Those are all very nice examples of PC gameplay :-)

by JDQuackers , McMurray, PA, Thursday, February 21, 2013, 07:53 (4293 days ago) @ Beckx

Watch Dogs was PC, I've heard.

You'd have to be silly to think the first party devs are building on PC and porting to PS4. It's good to be suspicious of Guerilla after 2005, of course.

I'm not saying they are developing for PC then porting to PS4, but I mean that any demos or rendered videos were more than likely playing from a PC used to develop for PS4. The video output can be upscaled or rendered to a higher quality than playing from the actual system. You can overclock and beef-up the cooling capacity since it's not in a slim little sexy shell...

All I'm saying is that none of the games or footage shown can be guaranteed to have actually been running or rendered on the actual PS4. I think it's silly to presume otherwise since they obviously don't have it in a state that is ready to show off to the public. Anything at the presentation last night was development hardware at best, which is essentially a PC with very similar specs to the console in question.

But then again, in my twitter feed last night, someone claimed they were playing games that looked like this on their 2 year old PC. My PC is a beast. I have no doubt it will be able to do this - but no current game has been developed to look like it, because everything has been developed to current gen standards. Some GAF guys have gotten jaw-dropping Crysis 3 screenshots out of their rigs and they freely admit it dropped their FPS to below 10 to get them.

I dunno. To me new console announcements separate people with a lifelong love of games from the cynics and brand loyalists. (I'm not calling you either, BTW, but my feed last night was full of them - and the less said of the "HA HA HA NICE ENGRISH" assholes, the better.)

It's a new hardware cycle. And the first introduction is remarkably gamer focused with a minimum of fuck-you requirements (no prohibition on used games, for example, confirmed this morning). Let's have fun with it, not sneer at each other.

I'm very excited for PS4, and as long as it's not comparable in price to the PS3 when it launched, I'll gladly purchase it. That being said, I'm just wary of the presentation from last night, as for me it screams: "We're not really ready, but here's what we're aiming for."