"I keep touching Destiny and I don't know why" -RESPONSE- (Destiny)

by Revenant1988 , How do I forum?, Friday, October 30, 2015, 21:29 (3407 days ago) @ marmot 1333

I read this post a few times.

Part of me just wanted to post that "Old man yells at clouds" image in response.

I do that from time to time.

Part of me wanted to actually respond.

I'm at a place now where I read posts, and I think of something I'd like to say back (be it a sentence or essay) and I usually end up saying "screw it, it's not worth it. I don't know what changed.

My main takeaway is that you're comparing two things that are quite different.

Halo had Campaign and MP.

And Forge and Theater and even episodic content in Halo 4. But then they neutered theater... eh.

Destiny has Campaign, MP, Strikes, Raids, Patrol, Social Spaces.

Strikes, Raid and Patrol all fall under the collective umbrella of campaign to me. If I really wanted to split hairs, I would agree that they are more analogus to Halo's Fire fight as all those activities are PvE multiplayer.

I'm also going to throw out "social spaces". Any place you enter party chat is a social space in my mind. The pre-game lobbies of Halo were social spaces.

It seems you're measuring Destiny's campaign against Halo's campaign while leaving out all the new content types.

You ask if anyone has re-played any missions "just for fun" and say that anything giving a reward at the end doesn't count.

Yes. The only reward I got replaying Assault on the Control Room over and over and over again was my personal fun. Now I'm not saying you or others can't and don't have those moments with Desinty's campaign, but Destiny has to add incentives it's activities beyond basic fun.

Destiny becomes a game of "What do I get for doing this? What is my reward? Why do I want to do this?"

Of course, not everyone is going to look at it that way, even I didn't to a point. But then you only start to do activities BECAUSE you get rewards. "I still don't have my Hawkmoon, better run the nightfall 3 times and hope" is a prime example. Yeah, Bungie can randomize the rewards and the skulls and keep it a little fresher longer, but more people are inclined to play something because Desinty makes you feel like you "get" something out of it.

Halo wasn't like that (until Reach and 4 with credits system). I wasn't chasing anything other than a good time. Competition. Lol's with friends.

Yeah, I can still get those things in Destiny (and I have!) but rewards taint it. They change the focus for a lot of people. They can become a focus, rather than a bonus.

I've replayed all the missions--I've actually played through the entire campaign 5 times now. (Three titans, deleted two titans, made a hunter & a warlock.) I did that for fun.

That's good! I'd say you're one of the few. I was sad and confused on my very first play though as a Titan. I was bored an irritated at my second as a Hunter. The new content IS better. Yet it is NOT memorable to me like campaigns of other games. I've played it once and that's all I care to do.

Just last night I played some campaign missions just cause.

Above comment again.

To me, Destiny is actually fun. I wouldn't play it if I didn't have fun. I'm not a "keep up with the Jones'" kind of person--I've only beat one section of the raid, and my highest character is 297.

As I said before, Destiny to me *is* fun. But just *barely* fun. "Fun" is also subjective. My fun comes from exploration and discovery. A lot of that was ruined for me because I got to TTK late and all the mysteries had been solved. Obviously, I should have stayed away from here and I could have found most of the stuff on my own, to a point ( and I will for sure not make this mistake again).

Raid discovery, arguably Destiny's best feature is such a rush to do it now NOW NOW that it puts pressure on some (like me) to go quicker than we want so we don't get left behind.

Destiny can make you feel like you've been left behind.

I'm not opposed to timed events, they add to that discovery factor,like Sleeper stimulant. I was partially in the hunt for that but because of life, I missed the mission to get it. So it's a double edged sword.

I know these events will come around again, but until they do, I'm left out.

You guys are all fun to play with, but despite what you say an no matter how many re-assurances you give, I STILL DON'T WANT TO BE THAT NOOB WHO FUCKS UP THE RELIC IN VOG AGAIN. It's off putting, especially to newer players. Just a small example.

After a week of the content being out, I feel like I'm being punished for not knowing how some mechanic or encounter is supposed to work.

A lot of your complaints seem to come from a place of mismatched expectations. I play Destiny solo, a lot--most of my playtime. I can do campaigns, strikes, patrol, MP, whatever.

Yes. My expectations for Destiny were clearly different.

For strikes, the normal use case would be "beat the boss as soon as possible." If you want to explore, that's something you should gather a group of friends for.

No.

I should also have the option to do this solo. I do not.

You even say:

I shouldn't have to subjugate two of my friends to my wanting to stop and smell the roses, you know?

So why do you want to subjugate two randoms to that??

Ultimately I didn't, nor could I if I wanted to. I participated and cleared out rooms with them, but when I wanted to stop and sweep an area to sate my curiosity, they were running to the next encounter. To the point where it warps me up to them.

I can't stand those assholes who run so far ahead, GET KILLED, and then we all wipe. Especially when chasing a no-death bounty.

So why should I be subjugated to people who want to skip content to get to the end as fast as possible?

Maybe they should go join a party that wants to do that...

Hope this didn't come off too argumentative..

No not at all. Arguments are good. They keep you sharp and make you examine your claims, while forcing evaluations of other perspectives.

Thinned skin people who can't have a debate or discussion should get off the internet and go to their safe space.