Discounting an opinion because it disagrees is poor argument (Gaming)
Seriously, a couple of us on these boards craft stories for a living. We're genuinely interested in the art of storytelling and spend lots of time thinking about it, doing it, and discussing it. You've got an opinion that I disagree with, but if I were to dismiss yours in the way that you're dismissing mine, I think you'd be insulted. I know I am.
If you've said your piece and have nothing left to add, that's one thing, but it sounds more like you're saying I'm a moron for disagreeing with you.
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I'll back up to a very broad stroke of where I'm coming from; the underlying premise of my approach to all art, film or otherwise:
I believe that the point of art, speaking is the most broad sense possible, is to illicit an emotional reaction in the audience. Mad max gave me no reaction. But it gave you something. That's great; it did it's job as far as you're concerned. For me, it lacked in what I need in a story. I'll grant that I lean far more heavily on character development and story arc than most modern blockbuster films are willing to attempt. But I think those things are important and I found them lacking in MMFR.
The reason I focus on Nuk (that's the side switcher, I take it) is not because I'm obsessed with him but because his story is the only one that makes a journey. He's the only character that learns something about himself, the only one who is in any sort of emotional way affected by the events of the film, and the only one who changes as the story progresses.
Not every story needs to follow the same path: One story may start with a seed, watch it grow, and end with a tree; while another story may start with a forest and then burn the whole thing down, but if you start with a tree and end with the exact same tree, why didn't you just take a picture. Mad Max: Fury Road gives me a picture of Furiosa, a picture of Max, a picture of the breeders, a picture of the Immortan, and a picture of the mother-bikers, but it gives me arc only for Nuk.
I hope this explains a bit about where I'm coming from and helps you see that disagreement is an inherent element of perspective. The tall man thinks the chair too small, and the short man thinks it too big, while the middle-sized man finds it flawless. They are all correct.
Complete thread:
- Duh -
Cody Miller,
2016-05-30, 15:13
- Duh -
CyberKN,
2016-05-30, 15:33
- Duh -
Cody Miller,
2016-05-30, 16:11
- Duh -
cheapLEY,
2016-05-30, 16:15
- Duh -
Cody Miller,
2016-05-30, 16:22
- Duh -
Claude Errera,
2016-05-30, 17:18
- Duh - Cody Miller, 2016-05-30, 17:39
- Duh -
CruelLEGACEY,
2016-05-30, 18:30
- Duh -
Cody Miller,
2016-05-30, 18:34
- Good point. - Ragashingo, 2016-05-30, 20:03
- The People at the Top -
Kahzgul,
2016-05-31, 13:04
- The People at the Top - Quirel, 2016-06-04, 23:15
- Duh - CyberKN, 2016-05-30, 19:13
- Duh -
Cody Miller,
2016-05-30, 18:34
- Duh -
CruelLEGACEY,
2016-05-30, 17:25
- Duh -
Cody Miller,
2016-05-30, 17:48
- Disagree. For many reasons. - Ragashingo, 2016-05-30, 18:07
- Duh (Cap 3 spoilers) -
CruelLEGACEY,
2016-05-30, 18:13
- Duh (Cap 3 spoilers) -
Cody Miller,
2016-05-30, 18:20
- Duh (Cap 3 spoilers) - CruelLEGACEY, 2016-05-30, 18:23
- Duh (Cap 3 spoilers) -
Cody Miller,
2016-05-30, 18:20
- My heart pounds during that Dubai scene. -
Funkmon,
2016-05-30, 18:58
- I also found the Dubai scene pretty tame -
ZackDark,
2016-05-30, 22:22
- I also found the Dubai scene pretty tame -
CruelLEGACEY,
2016-05-30, 22:52
- Exactly the same for me - ZackDark, 2016-05-30, 23:18
- I also found the Dubai scene pretty tame -
CruelLEGACEY,
2016-05-30, 22:52
- I also found the Dubai scene pretty tame -
ZackDark,
2016-05-30, 22:22
- Duh -
Cody Miller,
2016-05-30, 17:48
- Go see Love and Friendship. -
Kermit,
2016-05-30, 18:22
- Go see Love and Friendship. -
Cody Miller,
2016-05-30, 18:24
- Go see Love and Friendship. -
Kermit,
2016-05-30, 18:26
- Go see Love and Friendship. -
Cody Miller,
2016-05-30, 18:28
- Go see Love and Friendship. -
CruelLEGACEY,
2016-05-30, 18:31
- Go see Love and Friendship. -
cheapLEY,
2016-05-30, 19:01
- I thought it was good but didn't change my life or anything. - Funkmon, 2016-05-30, 19:19
- Go see Love and Friendship. - Korny, 2016-05-30, 19:08
- *Raises hand, slowly* -
CyberKN,
2016-05-30, 19:16
- Same - ZackDark, 2016-05-30, 22:24
- Nope. - Ragashingo, 2016-05-30, 20:06
- Go see Love and Friendship. -
Kermit,
2016-05-31, 02:30
- Go see Love and Friendship. -
Cody Miller,
2016-05-31, 02:44
- Go see Love and Friendship. - Kermit, 2016-05-31, 04:50
- Go see Love and Friendship. -
Cody Miller,
2016-05-31, 02:44
- Nope, you're not alone. - slycrel, 2016-05-31, 06:02
- Go see Love and Friendship. - Kahzgul, 2016-05-31, 13:14
- Go see Love and Friendship. -
cheapLEY,
2016-05-30, 19:01
- Go see Love and Friendship. -
CruelLEGACEY,
2016-05-30, 18:31
- Go see Love and Friendship. -
narcogen,
2016-05-31, 02:21
- Heh. - Kermit, 2016-05-31, 02:31
- Go see Love and Friendship. -
Cody Miller,
2016-05-31, 02:57
- Go see Love and Friendship. -
narcogen,
2016-05-31, 07:26
- ಠ_ಠ - Funkmon, 2016-05-31, 19:13
- Go see Love and Friendship. -
narcogen,
2016-05-31, 07:26
- Go see Love and Friendship. -
Cody Miller,
2016-05-30, 18:28
- Go see Love and Friendship. -
Kermit,
2016-05-30, 18:26
- Mad Max Fury Road -
Kahzgul,
2016-05-31, 13:11
- Mad Max Fury Road -
Kermit,
2016-05-31, 18:33
- Mad Max Fury Road -
Kahzgul,
2016-05-31, 21:54
- Mad Max Fury Road -
Kermit,
2016-05-31, 22:18
- Mad Max Fury Road -
Kahzgul,
2016-05-31, 22:49
- Mad Max Fury Road - ZackDark, 2016-05-31, 23:41
- Mad Max Fury Road -
Kermit,
2016-06-01, 14:39
- Mad Max Fury Road - Kahzgul, 2016-06-01, 15:13
- Mad Max Fury Road -
Kahzgul,
2016-05-31, 22:49
- I dunno, the story of Immortan Joe is kinda interesting - someotherguy, 2016-06-01, 15:35
- Mad Max Fury Road -
Kermit,
2016-05-31, 22:18
- I think MMFR is one of the best-made bad movies ever... -
CruelLEGACEY,
2016-06-01, 16:13
- That is... a terrible analysis... -
Korny,
2016-06-01, 17:15
- That is... a terrible analysis... -
CruelLEGACEY,
2016-06-01, 17:35
- That is... a terrible analysis... -
Korny,
2016-06-01, 18:01
- That is... a terrible analysis... -
someotherguy,
2016-06-01, 18:08
- LOL -
CruelLEGACEY,
2016-06-01, 18:12
- LOL -
Korny,
2016-06-01, 18:41
- Not every discussion has to have a winner. -
Funkmon,
2016-06-01, 21:01
- That's loser talk... -
Korny,
2016-06-01, 22:05
- And sometimes people have to get back to work... -
CruelLEGACEY,
2016-06-01, 22:19
- And sometimes people have to get back to work... - Korny, 2016-06-02, 01:40
- That's loser talk... - Cody Miller, 2016-06-02, 00:51
- And sometimes people have to get back to work... -
CruelLEGACEY,
2016-06-01, 22:19
- That's loser talk... -
Korny,
2016-06-01, 22:05
- Not every discussion has to have a winner. -
Funkmon,
2016-06-01, 21:01
- LOL -
Korny,
2016-06-01, 18:41
- That is... a terrible analysis... - Kermit, 2016-06-01, 19:17
- LOL -
CruelLEGACEY,
2016-06-01, 18:12
- That is... a terrible analysis... -
CruelLEGACEY,
2016-06-01, 22:27
- That is... a terrible analysis... -
Kermit,
2016-06-01, 22:46
- That is... a terrible analysis... - Kermit, 2016-06-02, 13:10
- That is... a terrible analysis... - Kahzgul, 2016-06-02, 18:13
- That is... a terrible analysis... -
Kermit,
2016-06-01, 22:46
- That is... a terrible analysis... -
someotherguy,
2016-06-01, 18:08
- That is... a terrible analysis... -
Korny,
2016-06-01, 18:01
- +1! - Quirel, 2016-06-04, 23:27
- That is... a terrible analysis... -
CruelLEGACEY,
2016-06-01, 17:35
- I think MMFR is one of the best-made bad movies ever... -
Kermit,
2016-06-01, 17:33
- Ah, that I agree with - ZackDark, 2016-06-01, 21:14
- I think MMFR is one of the best-made bad movies ever... -
Kahzgul,
2016-06-01, 21:28
- I wish I could form thoughts into words like this. -
CyberKN,
2016-06-01, 21:32
- Thanks dude :) - Kahzgul, 2016-06-02, 18:14
- I think it's finally confirmed... -
squidnh3,
2016-06-01, 22:39
- made me laugh - Kermit, 2016-06-01, 22:48
- DBO Multiverse confirmed ;) - CruelLEGACEY, 2016-06-01, 22:48
- I JUST WANT TO CROSS OVER! - Kahzgul, 2016-06-02, 00:42
- I think MMFR is one of the best-made bad movies ever... -
Kermit,
2016-06-01, 22:40
- I think MMFR is one of the best-made bad movies ever... -
Cody Miller,
2016-06-02, 00:53
- I think MMFR is one of the best-made bad movies ever... - Kahzgul, 2016-06-02, 01:05
- Discounting an opinion because it disagrees is poor argument -
Kahzgul,
2016-06-02, 01:00
- Discounting an opinion because it disagrees is poor argument -
cheapLEY,
2016-06-02, 01:17
- Discounting an opinion because it disagrees is poor argument -
Kahzgul,
2016-06-02, 17:54
- Discounting an opinion because it disagrees is poor argument -
cheapLEY,
2016-06-02, 18:17
- Discounting an opinion because it disagrees is poor argument - Kahzgul, 2016-06-04, 21:03
- Discounting an opinion because it disagrees is poor argument -
cheapLEY,
2016-06-02, 18:17
- Discounting an opinion because it disagrees is poor argument -
Kahzgul,
2016-06-02, 17:54
- Discounting an opinion because it disagrees is poor argument -
Kermit,
2016-06-02, 02:30
- Discounting an opinion because it disagrees is poor argument -
Cody Miller,
2016-06-02, 03:10
- Discounting an opinion because it disagrees is poor argument - Kahzgul, 2016-06-02, 18:09
- Discounting an opinion because it disagrees is poor argument -
Cody Miller,
2016-06-02, 03:10
- Discounting an opinion because it disagrees is poor argument -
cheapLEY,
2016-06-02, 01:17
- I think MMFR is one of the best-made bad movies ever... -
Cody Miller,
2016-06-02, 00:53
- I think MMFR is one of the best-made bad movies ever... - marmot 1333, 2016-06-02, 15:40
- I wish I could form thoughts into words like this. -
CyberKN,
2016-06-01, 21:32
- The movie doesn't hand hold - Avateur, 2016-06-02, 01:07
- That is... a terrible analysis... -
Korny,
2016-06-01, 17:15
- Mad Max Fury Road -
Kahzgul,
2016-05-31, 21:54
- Mad Max Fury Road -
Kermit,
2016-05-31, 18:33
- Go see Love and Friendship. -
Cody Miller,
2016-05-30, 18:24
- You forgot cheeseball dialogue on your list - Pyromancy, 2016-05-30, 22:17
- I agree with this so much -
Kahzgul,
2016-05-31, 12:58
- I agree with this so much -
Cody Miller,
2016-05-31, 13:47
- I agree with this so much - Kahzgul, 2016-05-31, 14:08
- You are crazy. - cheapLEY, 2016-05-31, 15:23
- I agree with this so much -
Korny,
2016-05-31, 15:46
- I agree with this so much -
Kahzgul,
2016-05-31, 18:46
- I agree with this so much -
Cody Miller,
2016-05-31, 19:13
- I agree with this so much - uberfoop, 2016-05-31, 19:32
- I agree with this so much -
Korny,
2016-05-31, 20:42
- I agree with this so much -
uberfoop,
2016-05-31, 21:12
- You think that's bad? -
CyberKN,
2016-05-31, 21:21
- Wow - ZackDark, 2016-05-31, 21:53
- You think that's bad? - Kahzgul, 2016-05-31, 21:56
- Dude was totally on the phone when he wrote that. - Claude Errera, 2016-05-31, 22:35
- You think that's bad? -
CyberKN,
2016-05-31, 21:21
- I agree with this so much -
Cody Miller,
2016-05-31, 22:43
- I agree with this so much -
Kahzgul,
2016-05-31, 22:52
- I agree with this so much -
Cody Miller,
2016-05-31, 23:02
- I agree with this so much - Kahzgul, 2016-06-01, 15:16
- I agree with this so much -
Cody Miller,
2016-05-31, 23:02
- I agree with this so much -
Kahzgul,
2016-05-31, 22:52
- I agree with this so much -
uberfoop,
2016-05-31, 21:12
- I agree with this so much - Kahzgul, 2016-05-31, 21:55
- I agree with this so much -
Cody Miller,
2016-05-31, 19:13
- I agree with this so much -
Kahzgul,
2016-05-31, 18:46
- I agree with this so much -
Cody Miller,
2016-05-31, 13:47
- Duh -
Claude Errera,
2016-05-30, 17:18
- Duh -
Cody Miller,
2016-05-30, 16:22
- "Pushing" -
someotherguy,
2016-05-31, 15:13
- "Pushing" -
Cody Miller,
2016-05-31, 15:45
- "Pushing" - someotherguy, 2016-05-31, 16:15
- Sir Francis', Nate's, and Cutter's Journals... - Korny, 2016-05-31, 16:29
- "Pushing" - uberfoop, 2016-05-31, 16:43
- "Pushing" -
Cody Miller,
2016-05-31, 15:45
- Duh -
cheapLEY,
2016-05-30, 16:15
- Overwatch -
Kahzgul,
2016-05-31, 12:53
- Me too -
Blackt1g3r,
2016-05-31, 13:04
- The game with no campaign has more story than Destiny -
Avateur,
2016-06-01, 01:40
- Yeah, Titanfall was awesome. - Kahzgul, 2016-06-01, 21:28
- The game with no campaign has more story than Destiny -
Avateur,
2016-06-01, 01:40
- Me too -
Blackt1g3r,
2016-05-31, 13:04
- Duh -
Cody Miller,
2016-05-30, 16:11
- The ads for this film been showing for the last 2 weeks -
Raflection,
2016-05-30, 18:06
- It's supposed to be good for the fans but not normal people. - Funkmon, 2016-05-30, 19:06
- Duh -
CyberKN,
2016-05-30, 15:33