Just finished the campaign (Destiny)

by Quirel, Sunday, November 08, 2015, 06:15 (3399 days ago) @ Funkmon

I'm not totally with you there. Mad Max wasn't the driving force of the movie, but he absolutely shaped and affected the outcome. Chief and Locke had literally no impact on the outcome of Halo 5.

He didn't really do anything, but even then, there are plenty of other films and stories like this. Look at Raiders of the Lost Ark, for example. He had even less effect than Locke and the Chief. It's a really well established thing.

No it's not.
If Indiana Jones hadn't been on the hunt for the Ark of the Covenant, the Nazis would likely have found Marion Ravenwood and tortured her to death for the amulet. She lived only because Indiana Jones returned to save her... well, get the amulet too, but saving her was likely #1 on the Things To Do List.

But that's not all! Remember that nifty airplane that was parked at the dig site? The one that pureed Heinrich the Hefty shortly before it caught fire and exploded? It doesn't exist. But look at it! It's a flying-wing design years before such aircraft were developed in earnest! There's no reason for it to be at an archaeological dig site in Egypt, unless, you know, the Nazis planned to fly the Ark back to Germany.

So, Indiana Jones foiled that plan. And the backup plan to either drive the Ark up to Germany or fly it out of Cairo. And then he arranged for the Ark to be smuggled to America. He was hardly doing nothing.

Of course, there's people who say that without Indy mucking up every stage of the Nazi's plans, the Ark would have been taken to Germany to be opened in front of Hitler and a bunch of other Nazi high officials. That assertion doesn't hold water. The Nazis wanted a weapon, but Rene Belloq wanted to talk to personally talk to God, and that's hard to do with Adolf Hitler standing right behind you. Doubtlessly, he would have staged that exact same ceremony and got himself and everyone around him killed for their trouble. Pretty much the same ending as Raiders of the Lost Ark, except the Ark is smack-dab in the middle of Nazi territory. It's either a weapon for the Nazi regime, or a filthy Jewish icon that must be destroyed.

The Ark is much better off in a forgotten warehouse than it is in Nazi Germany.