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Just finished the campaign (Destiny)

by CruelLEGACEY @, Toronto, Monday, November 02, 2015, 03:47 (3405 days ago) @ Funkmon

I'm not sure it matters. In the new Mad Max movie, he didn't do anything either. It was still good. And I know video games aren't movies.

I read it, and they are correct at almost every point. I am still happy with the story. What does that mean?

It means it didn't fail. It means the story was just not what they expected.

Chief and Locke were not the main characters of the story. They were just the observers. The dudes the camera was following. This framework has worked for a looooong time. Gamesradar just can't think outside their "I just took Creative Writing 151" box.


I'm not totally with you there. Mad Max wasn't the driving force of the movie, but he absolutely shaped and affected the outcome. Chief and Locke had literally no impact on the outcome of Halo 5.


He didn't really do anything, but even then, there are plenty of other films and stories like this. Look at Raiders of the Lost Ark, for example. He had even less effect than Locke and the Chief. It's a really well established thing.

Mad Max made a big difference to the outcome of the film; they wouldn't have made it to the "green land" without him, he convinced them to go back, and he helped make their return possible. Chief and Locke on the other hand change literally nothing about the outcome of Halo 5.

In the past, I'd be the first to argue that Chief (like Mad Max) was not what the story was about. But 343 has changed that. Chief isn't just a cypher anymore. We're supposed to be invested in him as the main character now.


I don't think we are. It is clear to me from the Halo 5 story that we AREN'T. The Chief doesn't really have any moments of character. He chooses to go get Cortana (a moment of agency) but we don't know what really motivated him. To me, it was Cole protocol and/or valuable intel. To others, it may have been some emotional thing. The point is, he is vague so he is an everyman.

343 has talked explicitly about how Chief is supposed to be the star of this new trilogy, with his growth as a hero being the driving force behind everything. They've made entire ViDocs about how they're trying to explore who chief is and make us care about him more than ever. To me, he sure seems to be the star of the show.


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