Returning to Iron Banner after a Month Off... And I'm salty. (Destiny)
The netcode in Destiny is simply infuriating. Before you say my connection must stink, I get 50 Mbps down and 20 Mbps up (and I checked many times last night because of the reasons I'm about to enumerate).
You may know this, but my moderately anal technology side has to point out a few things for other's sake, and maybe yours :)
Among all the primary ways to measure a network connection, bandwidth, latency, and packet drop rate, games care way more about the last two, assuming your bandwidth is better than a 56k modem. In general, modern broadband and infrastructure has allowed for near zero packet loss and amazing latency, and bandwidth is what we all care about. But, when a connection becomes "bad" it's usually not because the bandwidth has dropped, but that latency has gone way up, or more often the packet loss has increased.
Now, severe packet loss will have an effect on total bandwidth, but unlikely to be in a way you'd notice. Say you had 100mbs available, but experienced 20% packet loss, forcing both sides to resend 20% of the info. Your pipe will run closer to 80mbs because of this, but it's not being capped at 80mbs that is killing your connection, it's that a fifth of all info is lost, out of order, and being resent if applicable. Not a problem if you're downloading a large file (who cares what order it comes in) but games really tend to care.
I'm concerned about Trials of Osiris. Instead of being "who is the better team" it's going to be "who got luckier with bullshit lag glitches."
Of course, if you're like me, the more likely scenario is that your opponent was fiddling with their connection and causing intentional issues.
95% of the time though the games plays beautiful with no latency issues for me at all.
Complete thread:
- Returning to Iron Banner after a Month Off... And I'm salty. -
Kahzgul,
2015-04-30, 14:37
- Returning to Iron Banner after a Month Off... And I'm salty. -
CruelLEGACEY,
2015-04-30, 14:52
- In my opinion, it's a superior method. -
Funkmon,
2015-04-30, 15:00
- It's worth it for the hilarious lag-induced failures, imo. - iconicbanana, 2015-04-30, 15:03
- Returning to Iron Banner after a Month Off... And I'm salty. - DreadPirateWes, 2015-04-30, 15:10
- In my opinion, it's a superior method. -
Funkmon,
2015-04-30, 15:00
- Returning to Iron Banner after a Month Off... And I'm salty. -
Earendil,
2015-04-30, 15:03
- One other networking point that needs to be brought up too -
Xenos,
2015-04-30, 15:21
- One other networking point that needs to be brought up too -
Earendil,
2015-04-30, 15:35
- One other networking point that needs to be brought up too -
CruelLEGACEY,
2015-04-30, 16:43
- One other networking point that needs to be brought up too -
Xenos,
2015-04-30, 17:00
- One other networking point that needs to be brought up too -
Earendil,
2015-04-30, 17:20
- One other networking point that needs to be brought up too - Xenos, 2015-04-30, 17:27
- One other networking point that needs to be brought up too -
Earendil,
2015-04-30, 17:20
- One other networking point that needs to be brought up too -
Xenos,
2015-04-30, 17:00
- One other networking point that needs to be brought up too -
CruelLEGACEY,
2015-04-30, 16:43
- One other networking point that needs to be brought up too -
DreadPirateWes,
2015-04-30, 16:36
- Funkmon's tether is love/life. -
iconicbanana,
2015-04-30, 16:41
- Funkmon's tether is love/life. -
unoudid,
2015-04-30, 16:51
- Funkmon's tether is love/life. -
DreadPirateWes,
2015-04-30, 17:42
- That was good gif. - Funkmon, 2015-04-30, 18:00
- Funkmon's tether is love/life. -
DreadPirateWes,
2015-04-30, 17:42
- Funkmon's tether is love/life. - DiscipleN2k, 2015-04-30, 19:28
- Funkmon's tether is love/life. -
unoudid,
2015-04-30, 16:51
- Funkmon's tether is love/life. -
iconicbanana,
2015-04-30, 16:41
- One other networking point that needs to be brought up too -
Earendil,
2015-04-30, 15:35
- One other networking point that needs to be brought up too -
Xenos,
2015-04-30, 15:21
- I stopped caring about Iron Banner when they reset ranks -
petetheduck,
2015-04-30, 15:38
- Agree, very frustrating. - CommandrCleavage, 2015-04-30, 15:43
- I stopped caring about Iron Banner when they reset ranks -
CruelLEGACEY,
2015-04-30, 16:35
- I stopped caring about Iron Banner when they reset ranks -
unoudid,
2015-04-30, 16:56
- I stopped caring about Iron Banner when they reset ranks -
CruelLEGACEY,
2015-04-30, 16:57
- only 3 ranks. what IB should be - Raflection, 2015-04-30, 21:04
- I stopped caring about Iron Banner when they reset ranks - Ragashingo, 2015-04-30, 16:59
- I stopped caring about Iron Banner when they reset ranks - Xenos, 2015-04-30, 17:05
- I stopped caring about Iron Banner when they reset ranks -
CruelLEGACEY,
2015-04-30, 16:57
- I stopped caring about Iron Banner when they reset ranks -
unoudid,
2015-04-30, 16:56
- I stopped caring about Iron Banner since before it existed - stabbim, 2015-04-30, 23:39
- I don't think it's you, it's them -
BeardFade,
2015-04-30, 16:21
- I blame the lag switching exploits I don't understand. - iconicbanana, 2015-04-30, 16:22
- I don't think it's you, it's them -
Claude Errera,
2015-04-30, 16:22
- We've all been there. - iconicbanana, 2015-04-30, 16:25
- Heh. I went and sailed Black Flag's lagless seas! :p -
Ragashingo,
2015-04-30, 17:00
- I was just thinking about Black Flag yesterday... - CruelLEGACEY, 2015-04-30, 17:09
- Maniacal laughter is fun!!!!! -
Up North 65,
2015-04-30, 19:11
- You aren't the worst I've seen. -
iconicbanana,
2015-04-30, 19:19
- You aren't the worst I've seen. -
Up North 65,
2015-04-30, 19:23
- You aren't the worst I've seen. - unoudid, 2015-04-30, 20:10
- You aren't the worst I've seen. -
Up North 65,
2015-04-30, 19:23
- Are you kidding me?! - Dagoonite, 2015-04-30, 19:56
- You aren't the worst I've seen. -
iconicbanana,
2015-04-30, 19:19
- I don't think it's you, it's them - CaneCutter, 2015-04-30, 17:49
- Case in point -
BeardFade,
2015-04-30, 23:18
- But I'm on PS4 - Kahzgul, 2015-05-01, 01:46
- I just bought a new modem because of the lag last night -
unoudid,
2015-04-30, 16:59
- I just bought a new modem because of the lag last night -
Claude Errera,
2015-04-30, 17:17
- I just bought a new modem because of the lag last night -
unoudid,
2015-04-30, 17:24
- I just bought a new modem because of the lag last night -
stabbim,
2015-04-30, 17:35
- Found the problem. - Funkmon, 2015-04-30, 18:02
- I just bought a new modem because of the lag last night - unoudid, 2015-04-30, 18:12
- I just bought a new modem because of the lag last night -
stabbim,
2015-04-30, 17:35
- I just bought a new modem because of the lag last night -
unoudid,
2015-04-30, 17:24
- I just bought a new modem because of the lag last night -
Claude Errera,
2015-04-30, 17:17
- Returning to Iron Banner after a Month Off... And I'm salty. -
stabbim,
2015-04-30, 17:34
- 16 ms ping, 0 packet loss -
Kahzgul,
2015-04-30, 19:23
- 16 ms ping, 0 packet loss - stabbim, 2015-04-30, 23:36
- 16 ms ping, 0 packet loss -
Kahzgul,
2015-04-30, 19:23
- Connectivity based matchmaking vs skill -
red robber,
2015-04-30, 18:20
- Connectivity based matchmaking vs skill -
CyberKN,
2015-04-30, 18:21
- One Word - red robber, 2015-04-30, 18:25
- Connectivity based matchmaking vs skill -
ZackDark,
2015-04-30, 18:54
- Connectivity based matchmaking vs skill -
Ragashingo,
2015-04-30, 19:12
- I've seen it before, and it's ugly. -
iconicbanana,
2015-04-30, 19:23
- I've seen it before, and it's ugly. -
bluerunner,
2015-04-30, 21:50
- I've seen it before, and it's ugly. -
CyberKN,
2015-04-30, 21:55
- I've seen it before, and it's ugly. -
bluerunner,
2015-04-30, 22:06
- I've seen it before, and it's ugly. - Ragashingo, 2015-04-30, 23:50
- I've seen it before, and it's ugly. -
CruelLEGACEY,
2015-04-30, 22:43
- I've seen it before, and it's ugly. - CyberKN, 2015-05-01, 04:39
- I've seen it before, and it's ugly. -
bluerunner,
2015-04-30, 22:06
- I've seen it before, and it's ugly. -
CyberKN,
2015-04-30, 21:55
- I've seen it before, and it's ugly. -
bluerunner,
2015-04-30, 21:50
- I've seen it before, and it's ugly. -
iconicbanana,
2015-04-30, 19:23
- Connectivity based matchmaking vs skill -
Ragashingo,
2015-04-30, 19:12
- Connectivity based matchmaking vs skill -
CyberKN,
2015-04-30, 18:21
- Returning to Iron Banner after a Month Off... And I'm salty. -
Ragashingo,
2015-04-30, 19:22
- Returning to Iron Banner after a Month Off... And I'm salty. -
Kahzgul,
2015-04-30, 19:26
- Returning to Iron Banner after a Month Off... And I'm salty. -
CyberKN,
2015-04-30, 19:56
- Returning to Iron Banner after a Month Off... And I'm salty. -
Ragashingo,
2015-04-30, 19:57
- Returning to Iron Banner after a Month Off... And I'm salty. -
iconicbanana,
2015-04-30, 19:59
- Returning to Iron Banner after a Month Off... And I'm salty. -
CyberKN,
2015-04-30, 20:05
- Returning to Iron Banner after a Month Off... And I'm salty. - iconicbanana, 2015-04-30, 20:09
- Returning to Iron Banner after a Month Off... And I'm salty. -
Ragashingo,
2015-04-30, 20:33
- Different argument. *edit -
iconicbanana,
2015-04-30, 20:34
- Returning to Iron Banner after a Month Off... And I'm salty. -
CyberKN,
2015-04-30, 20:37
- I actually agree too. - iconicbanana, 2015-04-30, 20:38
- Returning to Iron Banner after a Month Off... And I'm salty. -
CyberKN,
2015-04-30, 20:37
- Different argument. *edit -
iconicbanana,
2015-04-30, 20:34
- Returning to Iron Banner after a Month Off... And I'm salty. - Kahzgul, 2015-05-01, 01:49
- Returning to Iron Banner after a Month Off... And I'm salty. -
CyberKN,
2015-04-30, 20:05
- Returning to Iron Banner after a Month Off... And I'm salty. -
iconicbanana,
2015-04-30, 19:59
- Returning to Iron Banner after a Month Off... And I'm salty. -
Ragashingo,
2015-04-30, 19:57
- Returning to Iron Banner after a Month Off... And I'm salty. -
CyberKN,
2015-04-30, 19:56
- Returning to Iron Banner after a Month Off... And I'm salty. -
ZackDark,
2015-04-30, 20:19
- Returning to Iron Banner after a Month Off... And I'm salty. -
Ragashingo,
2015-04-30, 20:44
- Returning to Iron Banner after a Month Off... And I'm salty. - ZackDark, 2015-04-30, 21:37
- Returning to Iron Banner after a Month Off... And I'm salty. -
red robber,
2015-04-30, 21:18
- Returning to Iron Banner after a Month Off... And I'm salty. - ZackDark, 2015-04-30, 21:28
- I'd be so happy if we both died - Kahzgul, 2015-05-01, 01:51
- Returning to Iron Banner after a Month Off... And I'm salty. -
Ragashingo,
2015-04-30, 20:44
- Returning to Iron Banner after a Month Off... And I'm salty. -
Kahzgul,
2015-04-30, 19:26
- Returning to Iron Banner after a Month Off... And I'm salty. -
CruelLEGACEY,
2015-04-30, 14:52