People aren't objecting to valid uses of the model (Destiny)
by Cody Miller 
, Music of the Spheres - Never Forgot, Sunday, October 01, 2017, 20:48 (2689 days ago) @ narcogen
It is a disingenuous reframing of the argument to say people object to microtransactions.
People mostly object to microtransactions in full priced titles, or titles that are not free, freemium, etc.
Again, it confuses the way that microtransactions and pay to play affect game design. Paying a quarter to play till you died IMPROVED game design. Selling microtransactions makes game design WORSE, since you must make 'frictions' so people will actually buy them.
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- It's a valid business model -
Revenant1988,
2017-10-01, 07:30
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- >Implying arcades represent "The good old days" of gaming -
CyberKN,
2017-10-01, 07:56
- +1 - cheapLEY, 2017-10-01, 08:16
- >Implying arcades represent "The good old days" of gaming -
Korny,
2017-10-01, 08:21
- >Implying arcades represent "The good old days" of gaming -
CyberKN,
2017-10-01, 09:59
- >Implying arcades represent "The good old days" of gaming - Revenant1988, 2017-10-01, 11:03
- >Implying arcades represent "The good old days" of gaming -
CyberKN,
2017-10-01, 09:59
- >Implying arcades represent "The good old days" of gaming -
Grizzlei,
2017-10-01, 08:26
- >Implying arcades represent "The good old days" of gaming - Korny, 2017-10-01, 09:28
- >Implying arcades represent "The good old days" of gaming - slycrel, 2017-10-02, 10:36
- It's a valid business model - Cody Miller, 2017-10-01, 11:48
- They are actually complete opposites -
Cody Miller,
2017-10-01, 14:07
- Except the example is buying more lives, just like an arcade
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Harmanimus,
2017-10-05, 09:42
- Except the example is buying more lives, just like an arcade
- People aren't objecting to valid uses of the model -
narcogen,
2017-10-01, 19:47
- People aren't objecting to valid uses of the model -
Cody Miller,
2017-10-01, 20:48
- People aren't objecting to valid uses of the model -
ZackDark,
2017-10-02, 05:59
- You didn't OWN the arcade - Schedonnardus, 2017-10-02, 06:36
- People aren't objecting to valid uses of the model -
Vortech,
2017-10-02, 13:18
- People aren't objecting to valid uses of the model -
Cody Miller,
2017-10-02, 14:19
- People aren't objecting to valid uses of the model -
MacAddictXIV,
2017-10-03, 13:23
- People aren't objecting to valid uses of the model -
Cody Miller,
2017-10-03, 13:55
- People aren't objecting to valid uses of the model -
ZackDark,
2017-10-03, 14:54
- People aren't objecting to valid uses of the model -
Cody Miller,
2017-10-03, 15:06
- People aren't objecting to valid uses of the model -
cheapLEY,
2017-10-03, 16:26
- People aren't objecting to valid uses of the model -
Cody Miller,
2017-10-03, 16:49
- People aren't objecting to valid uses of the model -
CruelLEGACEY,
2017-10-03, 16:59
- People aren't objecting to valid uses of the model -
Cody Miller,
2017-10-03, 17:08
- People aren't objecting to valid uses of the model -
cheapLEY,
2017-10-03, 17:27
- People aren't objecting to valid uses of the model -
Cody Miller,
2017-10-03, 17:29
- People aren't objecting to valid uses of the model - cheapLEY, 2017-10-03, 17:44
- People aren't objecting to valid uses of the model -
RaichuKFM,
2017-10-03, 17:58
- People aren't objecting to valid uses of the model -
Cody Miller,
2017-10-04, 11:29
- People aren't objecting to valid uses of the model -
RaichuKFM,
2017-10-04, 11:55
- People aren't objecting to valid uses of the model -
Cody Miller,
2017-10-04, 12:05
- People aren't objecting to valid uses of the model - cheapLEY, 2017-10-04, 13:22
- People aren't objecting to valid uses of the model -
Cody Miller,
2017-10-04, 12:05
- People aren't objecting to valid uses of the model -
RaichuKFM,
2017-10-04, 11:55
- People aren't objecting to valid uses of the model -
Cody Miller,
2017-10-04, 11:29
- Well, yeah -
ZackDark,
2017-10-03, 18:12
- Differences between Expansions and Sequels -
Harmanimus,
2017-10-05, 10:15
- Differences between Expansions and Sequels -
ZackDark,
2017-10-05, 16:38
- Differences between Expansions and Sequels - Harmanimus, 2017-10-06, 22:07
- Differences between Expansions and Sequels -
Cody Miller,
2017-10-06, 22:20
- Not really - ZackDark, 2017-10-06, 23:18
- Differences between Expansions and Sequels -
ZackDark,
2017-10-05, 16:38
- Differences between Expansions and Sequels -
Harmanimus,
2017-10-05, 10:15
- People aren't objecting to valid uses of the model -
Cody Miller,
2017-10-03, 17:29
- People aren't objecting to valid uses of the model -
cheapLEY,
2017-10-03, 17:27
- People aren't objecting to valid uses of the model -
Cody Miller,
2017-10-03, 17:08
- People aren't objecting to valid uses of the model -
CruelLEGACEY,
2017-10-03, 16:59
- People aren't objecting to valid uses of the model - Claude Errera, 2017-10-03, 22:10
- People aren't objecting to valid uses of the model -
Cody Miller,
2017-10-03, 16:49
- People aren't objecting to valid uses of the model -
cheapLEY,
2017-10-03, 16:26
- People aren't objecting to valid uses of the model -
Cody Miller,
2017-10-03, 15:06
- People aren't objecting to valid uses of the model -
ZackDark,
2017-10-03, 14:54
- People aren't objecting to valid uses of the model -
Cody Miller,
2017-10-03, 13:55
- People aren't objecting to valid uses of the model -
MacAddictXIV,
2017-10-03, 13:23
- People aren't objecting to valid uses of the model -
Cody Miller,
2017-10-02, 14:19
- People aren't objecting to valid uses of the model -
ZackDark,
2017-10-02, 05:59
- People aren't objecting to valid uses of the model - Kahzgul, 2017-10-02, 00:52
- People aren't objecting to valid uses of the model - Kermit, 2017-10-02, 08:16
- People aren't objecting to valid uses of the model -
Cody Miller,
2017-10-01, 20:48
- >Implying arcades represent "The good old days" of gaming -
CyberKN,
2017-10-01, 07:56