Loved Oni. Not at all astounded. (Destiny)
Bungie has been telling fascinating stories up until Destiny. It's the first game that fails with that regard, as far as I'm concerned. I mean, maybe Minotaur had a sketchy plot? I didn't play that one. But Pathways was great, Marathon was inspired, and Halo was an obsession. Destiny is a flop. On the one hand, they can't all be winners, but on the other hand, Bungie seems to have lost track of what has, up until 2014, made their games stand out.
It was the design execution where Oni stood out to me. It feels so unlike their other games. Marathon had a terrific story, but you spent a lot of time reading, and that messed with the flow of the action I thought. Oni's pacing, its structure and story arc, its visual design and its conceptual tributes, were all married so well. It just clicked with me. Halo CE comes close for me, but it still feels like the other titles in their wheelhouse.I guess I was trying to say that Oni is just so left-field for them. Almost like a different studio.
Nah, some of those bits are still there. There are little touches of gameplay that remind me of Oni, for sure. Way more than I felt with Halo. The way the supers are handled really fleshes out the feeling of fighting in that space; but other things have grown into the DNA as well. A company is an organism.
I pointed out to the group I was playing with recently that the Axion Bolt is a lot like the screamer cannon from Oni. (Honestly, I wish they'd scream as they closed in on my targets. That would be great.)
I have to say that video really sewed the entire expansion together in a way that was more satisfying than the expansion "storyline" felt to me. And it threw into relief how the Hive and the Vex would be in ontological competition with each other. A war for existence itself.
That's the kind of hook I was looking for all along.
~m
Complete thread:
- Maybe this is why Bungie hates story-telling now? -
roland,
2015-02-06, 09:38
- Maybe this is why Bungie hates story-telling now? -
Blackt1g3r,
2015-02-06, 09:44
- Not a very big step... -
CruelLEGACEY,
2015-02-06, 10:22
- Not a very big step... -
Blackt1g3r,
2015-02-06, 10:41
- Not a very big step... - CruelLEGACEY, 2015-02-06, 10:46
- Not a very big step... -
stabbim,
2015-02-06, 11:45
- +1 -
Blackt1g3r,
2015-02-06, 12:30
- +1 - CruelLEGACEY, 2015-02-06, 15:46
- Not a very big step... - CruelLEGACEY, 2015-02-06, 15:45
- +1 -
Blackt1g3r,
2015-02-06, 12:30
- Not a very big step... -
Blackt1g3r,
2015-02-06, 10:41
- Not a very big step... -
CruelLEGACEY,
2015-02-06, 10:22
- Maybe this is why Bungie hates story-telling now? -
iconicbanana,
2015-02-06, 09:51
- Maybe this is why Bungie hates story-telling now? -
Kahzgul,
2015-02-06, 11:05
- Maybe this is why Bungie hates story-telling now? *edit -
iconicbanana,
2015-02-06, 11:14
- Maybe this is why Bungie hates story-telling now? *edit -
Kahzgul,
2015-02-06, 11:38
- It's astounding this studio made Oni. -
iconicbanana,
2015-02-06, 11:44
- Loved Oni. Not at all astounded. -
Kahzgul,
2015-02-06, 11:52
- Loved Oni. Not at all astounded. -
iconicbanana,
2015-02-06, 11:58
- Loved Oni. Not at all astounded. -
Malagate,
2015-02-06, 12:24
- This was the biggest missed opportunity in Destiny -
iconicbanana,
2015-02-06, 12:57
- This was the biggest missed opportunity in Destiny - Malagate, 2015-02-06, 13:12
- This was the biggest missed opportunity in Destiny -
Cody Miller,
2015-02-06, 15:04
- This was the biggest missed opportunity in Destiny -
Kermit,
2015-02-06, 15:22
- The patrol bounty name was a big hint. - iconicbanana, 2015-02-06, 15:23
- This was the biggest missed opportunity in Destiny -
Kermit,
2015-02-06, 15:22
- This was the biggest missed opportunity in Destiny -
iconicbanana,
2015-02-06, 12:57
- Loved Oni. Not at all astounded. - Claude Errera, 2015-02-06, 18:20
- Loved Oni. Not at all astounded. -
Malagate,
2015-02-06, 12:24
- Loved Oni. Not at all astounded. -
iconicbanana,
2015-02-06, 11:58
- Technically - Blackt1g3r, 2015-02-06, 12:27
- It's astounding this studio made Oni. -
Cody Miller,
2015-02-06, 14:37
- I was a boss at Oni and it enriched the experience immensely -
iconicbanana,
2015-02-06, 15:20
- I was a boss at Oni and it enriched the experience immensely -
Ragashingo,
2015-02-06, 16:00
- I was a boss at Oni and it enriched the experience immensely - iconicbanana, 2015-02-06, 16:34
- I was a boss at Oni and it enriched the experience immensely -
Ragashingo,
2015-02-06, 16:00
- I was a boss at Oni and it enriched the experience immensely -
iconicbanana,
2015-02-06, 15:20
- Loved Oni. Not at all astounded. -
Kahzgul,
2015-02-06, 11:52
- It's astounding this studio made Oni. -
iconicbanana,
2015-02-06, 11:44
- Starcraft Manual -
Cody Miller,
2015-02-06, 15:08
- Starcraft Manual -
General Battuta,
2015-02-06, 19:38
- Any Blizzard Manual -
iconicbanana,
2015-02-06, 20:39
- I see you the Blizzard Manuals... -
Quirel,
2015-02-07, 00:25
- I see you the Blizzard Manuals... - General Battuta, 2015-02-07, 14:43
- Any Blizzard Manual - Blackt1g3r, 2015-02-11, 12:23
- I see you the Blizzard Manuals... -
Quirel,
2015-02-07, 00:25
- Any Blizzard Manual -
iconicbanana,
2015-02-06, 20:39
- Starcraft Manual -
General Battuta,
2015-02-06, 19:38
- Maybe this is why Bungie hates story-telling now? *edit -
Kahzgul,
2015-02-06, 11:38
- *sad, begrudging thumbs up* - Ouranje, 2015-02-06, 11:15
- Maybe this is why Bungie hates story-telling now? -
Kermit,
2015-02-06, 11:58
- Maybe this is why Bungie hates story-telling now? -
Kahzgul,
2015-02-06, 12:18
- Maybe this is why Bungie hates story-telling now? -
Kermit,
2015-02-06, 14:35
- Maybe this is why Bungie hates story-telling now? - Kahzgul, 2015-02-06, 22:38
- Maybe this is why Bungie hates story-telling now? -
Kermit,
2015-02-06, 14:35
- Maybe this is why Bungie hates story-telling now? -
Kahzgul,
2015-02-06, 12:18
- Maybe this is why Bungie hates story-telling now? *edit -
iconicbanana,
2015-02-06, 11:14
- Maybe this is why Bungie hates story-telling now? -
Kahzgul,
2015-02-06, 11:05
- Maybe this is why Bungie hates story-telling now? -
Cody Miller,
2015-02-06, 10:21
- Maybe this is why Bungie hates story-telling now? -
Ragashingo,
2015-02-06, 10:31
- Maybe this is why Bungie hates story-telling now? -
yakaman,
2015-02-06, 11:52
- Maybe this is why Bungie hates story-telling now? - Ragashingo, 2015-02-06, 13:02
- Maybe this is why Bungie hates story-telling now? -
yakaman,
2015-02-06, 11:52
- +1 - INSANEdrive, 2015-02-06, 11:04
- Maybe this is why Bungie hates story-telling now? -
roland,
2015-02-06, 13:42
- Maybe this is why Bungie hates story-telling now? -
ckamp,
2015-02-06, 13:53
- Maybe this is why Bungie hates story-telling now? -
roland,
2015-02-06, 13:57
- The more you know... - ckamp, 2015-02-06, 13:59
- Maybe this is why Bungie hates story-telling now? -
roland,
2015-02-06, 13:57
- Maybe this is why Bungie hates story-telling now? -
ckamp,
2015-02-06, 13:53
- Maybe this is why Bungie hates story-telling now? -
Ragashingo,
2015-02-06, 10:31
- Maybe this is why Bungie hates story-telling now? -
Ragashingo,
2015-02-06, 10:23
- Maybe this is why Bungie hates story-telling now? -
Kahzgul,
2015-02-06, 11:48
- Maybe this is why Bungie hates story-telling now? -
Ragashingo,
2015-02-06, 12:39
- Maybe this is why Bungie hates story-telling now? -
Malagate,
2015-02-06, 13:06
- The Library displayed brilliant in-game storytelling -
ckamp,
2015-02-06, 13:52
- Persistent World Issues. -
iconicbanana,
2015-02-06, 13:59
- Persistent World Issues. -
ckamp,
2015-02-06, 14:17
- Persistent World Issues. -
iconicbanana,
2015-02-06, 14:19
- The sad thing here... -
Kahzgul,
2015-02-06, 14:23
- Future War Cult. - Ragashingo, 2015-02-06, 14:56
- The sad thing here... -
Kahzgul,
2015-02-06, 14:23
- Persistent World Issues. -
iconicbanana,
2015-02-06, 14:19
- Persistent World Issues. -
ckamp,
2015-02-06, 14:17
- Persistent World Issues. -
iconicbanana,
2015-02-06, 13:59
- The Library displayed brilliant in-game storytelling -
ckamp,
2015-02-06, 13:52
- Maybe this is why Bungie hates story-telling now? -
Malagate,
2015-02-06, 13:06
- Maybe this is why Bungie hates story-telling now? -
Malagate,
2015-02-06, 12:45
- Maybe this is why Bungie hates story-telling now? -
Cody Miller,
2015-02-06, 15:01
- Maybe this is why Bungie hates story-telling now? - Blackt1g3r, 2015-02-11, 14:09
- Maybe this is why Bungie hates story-telling now? -
Cody Miller,
2015-02-06, 15:01
- Maybe this is why Bungie hates story-telling now? -
Ragashingo,
2015-02-06, 12:39
- Maybe this is why Bungie hates story-telling now? -
Kahzgul,
2015-02-06, 11:48
- Maybe this is why Bungie hates story-telling now? -
Kermit,
2015-02-06, 10:26
- Maybe this is why Bungie hates story-telling now? - CruelLEGACEY, 2015-02-06, 10:30
- Maybe this is why Bungie hates story-telling now? -
Cody Miller,
2015-02-06, 15:03
- Maybe this is why Bungie hates story-telling now? - roland, 2015-02-06, 15:05
- + 1 million - CruelLEGACEY, 2015-02-06, 15:20
- With ya Kerm -
Leviathan,
2015-02-06, 15:48
- With ya Kerm - Kermit, 2015-02-06, 16:16
- Maybe this is why Bungie hates story-telling now? -
Durandal,
2015-02-06, 11:24
- Maybe this is why Bungie hates story-telling now? - Kahzgul, 2015-02-06, 11:50
- +1 to NPCs in the wild - ckamp, 2015-02-06, 12:56
- Maybe this is why Bungie hates story-telling now? - Cody Miller, 2015-02-06, 14:38
- Maybe this is why Bungie hates story-telling now? -
Old Fire Thief,
2015-02-09, 19:04
- Maybe this is why Bungie hates story-telling now? - Ragashingo, 2015-02-09, 20:20
- Maybe this is why Bungie hates story-telling now? -
Blackt1g3r,
2015-02-06, 09:44