
Just finished the campaign (Destiny)
So I read this yesterday:
http://www.gamesradar.com/why-halo-5s-story-fails-completely/
Much as I love the campaign, it's tough to argue with the points brought up here.
The big one for me is that you could remove both main protagonists from the game, and the overall story would turn out exactly the same. Nobody achieves, changes, or accomplishes anything at all. The only time the main characters appear to have any impact is when Locke helps the Arbiter, but that entire plot line is a bit of a side story, with no real relation to Chief/Cortana/Forerunner narrative.
I can't argue with that at all.
I also don't really mind. We got to see a lot of interesting things and places, and that's good enough for me.
I think I'm pretty lax compared to a lot of folks in that regard, though. I don't really need my Halo to tell an intricate, tight story. I just need to go to cool locations and do cool things, and have it make some sort of sense within the universe. Halo 5 has that in spades.
When it comes right down to it, yes, the player (as Locke or Chief) doesn't really do anything other than react to the situation (a criticism that has been leveled against almost every Halo game), and that is unfortunate. It's definitely something 343i should work on.
I have a bigger issue with the character of Locke in general. He's boring. He has no personality. While the same could definitely be said about the Master Chief, that's his character. And, in all actuality, the Master Chief showed more character and emotion in that one scene with Cortana than Locke showed in the whole game.
I can't remember if it was an article I read, or something you guys talked about in the RUL podcast, be there was so much potential with Locke. Buck set up some good conversations ("Everyone is going to hate us for this") that could have shed some light on Locke's character, but they get brought up and then dropped immediately after. We never see any tension for Locke in trying to bring in Blue Team. Maybe that is his character, the way he is, but if so, that's extremely disappointing, as we already had that for fifteen years with the Master Chief.
It seems pretty likely to me that Locke is being put forward as a new hero to possibly replace the Master Chief as the main protagonists. If that's the case, I though maybe they would bring in someone with more personality. As it stands, we've just gotten a black slate like the Chief, but one that no one gives a shit about, and Halo 5 certainly didn't make me feel invested in him. He could have been killed at the end of Halo 5 and it wouldn't have affected me at all. Buck was easily the only thing that made Fireteam Osiris interesting. But hell, even Vale and Tanaka are better characters than Locke at this point.
Complete thread:
- Halo 5 is growing on me -
petetheduck,
2015-10-31, 15:06
- Halo 5 is growing on me -
cheapLEY,
2015-10-31, 16:30
- Halo 5 is growing on me -
Funkmon,
2015-10-31, 17:04
- Halo 5 is growing on me -
cheapLEY,
2015-10-31, 21:05
- Halo 5 is growing on me - Funkmon, 2015-11-01, 01:36
- Halo 5 is growing on me -
cheapLEY,
2015-10-31, 21:05
- Halo 5 is growing on me -
Funkmon,
2015-10-31, 17:04
- Halo 5 is growing on me -
Avateur,
2015-11-01, 01:21
- Why do you think it's worse at the end?
- Funkmon, 2015-11-01, 01:37
- haven't played it yet but... -
Durandal,
2015-11-01, 12:05
- +7 - Korny, 2015-11-01, 13:14
- This is what happens when you don't have a Keyes in charge.. - Ragashingo, 2015-11-01, 16:24
- haven't played it yet but... -
Durandal,
2015-11-01, 12:05
- This is a ridiculous comment. -
yakaman,
2015-11-01, 12:13
- This is a ridiculous comment. -
TheGhostBrigade,
2015-11-01, 12:49
- This is a ridiculous comment. -
Funkmon,
2015-11-01, 13:08
- This is a ridiculous comment. - TheGhostBrigade, 2015-11-01, 16:32
- This is a ridiculous comment. -
Funkmon,
2015-11-01, 13:08
- This is a ridiculous comment. -
Leviathan,
2015-11-01, 13:31
- This is a ridiculous comment. - Avateur, 2015-11-01, 20:56
- This is a ridiculous comment. -
petetheduck,
2015-11-01, 13:33
- This is a ridiculous comment. - Avateur, 2015-11-01, 20:56
- This is a ridiculous comment. -
TheGhostBrigade,
2015-11-01, 12:49
- Just finished the campaign -
petetheduck,
2015-11-01, 15:20
- Just finished the campaign -
cheapLEY,
2015-11-01, 15:33
- Just finished the campaign -
CruelLEGACEY,
2015-11-01, 16:34
- Just finished the campaign -
cheapLEY,
2015-11-01, 16:56
- Just finished the campaign -
Funkmon,
2015-11-01, 19:08
- Just finished the campaign -
cheapLEY,
2015-11-01, 19:15
- Just finished the campaign - Funkmon, 2015-11-01, 19:21
- Except.... - Schedonnardus, 2015-11-02, 19:37
- Just finished the campaign - uberfoop, 2015-11-01, 19:18
- Just finished the campaign -
cheapLEY,
2015-11-01, 19:15
- What game doesn't? I'm confused... -
Revenant1988,
2015-11-01, 20:38
- What game doesn't? I'm confused... - cheapLEY, 2015-11-01, 21:31
- Just finished the campaign -
Funkmon,
2015-11-01, 19:08
- Just finished the campaign -
Funkmon,
2015-11-01, 19:14
- Just finished the campaign -
CruelLEGACEY,
2015-11-01, 22:04
- Just finished the campaign -
Funkmon,
2015-11-02, 01:00
- Just finished the campaign - CruelLEGACEY, 2015-11-02, 03:47
- Just finished the campaign -
Quirel,
2015-11-08, 06:15
- +1 - Avateur, 2015-11-08, 06:36
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Funkmon,
2015-11-02, 01:00
- Just finished the campaign - Cody Miller, 2015-11-02, 16:37
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CruelLEGACEY,
2015-11-01, 22:04
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Kermit,
2015-11-02, 12:19
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CruelLEGACEY,
2015-11-02, 13:13
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Kermit,
2015-11-02, 14:14
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- Just finished the campaign *Halo 5 Spoilers* -
CruelLEGACEY,
2015-11-02, 15:35
- Just finished the campaign *Halo 5 Spoilers* -
cheapLEY,
2015-11-02, 16:20
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Kermit,
2015-11-02, 17:00
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Claude Errera,
2015-11-02, 17:45
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CruelLEGACEY,
2015-11-02, 18:17
- Just finished the campaign *Halo 5 Spoilers* -
uberfoop,
2015-11-02, 18:34
- Just finished the campaign *Halo 5 Spoilers* -
cheapLEY,
2015-11-02, 18:39
- Just finished the campaign *Halo 5 Spoilers* -
Kermit,
2015-11-02, 19:44
- Just finished the campaign *Halo 5 Spoilers* - cheapLEY, 2015-11-02, 20:32
- Just finished the campaign *Halo 5 Spoilers* -
Kermit,
2015-11-02, 19:44
- Just finished the campaign *Halo 5 Spoilers* -
CruelLEGACEY,
2015-11-02, 18:51
- Just finished the campaign *Halo 5 Spoilers* - uberfoop, 2015-11-02, 19:06
- Just finished the campaign *Halo 5 Spoilers* -
cheapLEY,
2015-11-02, 18:39
- Just finished the campaign *Halo 5 Spoilers* -
uberfoop,
2015-11-02, 18:34
- Just finished the campaign *Halo 5 Spoilers* - cheapLEY, 2015-11-02, 18:20
- Just finished the campaign *Halo 5 Spoilers* -
CruelLEGACEY,
2015-11-02, 18:17
- Just finished the campaign *Halo 5 Spoilers* -
cheapLEY,
2015-11-02, 18:23
- Just finished the campaign *Halo 5 Spoilers* -
Kermit,
2015-11-02, 19:36
- Just finished the campaign *Halo 5 Spoilers* -
cheapLEY,
2015-11-02, 20:28
- Just finished the campaign *Halo 5 Spoilers* -
Claude Errera,
2015-11-02, 20:33
- Just finished the campaign *Halo 5 Spoilers* - CruelLEGACEY, 2015-11-02, 20:38
- Just finished the campaign *Halo 5 Spoilers* -
cheapLEY,
2015-11-02, 20:57
- Just finished the campaign *Halo 5 Spoilers* - Claude Errera, 2015-11-02, 21:06
- Just finished the campaign *Halo 5 Spoilers* -
Schedonnardus,
2015-11-03, 13:07
- Just finished the campaign *Halo 5 Spoilers* - cheapLEY, 2015-11-03, 17:48
- Just finished the campaign *Halo 5 Spoilers* -
uberfoop,
2015-11-02, 21:19
- Just finished the campaign *Halo 5 Spoilers* -
cheapLEY,
2015-11-02, 22:26
- Wardens....Legendary.... -
Mid7night,
2015-11-03, 04:28
- Wow -
cheapLEY,
2015-11-03, 12:18
- Wow -
MacGyver10,
2015-11-03, 14:53
- I kinda want prove to myself I can do it for real.
- Kermit, 2015-11-03, 18:10
- I kinda want prove to myself I can do it for real. -
MacGyver10,
2015-11-04, 12:33
- I kinda want prove to myself I can do it for real. - Kermit, 2015-11-04, 13:42
- I kinda want prove to myself I can do it for real. -
MacGyver10,
2015-11-04, 12:33
- I kinda want prove to myself I can do it for real.
- Wow -
MacGyver10,
2015-11-03, 14:53
- Wow -
cheapLEY,
2015-11-03, 12:18
- Wardens....Legendary.... -
Mid7night,
2015-11-03, 04:28
- Just finished the campaign *Halo 5 Spoilers* -
cheapLEY,
2015-11-02, 22:26
- Just finished the campaign *Halo 5 Spoilers* -
Kermit,
2015-11-02, 20:49
- Just finished the campaign *Halo 5 Spoilers* - cheapLEY, 2015-11-02, 20:54
- Just finished the campaign *Halo 5 Spoilers* -
Claude Errera,
2015-11-02, 20:33
- Just finished the campaign *Halo 5 Spoilers* -
cheapLEY,
2015-11-02, 20:28
- Just finished the campaign *Halo 5 Spoilers* -
Kermit,
2015-11-02, 19:36
- Exuberant Witness .... -
Mid7night,
2015-11-02, 19:36
- Exuberant Witness .... -
cheapLEY,
2015-11-02, 22:29
- Exuberant Witness .... -
narcogen,
2015-11-02, 23:38
- Exuberant Witness .... -
cheapLEY,
2015-11-03, 00:06
- Exuberant Witness .... - narcogen, 2015-11-03, 00:53
- Exuberant Witness .... -
cheapLEY,
2015-11-03, 00:06
- A ball of special cuteness... - Mid7night, 2015-11-03, 01:14
- Exuberant Witness .... -
narcogen,
2015-11-02, 23:38
- Exuberant Witness .... -
cheapLEY,
2015-11-02, 22:29
- Just finished the campaign *Halo 5 Spoilers* -
Claude Errera,
2015-11-02, 17:45
- Just finished the campaign *Halo 5 Spoilers* -
Kermit,
2015-11-02, 17:00
- Just finished the campaign *Halo 5 Spoilers* -
cheapLEY,
2015-11-02, 16:20
- Just finished the campaign -
Kermit,
2015-11-02, 14:14
- Just finished the campaign -
CruelLEGACEY,
2015-11-02, 13:13
- Just finished the campaign -
cheapLEY,
2015-11-01, 16:56
- Just finished the campaign -
CruelLEGACEY,
2015-11-01, 16:34
- Just finished the campaign - Avateur, 2015-11-01, 20:47
- Just finished the campaign -
cheapLEY,
2015-11-01, 15:33
- Why do you think it's worse at the end?
- Halo 5 is growing on me -
cheapLEY,
2015-10-31, 16:30