Wait... (Destiny)

by cheapLEY , Wednesday, March 16, 2016, 16:50 (3268 days ago) @ Kahzgul

As for the gun feel, it's actually really awesome. Not only do the weapon classes themselves feel good (sidearm, shotgun, smg, AR, LMG, DMR), but within those realms the individual weapons do have fairly unique feels. The way that feel is achieved is that the weapons differentiate more as they increase in level. A level 2 MP5 feels almost the same as a level 2 MP7, but a level 20 MP5 is noticeably softer hitting with smoother recoil than the chunkier level 20 MP7. The SCAR-H DMR at level 2 feels like a sniper rifle with a 20 round mag, but at level 20 it's clearly not going to be 1-shotting anyone (more like 3 headshots per kill) whereas a level 20 M44 is a true sniper rifle (bolt action, even) and will dome any red bar with a single round.

The result is that, as you play, you're encouraged to experiment early on as almost all weapons are interchangeable, but as you progress, you find that you like how certain weapons feel to the point where you're just not going to swap them for something with higher DPS because it doesn't handle the way you prefer.

That all sounds terrible, and I'm of the belief that it's really bad game design. I only played the beta, so that's where my opinions of terrible shooting comes from. Sounds like maybe I would actually enjoy high-level The Division play. But at the beginning, all the guns are the same (and boring) and it feels bad, so I'm not going to play it for ten or fifteen hours just find out what high-level play is like. It's bad design.

Last note: There's not cannon about enemies being tougher as a result of the plague or anything like that. Those baseball bat guys are "rioters" who are the most basic enemy faction (all of the other factions' rusher type units have shotguns instead of baseball bats), and in the videos you're seeing, the player is in a full group and is a little underleveled, which is why that baseball bat guy can soak up two full mags from an SMG.

I hope this explains things!

It does, but it doesn't make it any more appealing.

Sorry, I'm not trying to be that fanboy that just shits all over. I'm glad folks are enjoying The Division, and I truly hope some of the concepts from the Dark Zone spread beyond The Division, because it is interesting. If anything else, I hope people really love it and play it for a long time if only so Bungie really comes out swinging with the expansion this fall and for Destiny 2.