is a matter of opinion (and I know I'm in the minority) - Kermit, 2015-05-28, 17:07
        
        This is a matter of opinion (and I know I'm in the minority) - Kahzgul, 2015-05-28, 19:10
        
        There's an important distinction here... - CruelLEGACEY, 2015-05-28, 15:46
        
        Thank you - my point exactly! - Kahzgul, 2015-05-28, 16:07
        
        Simply put, you're not quite right. - Kermit, 2015-05-28, 15:44
  - This jumped out at me - someotherguy, 2015-05-27, 20:53
    - This jumped out at me - Kahzgul, 2015-05-27, 21:00
- On a personal level, I feel the same way...but it's all fine - Funkmon, 2015-05-28, 00:00
- Is this thread bugged? - CyberKN, 2015-05-28, 16:14
  - Definitely Yes - CyberKN, 2015-05-28, 16:14
    - Trying to figure out what's up… - Beorn, 2015-05-28, 19:46

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