Pretty close to how I see it. (Destiny)
Note that when I mention abolitionists and civil rights advocates, I'm not just talking about those who were minorities. I certainly believe that the success of the 1960s civil rights movement owes a great debt to MLK's religious appeal to a mostly religious country. Successful non-violent revolutions depend on those with power having a conscience. I have to ask, based on your post, what is the other side of the non-violent revolution coin? I'm really having trouble parsing this sentence: "That just makes your minorities bloodthirsty savages." I don't know what "that" or "your minorities" refers to. The Vox uprising in the game is an amalgam--there are obvious similarities to Nat Turner's rebellion and to the Boshevik revolution, both of which were pretty freaking bloody.
The Vox and Founders do not have a master slave relationship, so Nat Turner is irrelevant. It completely parallels the situation of blacks in the USA in the mid century, so Boshevik is irrelevant. I mean dude, the game is drenched with historical Americana and notions of white superiority.
But it ignores the reality of how the civil rights movement in America was actually won. The way the Vox behaved… perhaps the founders were right to oppress them. That's what's uncomfortable. The game cops out by saying both sides are equally bad. That's a chickenshit way to make a game that aspires to great ideas.
Complete thread:
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Morpheus,
2017-10-12, 23:24
- Double Des2ny Reviews - Kahzgul, 2017-10-13, 14:43
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Cody Miller,
2017-10-13, 17:01
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cheapLEY,
2017-10-13, 17:29
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Cody Miller,
2017-10-13, 19:22
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cheapLEY,
2017-10-13, 19:25
- Double Des2ny Reviews - Cody Miller, 2017-10-14, 09:57
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cheapLEY,
2017-10-13, 19:25
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Cody Miller,
2017-10-13, 19:22
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Ragashingo,
2017-10-13, 18:33
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Cody Miller,
2017-10-13, 19:19
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Ragashingo,
2017-10-13, 19:41
- Double Des2ny Reviews - Cody Miller, 2017-10-13, 22:57
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Ragashingo,
2017-10-13, 19:41
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SonofMacPhisto,
2017-10-13, 20:03
- Double Des2ny Reviews - Ragashingo, 2017-10-13, 20:20
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RaichuKFM,
2017-10-13, 21:15
- +1 - cheapLEY, 2017-10-13, 21:56
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Avateur,
2017-10-13, 23:19
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Ragashingo,
2017-10-14, 00:22
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Kahzgul,
2017-10-14, 03:57
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SonofMacPhisto,
2017-10-15, 00:06
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Avateur,
2017-10-15, 00:51
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Ragashingo,
2017-10-15, 07:20
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SonofMacPhisto,
2017-10-15, 07:22
- You’re being absurd. Good day, sir. - Ragashingo, 2017-10-15, 07:28
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cheapLEY,
2017-10-15, 08:33
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Ragashingo,
2017-10-15, 12:12
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Malagate,
2017-10-16, 12:31
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Kermit,
2017-10-16, 12:36
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cheapLEY,
2017-10-16, 14:01
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Robot Chickens,
2017-10-16, 14:28
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Malagate,
2017-10-17, 07:33
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Cody Miller,
2017-10-17, 09:12
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Malagate,
2017-10-17, 09:15
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Robot Chickens,
2017-10-17, 10:15
- Double Des2ny Reviews - Cody Miller, 2017-10-17, 10:41
- Lets explore Bioshock Infinite a bit more :) -
breitzen,
2017-10-17, 10:55
- Pretty close to how I see it. -
Malagate,
2017-10-17, 11:03
- Pretty close to how I see it. -
breitzen,
2017-10-17, 11:06
- Not enough people got into the whole Twins subplot. -
Malagate,
2017-10-17, 11:11
- Yeah. It was pretty subtle. - breitzen, 2017-10-17, 11:21
- Pretty close to how I see it. -
Cody Miller,
2017-10-17, 11:20
- That's disappointing. - breitzen, 2017-10-17, 11:25
- Pretty close to how I see it. -
Kermit,
2017-10-17, 13:04
- I object. Vehemently! -
Ragashingo,
2017-10-17, 13:25
- When I hear Kerm - MacAddictXIV, 2017-10-17, 13:39
- I object. Vehemently! - Korny, 2017-10-17, 14:14
- Pretty close to how I see it. -
Cody Miller,
2017-10-17, 17:43
- Pretty close to how I see it. - Ragashingo, 2017-10-17, 18:10
- Pretty close to how I see it. -
Kermit,
2017-10-23, 20:15
- Pretty close to how I see it. -
Cody Miller,
2017-10-24, 00:56
- Pretty close to how I see it. -
Kermit,
2017-10-24, 18:24
- Pretty close to how I see it. -
Cody Miller,
2017-10-24, 18:28
- Pretty close to how I see it. -
Kermit,
2017-10-24, 18:49
- Pretty close to how I see it. -
Cody Miller,
2017-10-24, 18:55
- Pretty close to how I see it. - Kermit, 2017-10-24, 19:14
- Pretty close to how I see it. -
Ragashingo,
2017-10-24, 19:10
- That's a good way to put it. - Kermit, 2017-10-24, 19:16
- Pretty close to how I see it. -
Cody Miller,
2017-10-24, 18:55
- Pretty close to how I see it. -
Kermit,
2017-10-24, 18:49
- Pretty close to how I see it. -
Cody Miller,
2017-10-24, 18:28
- Pretty close to how I see it. -
Kermit,
2017-10-24, 18:24
- Pretty close to how I see it. -
Cody Miller,
2017-10-24, 00:56
- I object. Vehemently! -
Ragashingo,
2017-10-17, 13:25
- Not enough people got into the whole Twins subplot. -
Malagate,
2017-10-17, 11:11
- Pretty close to how I see it. -
breitzen,
2017-10-17, 11:06
- Lets explore Bioshock Infinite a bit more :) -
Robot Chickens,
2017-10-17, 12:10
- Lets explore Bioshock Infinite a bit more :) -
Malagate,
2017-10-17, 12:21
- Lets explore Bioshock Infinite a bit more :) - Robot Chickens, 2017-10-17, 13:05
- Lets explore Bioshock Infinite a bit more :) -
breitzen,
2017-10-17, 12:45
- Lets explore Bioshock Infinite a bit more :) -
Robot Chickens,
2017-10-17, 13:46
- Hurray for us! -
breitzen,
2017-10-17, 14:16
- Wait, I thought it meant you had to drink...? -
Claude Errera,
2017-10-17, 14:17
- Sure. If someone wants to cuddle. -
breitzen,
2017-10-17, 14:24
- Sure. If someone wants to cuddle. -
Grizzlei,
2017-10-17, 14:30
- Sure. If someone wants to cuddle. -
breitzen,
2017-10-17, 14:41
- Sorry Morpheus? -
Robot Chickens,
2017-10-17, 14:48
- Not A Problem. - Morpheus, 2017-10-18, 18:03
- Sorry Morpheus? -
Robot Chickens,
2017-10-17, 14:48
- Sure. If someone wants to cuddle. -
breitzen,
2017-10-17, 14:41
- Sure. If someone wants to cuddle. -
Grizzlei,
2017-10-17, 14:30
- Seems like that could endanger or enhance the outcome. - Robot Chickens, 2017-10-17, 14:29
- Sure. If someone wants to cuddle. -
breitzen,
2017-10-17, 14:24
- Wait, I thought it meant you had to drink...? -
Claude Errera,
2017-10-17, 14:17
- Hurray for us! -
breitzen,
2017-10-17, 14:16
- Lets explore Bioshock Infinite a bit more :) -
Robot Chickens,
2017-10-17, 13:46
- Lets explore Bioshock Infinite a bit more :) -
Malagate,
2017-10-17, 12:21
- Placeholder Response. - Ragashingo, 2017-10-17, 13:19
- Pretty close to how I see it. -
Malagate,
2017-10-17, 11:03
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Robot Chickens,
2017-10-17, 10:15
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Malagate,
2017-10-17, 09:15
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Cody Miller,
2017-10-17, 09:12
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Malagate,
2017-10-17, 07:33
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Robot Chickens,
2017-10-16, 14:28
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Kermit,
2017-10-16, 12:36
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Ragashingo,
2017-10-15, 12:12
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SonofMacPhisto,
2017-10-15, 07:22
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Ragashingo,
2017-10-15, 07:20
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Avateur,
2017-10-15, 00:51
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SonofMacPhisto,
2017-10-15, 00:06
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Kahzgul,
2017-10-14, 03:57
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2017-10-14, 00:22
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2017-10-13, 19:19
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cheapLEY,
2017-10-13, 17:29
- When did we start actively trying to out-asshole each other? -
Robot Chickens,
2017-10-15, 08:48
- Seriously. "Don't be a douche." It's not that hard, people.. -
Korny,
2017-10-15, 09:00
- It is hard. -
cheapLEY,
2017-10-15, 16:58
- It is hard. - Kahzgul, 2017-10-16, 02:18
- It is hard. -
cheapLEY,
2017-10-15, 16:58
- You're not the only one. -
Malagate,
2017-10-16, 13:02
- You're not the only one. -
Kermit,
2017-10-16, 13:27
- You're not the only one. -
Malagate,
2017-10-16, 13:49
- You're not the only one. -
Cody Miller,
2017-10-16, 13:51
- You're not the only one. -
Malagate,
2017-10-16, 13:55
- You're not the only one. -
CruelLEGACEY,
2017-10-16, 14:34
- You're not the only one. -
Ragashingo,
2017-10-16, 14:53
- +1 to both of you - Robot Chickens, 2017-10-16, 15:39
- It's weird - RaichuKFM, 2017-10-16, 15:58
- You're not the only one. - Kermit, 2017-10-16, 17:36
- You're not the only one. -
Malagate,
2017-10-17, 07:51
- <3 - CruelLEGACEY, 2017-10-17, 08:00
- You're not the only one. -
Ragashingo,
2017-10-16, 14:53
- You're not the only one. -
Cody Miller,
2017-10-16, 15:03
- You're not the only one. -
Kermit,
2017-10-16, 15:16
- BALANCE! lol - CruelLEGACEY, 2017-10-16, 15:18
- You're not the only one. - Ragashingo, 2017-10-16, 15:21
- +1 - RaichuKFM, 2017-10-16, 15:53
- You're not the only one. -
Claude Errera,
2017-10-16, 16:01
- You're not the only one. -
Kermit,
2017-10-16, 16:22
- +7 :( - Pyromancy, 2017-10-16, 16:34
- You're not the only one. - Malagate, 2017-10-17, 08:05
- You're not the only one. -
Kermit,
2017-10-16, 16:22
- You're not the only one. -
Kermit,
2017-10-16, 15:16
- You're not the only one. -
CruelLEGACEY,
2017-10-16, 14:34
- For what it's worth - Robot Chickens, 2017-10-16, 15:59
- You're not the only one. -
Malagate,
2017-10-16, 13:55
- You're not the only one. - Kermit, 2017-10-16, 15:37
- You're not the only one. -
Cody Miller,
2017-10-16, 13:51
- You're not the only one. -
Ragashingo,
2017-10-16, 14:27
- +1 - RaichuKFM, 2017-10-16, 16:00
- You're not the only one. -
Robot Chickens,
2017-10-16, 18:52
- You're not the only one. -
Avateur,
2017-10-16, 22:55
- You're not the only one. -
Robot Chickens,
2017-10-17, 00:16
- You're not the only one. -
Avateur,
2017-10-17, 06:59
- You're not the only one. - Ragashingo, 2017-10-17, 09:26
- You're not the only one. -
Avateur,
2017-10-17, 06:59
- You're not the only one. -
Robot Chickens,
2017-10-17, 00:16
- You're not the only one. -
Avateur,
2017-10-16, 22:55
- You're not the only one. -
Malagate,
2017-10-16, 13:49
- You're not the only one. -
Kermit,
2017-10-16, 13:27
- Seriously. "Don't be a douche." It's not that hard, people.. -
Korny,
2017-10-15, 09:00
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Anton P. Nym (aka Steve),
2017-10-15, 10:37
- Mostly Yahtzee just wish all games were old games it seems -
Harmanimus,
2017-10-15, 10:39
- Mostly Yahtzee just wish all games were old games it seems -
Anton P. Nym (aka Steve),
2017-10-15, 11:59
- Mostly Yahtzee just wish all games were old games it seems -
Harmanimus,
2017-10-15, 22:54
- Mostly Yahtzee just wish all games were old games it seems -
Kahzgul,
2017-10-16, 02:16
- Yahtzee is "basically" the gaming equivalent of Cinema-Sins - breitzen, 2017-10-16, 06:40
- Mostly Yahtzee just wish all games were old games it seems -
Kahzgul,
2017-10-16, 02:16
- Mostly Yahtzee just wish all games were old games it seems -
Harmanimus,
2017-10-15, 22:54
- Mostly Yahtzee just wish all games were old games it seems -
Anton P. Nym (aka Steve),
2017-10-15, 11:59
- Mostly Yahtzee just wish all games were old games it seems -
Harmanimus,
2017-10-15, 10:39
- fun thread A+++ -
Miguel Chavez,
2017-10-16, 21:56
- WELCOME BACK! - Cody Miller, 2017-10-16, 21:57
- fun thread A+++ - Morpheus, 2017-10-18, 17:33