People aren't objecting to valid uses of the model (Destiny)
by ZackDark 
, Not behind you. NO! Don't look., Monday, October 02, 2017, 05:59 (2689 days ago) @ Cody Miller
Again, it confuses the way that microtransactions and pay to play affect game design. Paying a quarter to play till you died IMPROVED game design. Selling microtransactions makes game design WORSE, since you must make 'frictions' so people will actually buy them.
Except for the "continue from this point, as opposed to the very start" mechanic, which can push the developer into making "memorize it or die" sequences. But yes, most microtransaction-focused games use them to justify the implementation of grinds. I don't think Destiny is one of them, but I can see the argument.
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- It's a valid business model -
Revenant1988,
2017-10-01, 07:30
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- >Implying arcades represent "The good old days" of gaming -
CyberKN,
2017-10-01, 07:56
- +1 - cheapLEY, 2017-10-01, 08:16
- >Implying arcades represent "The good old days" of gaming -
Korny,
2017-10-01, 08:21
- >Implying arcades represent "The good old days" of gaming -
CyberKN,
2017-10-01, 09:59
- >Implying arcades represent "The good old days" of gaming - Revenant1988, 2017-10-01, 11:03
- >Implying arcades represent "The good old days" of gaming -
CyberKN,
2017-10-01, 09:59
- >Implying arcades represent "The good old days" of gaming -
Grizzlei,
2017-10-01, 08:26
- >Implying arcades represent "The good old days" of gaming - Korny, 2017-10-01, 09:28
- >Implying arcades represent "The good old days" of gaming - slycrel, 2017-10-02, 10:36
- It's a valid business model - Cody Miller, 2017-10-01, 11:48
- They are actually complete opposites -
Cody Miller,
2017-10-01, 14:07
- Except the example is buying more lives, just like an arcade
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Harmanimus,
2017-10-05, 09:42
- Except the example is buying more lives, just like an arcade
- People aren't objecting to valid uses of the model -
narcogen,
2017-10-01, 19:47
- People aren't objecting to valid uses of the model -
Cody Miller,
2017-10-01, 20:48
- People aren't objecting to valid uses of the model -
ZackDark,
2017-10-02, 05:59
- You didn't OWN the arcade - Schedonnardus, 2017-10-02, 06:36
- People aren't objecting to valid uses of the model -
Vortech,
2017-10-02, 13:18
- People aren't objecting to valid uses of the model -
Cody Miller,
2017-10-02, 14:19
- People aren't objecting to valid uses of the model -
MacAddictXIV,
2017-10-03, 13:23
- People aren't objecting to valid uses of the model -
Cody Miller,
2017-10-03, 13:55
- People aren't objecting to valid uses of the model -
ZackDark,
2017-10-03, 14:54
- People aren't objecting to valid uses of the model -
Cody Miller,
2017-10-03, 15:06
- People aren't objecting to valid uses of the model -
cheapLEY,
2017-10-03, 16:26
- People aren't objecting to valid uses of the model -
Cody Miller,
2017-10-03, 16:49
- People aren't objecting to valid uses of the model -
CruelLEGACEY,
2017-10-03, 16:59
- People aren't objecting to valid uses of the model -
Cody Miller,
2017-10-03, 17:08
- People aren't objecting to valid uses of the model -
cheapLEY,
2017-10-03, 17:27
- People aren't objecting to valid uses of the model -
Cody Miller,
2017-10-03, 17:29
- People aren't objecting to valid uses of the model - cheapLEY, 2017-10-03, 17:44
- People aren't objecting to valid uses of the model -
RaichuKFM,
2017-10-03, 17:58
- People aren't objecting to valid uses of the model -
Cody Miller,
2017-10-04, 11:29
- People aren't objecting to valid uses of the model -
RaichuKFM,
2017-10-04, 11:55
- People aren't objecting to valid uses of the model -
Cody Miller,
2017-10-04, 12:05
- People aren't objecting to valid uses of the model - cheapLEY, 2017-10-04, 13:22
- People aren't objecting to valid uses of the model -
Cody Miller,
2017-10-04, 12:05
- People aren't objecting to valid uses of the model -
RaichuKFM,
2017-10-04, 11:55
- People aren't objecting to valid uses of the model -
Cody Miller,
2017-10-04, 11:29
- Well, yeah -
ZackDark,
2017-10-03, 18:12
- Differences between Expansions and Sequels -
Harmanimus,
2017-10-05, 10:15
- Differences between Expansions and Sequels -
ZackDark,
2017-10-05, 16:38
- Differences between Expansions and Sequels - Harmanimus, 2017-10-06, 22:07
- Differences between Expansions and Sequels -
Cody Miller,
2017-10-06, 22:20
- Not really - ZackDark, 2017-10-06, 23:18
- Differences between Expansions and Sequels -
ZackDark,
2017-10-05, 16:38
- Differences between Expansions and Sequels -
Harmanimus,
2017-10-05, 10:15
- People aren't objecting to valid uses of the model -
Cody Miller,
2017-10-03, 17:29
- People aren't objecting to valid uses of the model -
cheapLEY,
2017-10-03, 17:27
- People aren't objecting to valid uses of the model -
Cody Miller,
2017-10-03, 17:08
- People aren't objecting to valid uses of the model -
CruelLEGACEY,
2017-10-03, 16:59
- People aren't objecting to valid uses of the model - Claude Errera, 2017-10-03, 22:10
- People aren't objecting to valid uses of the model -
Cody Miller,
2017-10-03, 16:49
- People aren't objecting to valid uses of the model -
cheapLEY,
2017-10-03, 16:26
- People aren't objecting to valid uses of the model -
Cody Miller,
2017-10-03, 15:06
- People aren't objecting to valid uses of the model -
ZackDark,
2017-10-03, 14:54
- People aren't objecting to valid uses of the model -
Cody Miller,
2017-10-03, 13:55
- People aren't objecting to valid uses of the model -
MacAddictXIV,
2017-10-03, 13:23
- People aren't objecting to valid uses of the model -
Cody Miller,
2017-10-02, 14:19
- People aren't objecting to valid uses of the model -
ZackDark,
2017-10-02, 05:59
- People aren't objecting to valid uses of the model - Kahzgul, 2017-10-02, 00:52
- People aren't objecting to valid uses of the model - Kermit, 2017-10-02, 08:16
- People aren't objecting to valid uses of the model -
Cody Miller,
2017-10-01, 20:48
- >Implying arcades represent "The good old days" of gaming -
CyberKN,
2017-10-01, 07:56