Or it's a market problem (Destiny)
The expansion is $40. If that's too much for you, that's a you problem. They set that price on what they feel the value of their work is, and what they believe consumers are willing to pay. If you feel it's overcharging, that is a you problem. If you feel you're being taken advantage of, that is a you problem. Not a Bungie problem. Bungie's problem is finding a price the market will bear. They decided on $40.
Just thinking out loud but if the majority of people are "letting themselves be taken advantage of" (I'm not saying that is the case) maybe they need to educate themselves on that fact and start voting with their wallets a bit more. If the ratio of game "quality" to game price has dropped in the last 10 years or so it might be wise to, collectively, stop paying for these things.I don't fully believe that this is the case, but it's a nice idea.
Bungie (again, more likely Activision) is simply responding to that market. If consumers did stop spending like they had been, the prices would adjust. We all made this bed, and you're right, we as a group would need to collectively take action to create a change in the pricing of games. You can't blame sellers for pricing a product at the point where consumers are buying it.
But Bungie/Activision have also created that market force by intentionally designing Destiny in order to get consumers addicted. The result is that they are actively trying to addict you to their product and then sell you expansions they know you are less likely to resist (due to your addiction) at a price that is higher than what a non-addicted person would pay. There is a very real level of corporate greed and irresponsibility tied to this pricing and content release design; Bungie and Activision are not "innocent" or "simply following the market" here.
Putting agency in Bungie's hands by claiming they've created the addiction is precisely why people are addicted to Destiny. Take some responsibility and put that agency back in your own hands. Bungie has incentive to create a product with addictive aspects. You have an incentive to spend your time and money on what you find enjoyable. If you allow yourself to forgo your enjoyment by accepting Destiny's skinner box, it's a box you put yourself in.
You realise you are now claiming drug dealers bear no responsibility for the fact that people do drugs, right? Addiction, by definition, is an activity that people cannot stop doing even though they want to. Addicts need help, but drug dealers bear at least a portion of the blame.
Complete thread:
- Getting Robbed? -
TheeChaos,
2015-06-25, 15:45
- When you say "No thanks, I'll pass"...? -
CyberKN,
2015-06-25, 15:47
- I meant to ask you- -
Revenant1988,
2015-06-25, 16:31
- I meant to ask you- -
CyberKN,
2015-06-25, 16:43
- I meant to ask you- - Revenant1988, 2015-06-25, 16:50
- I meant to ask you- -
Usul,
2015-06-25, 16:50
- I meant to ask you- -
CyberKN,
2015-06-25, 17:07
- I meant to ask you- - Xenos, 2015-06-25, 17:16
- Why, that's not unreasonable at all! -
Korny,
2015-06-25, 17:20
- I think he's on point with what he wants -
Kahzgul,
2015-06-25, 18:02
- I think he's on point with what he wants -
Korny,
2015-06-25, 18:19
- I think he's on point with what he wants - Kahzgul, 2015-06-25, 18:31
- I think he's on point with what he wants -
Usul,
2015-06-25, 19:02
- I think he's on point with what he wants -
Kahzgul,
2015-06-25, 20:03
- I think he's on point with what he wants - Usul, 2015-06-25, 21:10
- I think he's on point with what he wants -
Kahzgul,
2015-06-25, 20:03
- I think he's on point with what he wants -
Korny,
2015-06-25, 18:19
- I think he's on point with what he wants -
Kahzgul,
2015-06-25, 18:02
- So you really want destiny 2. heh. -
slycrel,
2015-06-25, 17:45
- We all do lol - unoudid, 2015-06-25, 17:52
- I meant to ask you- -
Usul,
2015-06-25, 19:12
- I meant to ask you- -
CyberKN,
2015-06-25, 19:19
- I meant to ask you- -
Usul,
2015-06-25, 20:57
- I meant to ask you- -
Cody Miller,
2015-06-25, 21:20
- I meant to ask you- - Claude Errera, 2015-06-25, 22:12
- I meant to ask you- -
Cody Miller,
2015-06-25, 21:20
- I meant to ask you- -
Usul,
2015-06-25, 20:57
- I meant to ask you- -
CyberKN,
2015-06-25, 19:19
- I meant to ask you- -
CyberKN,
2015-06-25, 17:07
- I meant to ask you- -
CyberKN,
2015-06-25, 16:43
- I meant to ask you- -
Revenant1988,
2015-06-25, 16:31
- It ends when you say it ends. -
iconicbanana,
2015-06-25, 15:48
- It ends when you say it ends. -
TheeChaos,
2015-06-25, 15:58
- It ends when you say it ends. -
Claude Errera,
2015-06-25, 16:01
- It ends when you say it ends. -
TheeChaos,
2015-06-25, 16:03
- Help! I'm being robbed by willingly giving them my money! - Funkmon, 2015-06-25, 16:14
- It ends when you say it ends. -
TheeChaos,
2015-06-25, 16:03
- It ends when you say it ends. -
Claude Errera,
2015-06-25, 16:01
- It ends when you say it ends. -
TheeChaos,
2015-06-25, 15:58
- Getting Robbed? - Usul, 2015-06-25, 15:57
- Getting Robbed? - Xenos, 2015-06-25, 16:16
- It's not robbery. It's being taken advantage of. -
Kahzgul,
2015-06-25, 16:19
- It's market price. -
iconicbanana,
2015-06-25, 16:27
- It's market price. -
Kahzgul,
2015-06-25, 16:53
- It's market price. - iconicbanana, 2015-06-25, 17:00
- Or it's a market problem -
Monochron,
2015-06-25, 17:41
- Or it's a market problem -
iconicbanana,
2015-06-25, 17:46
- Or it's a market problem - Xenos, 2015-06-25, 17:48
- Troof - Monochron, 2015-06-25, 17:50
- Or it's a market problem -
Kahzgul,
2015-06-25, 17:55
- Or it's a market problem -
iconicbanana,
2015-06-25, 18:03
- Or it's a market problem -
Kahzgul,
2015-06-25, 18:06
- Or it's a market problem -
iconicbanana,
2015-06-25, 18:16
- Video game addiction is real -
Kahzgul,
2015-06-25, 18:28
- The actual sources you gave are about internet addiction.* -
iconicbanana,
2015-06-25, 21:15
- The actual sources you gave are about internet addiction.* - Kahzgul, 2015-06-25, 21:37
- The actual sources you gave are about internet addiction.* -
iconicbanana,
2015-06-25, 21:15
- Video game addiction is real -
Kahzgul,
2015-06-25, 18:28
- Or it's a market problem -
iconicbanana,
2015-06-25, 18:16
- Or it's a market problem -
Kahzgul,
2015-06-25, 18:06
- Or it's a market problem -
iconicbanana,
2015-06-25, 18:03
- Or it's a market problem -
iconicbanana,
2015-06-25, 17:46
- It's market price. -
Kahzgul,
2015-06-25, 16:53
- It's not robbery. It's being taken advantage of. - Xenos, 2015-06-25, 16:31
- It's not robbery. It's being taken advantage of. - TheeChaos, 2015-06-25, 16:32
- 12 cheap beers for $60...? 60 Natty Ices say hi. -
yakaman,
2015-06-25, 17:09
- Hell, I can get 60 mirror ponds for $60. -
iconicbanana,
2015-06-25, 17:11
- mmmm, mirror pond - Schedonnardus, 2015-06-25, 18:32
- 60 natty ices with a spare $25 for burgers for your guests. -
Funkmon,
2015-06-25, 17:19
- What does $25 get you at White Castle these days? -
iconicbanana,
2015-06-25, 17:21
- I think that'll give you around 90 hamburgers. -
Funkmon,
2015-06-25, 17:22
- First item is a pleasant surprise. The second was assumed. - iconicbanana, 2015-06-25, 17:23
- What does $25 get you at White Castle these days? -
Usul,
2015-06-25, 21:13
- No. - iconicbanana, 2015-06-25, 21:17
- Not even a little bit. - Claude Errera, 2015-06-25, 22:14
- On the most powerful angry bowel movement of your life. - Funkmon, 2015-06-25, 22:15
- A happy wedding party post reception. - unoudid, 2015-06-25, 22:34
- I think that'll give you around 90 hamburgers. -
Funkmon,
2015-06-25, 17:22
- What does $25 get you at White Castle these days? -
iconicbanana,
2015-06-25, 17:21
- I was thinking of what I'd pay at a bar, not a grocery store - Kahzgul, 2015-06-25, 17:59
- Hell, I can get 60 mirror ponds for $60. -
iconicbanana,
2015-06-25, 17:11
- CHEAP beers? $60 could buy 20 bottles of cheap wine! -
Funkmon,
2015-06-25, 17:16
- Or a bottle of Laphroaig. With change. - iconicbanana, 2015-06-25, 17:18
- CHEAP beers? $60 could buy 20 bottles of cheap wine! -
Kahzgul,
2015-06-25, 17:58
- $2 cheap bar beer in Detroit. -
Funkmon,
2015-06-25, 18:03
- Do you play Destiny at an arcade? Bad analogy. -
iconicbanana,
2015-06-25, 18:05
- It's not an analogy at all -
Kahzgul,
2015-06-25, 18:11
- It's not an analogy at all - iconicbanana, 2015-06-25, 18:14
- Destiny costs the same as a car! -
Funkmon,
2015-06-25, 18:14
- I'd rather have 12 beers - unoudid, 2015-06-25, 18:27
- That's great value! - Kahzgul, 2015-06-25, 18:29
- It's not an analogy at all -
Kahzgul,
2015-06-25, 18:11
- Christ I'm jealous. $2 beer is a fable told by elders in LA -
Kahzgul,
2015-06-25, 18:13
- $2 you call its are where its at. - Funkmon, 2015-06-25, 18:19
- during college I had $2 pitchers of High Life - unoudid, 2015-06-25, 18:23
- Do you play Destiny at an arcade? Bad analogy. -
iconicbanana,
2015-06-25, 18:05
- $2.50 in Texas *link* -
Schedonnardus,
2015-06-25, 18:34
- They charge $2.50 for PBR? What is this, China?! -
Funkmon,
2015-06-25, 18:53
- They charge $2.50 for PBR? What is this, China?! - uberfoop, 2015-06-25, 21:33
- They charge $2.50 for PBR? What is this, China?! - Schedonnardus, 2015-06-26, 13:07
- College Station? - Usul, 2015-06-25, 21:23
- They charge $2.50 for PBR? What is this, China?! -
Funkmon,
2015-06-25, 18:53
- CHEAP beers? $60 could buy 20 bottles of cheap wine! -
uberfoop,
2015-06-25, 18:36
- CHEAP beers? $60 could buy 20 bottles of cheap wine! - Kahzgul, 2015-06-25, 18:42
- $2 cheap bar beer in Detroit. -
Funkmon,
2015-06-25, 18:03
- It's market price. -
iconicbanana,
2015-06-25, 16:27
- No, you aren't. - ProbablyLast, 2015-06-25, 16:24
- Depreciation -
Durandal,
2015-06-25, 16:37
- Depreciation -
Avateur,
2015-06-25, 23:00
- Depreciation -
Ragashingo,
2015-06-25, 23:38
- Depreciation -
Avateur,
2015-06-25, 23:52
- Depreciation -
Ragashingo,
2015-06-26, 00:23
- Depreciation - Avateur, 2015-06-26, 00:56
- Depreciation -
Ragashingo,
2015-06-26, 00:23
- Depreciation -
Avateur,
2015-06-25, 23:52
- Depreciation -
Ragashingo,
2015-06-25, 23:38
- Depreciation -
Avateur,
2015-06-25, 23:00
- Hittler finds out about TTK pricing. -
CougRon,
2015-06-25, 16:44
- I still laugh at these everytime - unoudid, 2015-06-25, 16:49
- That was amazing - ChrisTheeCrappy, 2015-06-25, 16:59
- Oh man, that Disney comment. -
Funkmon,
2015-06-25, 17:30
- Oh man, that Disney comment. -
Claude Errera,
2015-06-25, 17:37
- Yeah, that occurred to me a few minutes later. *facepalm* - Funkmon, 2015-06-25, 17:42
- Disney does own SW & Marvel though - unoudid, 2015-06-25, 17:43
- Oh man, that Disney comment. -
Claude Errera,
2015-06-25, 17:37
- Hittler finds out about TTK pricing. - stabbim, 2015-06-25, 17:30
- Getting Robbed? - kanbo, 2015-06-25, 16:44
- Pay $40 -
Monochron,
2015-06-25, 17:35
- 'bout those dance moves -
unoudid,
2015-06-25, 17:44
- 'bout those dance moves -
Monochron,
2015-06-25, 17:48
- 'bout those dance moves - Xenos, 2015-06-25, 17:49
- Watch this. -
unoudid,
2015-06-25, 17:50
- Considering deleting my hunter and making a female exo now. -
Funkmon,
2015-06-25, 18:24
- Female Exo warlock here -
Usul,
2015-06-25, 21:29
- Female Exo warlock here -
Xenos,
2015-06-25, 22:21
- Female Exos are complete Butterfaces. - unoudid, 2015-06-25, 22:31
- Female Exo warlock here -
Xenos,
2015-06-25, 22:21
- Female Exo warlock here -
Usul,
2015-06-25, 21:29
- Watch this. - Kermit, 2015-06-25, 18:53
- Considering deleting my hunter and making a female exo now. -
Funkmon,
2015-06-25, 18:24
- 'bout those dance moves -
Monochron,
2015-06-25, 17:48
- 'bout those dance moves -
unoudid,
2015-06-25, 17:44
- When you say "No thanks, I'll pass"...? -
CyberKN,
2015-06-25, 15:47