And thank YOU for that... (Gaming)
Confounded. So, what *is* journalism, then?
A journalist write and reports NEWS. Things that MATTER. They could matter on a local, state, national, or international level, but they are important things that affect lives.Entertainment almost by definition doesn't 'matter'. This doesn't mean that things that deal with the entertainment industry and not news. For instance, the recent pieces about the rampant pedophilia in Hollywood is journalism. Reporting on a leaked script or why so and so was fired is not.
EA spouse is the closest thing I can think of to an honest to goodness piece of journalism about video games.
Now that I understand how you're defining journalism, I can completely ignore this thread, because your reality and mine are far enough apart here that this is irrelevant to me. ;)
I want to make it clear that I do not place journalism higher than other writing in terms of value. For instance, game and film criticism, philosophy, hobby enthusiast writing, etc is valuable too. It's just not journalism. Not being journalism does not automatically make you 'less than'. I think you can learn a lot more things of value reading philosophy than the news for example.
Yeah, all of that is beside the point. The point was, you made a statement about journalism, which made no sense to me, until you defined what 'journalism' meant to you, at which point your statement became something I could agree with.In simpler terms, an analogy:
You said "Birds can't fly."
I thought to myself, "well, that makes no sense."
You said "Birds, as I define them, are ostriches."
I thought to myself, "oh, okay, with his limited definition, I can buy into his first statement."
Conversation over. ;)
"Birds are Ostriches" is going to be the name of my new experimental post-punk band ;)
Complete thread:
- I'm confused about Kotaku. -
cheapLEY,
2016-06-01, 01:39
- I'm confused about Kotaku. -
Speedracer513,
2016-06-01, 01:59
- I'm confused about Kotaku. -
Funkmon,
2016-06-01, 04:32
- You know it's bad when this guy ^ gets offended -
Robot Chickens,
2016-06-01, 05:24
- They treat people like they're dumb sometimes. :( - Funkmon, 2016-06-01, 08:33
- I'm confused about Kotaku. -
Cody Miller,
2016-06-01, 05:32
- I'm confused about Kotaku. -
Kahzgul,
2016-06-01, 14:45
- I'm confused about Kotaku. -
Cody Miller,
2016-06-01, 15:20
- I'm confused by Codytaku -
someotherguy,
2016-06-01, 15:31
- I'm confused by Codytaku -
SonofMacPhisto,
2016-06-02, 00:56
- TIL . . . -
cheapLEY,
2016-06-02, 01:09
- Using dictionaries doesn't help in cases like these. -
Funkmon,
2016-06-02, 08:39
- Possibly my favourite sentence ever. - someotherguy, 2016-06-02, 11:43
- Using dictionaries doesn't help in cases like these. -
cheapLEY,
2016-06-02, 17:16
- Using dictionaries doesn't help in cases like these. - CruelLEGACEY, 2016-06-02, 17:25
- Using dictionaries doesn't help in cases like these. -
Funkmon,
2016-06-02, 17:55
- We still exist. -
Vortech,
2016-06-02, 19:26
- That's simply not possible to do with dictionaries. -
Funkmon,
2016-06-03, 00:10
- TIL. -
cheapLEY,
2016-06-03, 01:06
- +1 -
ZackDark,
2016-06-03, 01:15
- Images and video (!) of commentary from the OED. -
Funkmon,
2016-06-03, 03:53
- You and I have very different definitions of "manageable" -
ZackDark,
2016-06-03, 03:54
- At minimum size, the entry is still too large to capture. -
Funkmon,
2016-06-03, 04:03
- At minimum size, the entry is still too large to capture. -
Vortech,
2016-06-03, 16:21
- No. The entry is 211k characters. ~70 pages long. -
Funkmon,
2016-06-03, 18:43
- Well, for a first read, yeah - ZackDark, 2016-06-03, 19:55
- No. The entry is 211k characters. ~70 pages long. -
Funkmon,
2016-06-03, 18:43
- At minimum size, the entry is still too large to capture. -
Vortech,
2016-06-03, 16:21
- At minimum size, the entry is still too large to capture. -
Funkmon,
2016-06-03, 04:03
- You and I have very different definitions of "manageable" -
ZackDark,
2016-06-03, 03:54
- Images and video (!) of commentary from the OED. -
Funkmon,
2016-06-03, 03:53
- +1 -
ZackDark,
2016-06-03, 01:15
- Tl:dr? -
ProbablyLast,
2016-06-03, 02:12
- Tl:dr: it hasn't for 250 years. - Funkmon, 2016-06-03, 04:19
- Sort of random tangent . . . -
cheapLEY,
2016-06-03, 02:47
- Sort of random tangent . . . - ZackDark, 2016-06-03, 02:55
- When it's used as its own word often it gets an entry *IMG*. - Funkmon, 2016-06-03, 03:25
- That's simply not possible to do with dictionaries. -
Vortech,
2016-06-03, 16:27
- That's simply not possible to do with dictionaries. -
Robot Chickens,
2016-06-03, 16:57
- +1 for the Funkmon continuum - ZackDark, 2016-06-03, 18:26
- You probably made his week. - ProbablyLast, 2016-06-03, 17:54
- I didn't spend much time on it. - Funkmon, 2016-06-03, 18:55
- That's simply not possible to do with dictionaries. -
Robot Chickens,
2016-06-03, 16:57
- TIL. -
cheapLEY,
2016-06-03, 01:06
- That's simply not possible to do with dictionaries. -
Funkmon,
2016-06-03, 00:10
- We still exist. -
Vortech,
2016-06-02, 19:26
- TIL . . . - SonofMacPhisto, 2016-06-03, 14:40
- Using dictionaries doesn't help in cases like these. -
Funkmon,
2016-06-02, 08:39
- TIL . . . -
cheapLEY,
2016-06-02, 01:09
- I'm confused by Codytaku -
SonofMacPhisto,
2016-06-02, 00:56
- Journalism doesn't have to be "good" to be journalism. - CruelLEGACEY, 2016-06-01, 15:39
- I'm confused about Kotaku. - cheapLEY, 2016-06-02, 14:41
- I'm confused by Codytaku -
someotherguy,
2016-06-01, 15:31
- I'm confused about Kotaku. -
Cody Miller,
2016-06-01, 15:20
- I'm confused about Kotaku. -
Vortech,
2016-06-01, 19:48
- I'd read a magazine only about vans. -
Funkmon,
2016-06-01, 20:54
- Dunno - ZackDark, 2016-06-01, 22:31
- White, windowless, and unmarked, I assume? - Vortech, 2016-06-01, 22:40
- I'd read a magazine only about vans. - cheapLEY, 2016-06-01, 23:09
- I'm confused about Kotaku. -
Cody Miller,
2016-06-02, 16:40
- Thank you for this. -
Claude Errera,
2016-06-02, 16:44
- Thank you for this. -
Cody Miller,
2016-06-02, 16:50
- Thank you for this. -
Claude Errera,
2016-06-02, 18:12
- And thank YOU for that... -
CruelLEGACEY,
2016-06-02, 20:20
- And thank YOU for that... -
Cody Miller,
2016-06-02, 20:21
- And thank YOU for that... -
Claude Errera,
2016-06-02, 20:31
- And thank YOU for that... -
Cody Miller,
2016-06-02, 20:41
- And thank YOU for that... -
Claude Errera,
2016-06-02, 21:13
- And thank YOU for that... -
CruelLEGACEY,
2016-06-02, 21:19
- lol - Claude Errera, 2016-06-02, 21:24
- And thank YOU for that... -
CruelLEGACEY,
2016-06-02, 21:19
- And thank YOU for that... -
Claude Errera,
2016-06-02, 21:13
- And thank YOU for that... -
Cody Miller,
2016-06-02, 20:41
- And thank YOU for that... -
Claude Errera,
2016-06-02, 20:31
- And thank YOU for that... -
Cody Miller,
2016-06-02, 20:21
- Thank you for this. -
Cody Miller,
2016-06-02, 20:43
- Thank you for this. -
Claude Errera,
2016-06-02, 21:16
- Just in case... -
Claude Errera,
2016-06-02, 21:19
- Just in case... -
CyberKN,
2016-06-02, 21:21
- +1. For the laugh. - Claude Errera, 2016-06-02, 21:25
- Just in case... -
Vortech,
2016-06-02, 21:34
- Just in case... - Claude Errera, 2016-06-02, 22:07
- Just in case... -
CyberKN,
2016-06-02, 21:21
- Just in case... -
Claude Errera,
2016-06-02, 21:19
- Thank you for this. -
Claude Errera,
2016-06-02, 21:16
- And thank YOU for that... -
CruelLEGACEY,
2016-06-02, 20:20
- Thank you for this. -
Claude Errera,
2016-06-02, 18:12
- Thank you for this. -
Cody Miller,
2016-06-02, 16:50
- I'm confused about Kotaku. - Vortech, 2016-06-02, 19:34
- Thank you for this. -
Claude Errera,
2016-06-02, 16:44
- I'd read a magazine only about vans. -
Funkmon,
2016-06-01, 20:54
- I'm confused about Kotaku. - narcogen, 2016-06-01, 23:16
- The words I'm searching for I can't say because... - Ragashingo, 2016-06-02, 15:03
- I'm confused about Kotaku. -
Kahzgul,
2016-06-01, 14:45
- What Funk and Speed said - CruelLEGACEY, 2016-06-01, 11:34
- I'm confused about Kotaku. -
narcogen,
2016-06-01, 23:15
- I didn't say it was thorough investigative reporting. - Funkmon, 2016-06-02, 08:52
- Y'all have some unexpected definitions of journalism. -
Vortech,
2016-06-02, 19:19
- So does wikipedia, apparently, as well as my J-school profs. - narcogen, 2016-06-03, 03:17
- You know it's bad when this guy ^ gets offended -
Robot Chickens,
2016-06-01, 05:24
- I'm confused about Kotaku. -
Funkmon,
2016-06-01, 04:32
- Here, let me help: -
CyberKN,
2016-06-01, 02:44
- Here, let me help: - Kahzgul, 2016-06-01, 14:47
- That signal to noise ratio... - someotherguy, 2016-06-01, 15:05
- It is still terrible. - ProbablyLast, 2016-06-01, 02:47
- Kotaku (and Io9, and everything else Gawker Media) -
Durandal,
2016-06-01, 11:02
- Kotaku (and Io9, and everything else Gawker Media) -
Quirel,
2016-06-02, 02:56
- Kotaku (and Io9, and everything else Gawker Media) - Durandal, 2016-06-02, 15:15
- Kotaku (and Io9, and everything else Gawker Media) -
Quirel,
2016-06-02, 02:56
- Kotaku are confusing -
someotherguy,
2016-06-01, 12:47
- Kotaku are confusing -
Xenos,
2016-06-01, 15:45
- "Journalistic Crusade! But also look at dis dog LOLOL" -
someotherguy,
2016-06-01, 15:47
- Also, more amusing than anything... -
Xenos,
2016-06-01, 15:49
- Also, more amusing than anything... - cheapLEY, 2016-06-01, 16:39
- Also, more amusing than anything... -
Xenos,
2016-06-01, 15:49
- "Journalistic Crusade! But also look at dis dog LOLOL" -
someotherguy,
2016-06-01, 15:47
- Kotaku are confusing -
Xenos,
2016-06-01, 15:45
- I'm confused about Kotaku. - Fire Opal, 2016-06-02, 12:58
- I'm confused about Kotaku. -
Speedracer513,
2016-06-01, 01:59