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Maybe this is why Bungie hates story-telling now? (Destiny)
I don't think we're disagreeing.
When I worked in games, 2 years was considered "rushed" for development from scratch, and acceptable for installments in a franchise. Most annual games are really the same game engine used for 2 or 3 years in a row, just with different content and assets and story and such. Madden is a great example of a game that adds one new feature every year, but only gets a new game engine every 3 years or so.
9 years of development is a crazy long time, but often ideas germinate for a while before you're officially "making" the game. The trick is, large elements like cutscenes, boss fights, etc... all can take a lot of work to pull off. That final year is all testing, bug hunting, and fine tuning. Making major changes in 1 year is a huge red flag (diablo 3 and destiny are two recent examples of games that had major overhauls in their final year of development, and both games have been hugely disappointing to me).
It's more like, I know that at least the final 2 months of that year are lost to manufacturing, and that the 8 months before that are major testing and bug fixing months. So really, the story overhauls were all done in 2 months. 4 if they pushed testing (they clearly did). And then they're set in stone so the bugs can be fixed. Any time you change major plots in a game, you're resetting the clock on testing, and pushing your product 8-10 more months down the line.
Complete thread:
- Maybe this is why Bungie hates story-telling now? -
roland,
2015-02-06, 09:38
- Maybe this is why Bungie hates story-telling now? -
Blackt1g3r,
2015-02-06, 09:44
- Not a very big step... -
CruelLEGACEY,
2015-02-06, 10:22
- Not a very big step... -
Blackt1g3r,
2015-02-06, 10:41
- Not a very big step... - CruelLEGACEY, 2015-02-06, 10:46
- Not a very big step... -
stabbim,
2015-02-06, 11:45
- +1 -
Blackt1g3r,
2015-02-06, 12:30
- +1 - CruelLEGACEY, 2015-02-06, 15:46
- Not a very big step... - CruelLEGACEY, 2015-02-06, 15:45
- +1 -
Blackt1g3r,
2015-02-06, 12:30
- Not a very big step... -
Blackt1g3r,
2015-02-06, 10:41
- Not a very big step... -
CruelLEGACEY,
2015-02-06, 10:22
- Maybe this is why Bungie hates story-telling now? -
iconicbanana,
2015-02-06, 09:51
- Maybe this is why Bungie hates story-telling now? -
Kahzgul,
2015-02-06, 11:05
- Maybe this is why Bungie hates story-telling now? *edit -
iconicbanana,
2015-02-06, 11:14
- Maybe this is why Bungie hates story-telling now? *edit -
Kahzgul,
2015-02-06, 11:38
- It's astounding this studio made Oni. -
iconicbanana,
2015-02-06, 11:44
- Loved Oni. Not at all astounded. -
Kahzgul,
2015-02-06, 11:52
- Loved Oni. Not at all astounded. -
iconicbanana,
2015-02-06, 11:58
- Loved Oni. Not at all astounded. -
Malagate,
2015-02-06, 12:24
- This was the biggest missed opportunity in Destiny -
iconicbanana,
2015-02-06, 12:57
- This was the biggest missed opportunity in Destiny - Malagate, 2015-02-06, 13:12
- This was the biggest missed opportunity in Destiny -
Cody Miller,
2015-02-06, 15:04
- This was the biggest missed opportunity in Destiny -
Kermit,
2015-02-06, 15:22
- The patrol bounty name was a big hint.
- iconicbanana, 2015-02-06, 15:23
- The patrol bounty name was a big hint.
- This was the biggest missed opportunity in Destiny -
Kermit,
2015-02-06, 15:22
- This was the biggest missed opportunity in Destiny -
iconicbanana,
2015-02-06, 12:57
- Loved Oni. Not at all astounded. - Claude Errera, 2015-02-06, 18:20
- Loved Oni. Not at all astounded. -
Malagate,
2015-02-06, 12:24
- Loved Oni. Not at all astounded. -
iconicbanana,
2015-02-06, 11:58
- Technically - Blackt1g3r, 2015-02-06, 12:27
- It's astounding this studio made Oni. -
Cody Miller,
2015-02-06, 14:37
- I was a boss at Oni and it enriched the experience immensely -
iconicbanana,
2015-02-06, 15:20
- I was a boss at Oni and it enriched the experience immensely -
Ragashingo,
2015-02-06, 16:00
- I was a boss at Oni and it enriched the experience immensely - iconicbanana, 2015-02-06, 16:34
- I was a boss at Oni and it enriched the experience immensely -
Ragashingo,
2015-02-06, 16:00
- I was a boss at Oni and it enriched the experience immensely -
iconicbanana,
2015-02-06, 15:20
- Loved Oni. Not at all astounded. -
Kahzgul,
2015-02-06, 11:52
- It's astounding this studio made Oni. -
iconicbanana,
2015-02-06, 11:44
- Starcraft Manual -
Cody Miller,
2015-02-06, 15:08
- Starcraft Manual -
General Battuta,
2015-02-06, 19:38
- Any Blizzard Manual -
iconicbanana,
2015-02-06, 20:39
- I see you the Blizzard Manuals... -
Quirel,
2015-02-07, 00:25
- I see you the Blizzard Manuals... - General Battuta, 2015-02-07, 14:43
- Any Blizzard Manual - Blackt1g3r, 2015-02-11, 12:23
- I see you the Blizzard Manuals... -
Quirel,
2015-02-07, 00:25
- Any Blizzard Manual -
iconicbanana,
2015-02-06, 20:39
- Starcraft Manual -
General Battuta,
2015-02-06, 19:38
- Maybe this is why Bungie hates story-telling now? *edit -
Kahzgul,
2015-02-06, 11:38
- *sad, begrudging thumbs up* - Ouranje, 2015-02-06, 11:15
- Maybe this is why Bungie hates story-telling now? -
Kermit,
2015-02-06, 11:58
- Maybe this is why Bungie hates story-telling now? -
Kahzgul,
2015-02-06, 12:18
- Maybe this is why Bungie hates story-telling now? -
Kermit,
2015-02-06, 14:35
- Maybe this is why Bungie hates story-telling now? - Kahzgul, 2015-02-06, 22:38
- Maybe this is why Bungie hates story-telling now? -
Kermit,
2015-02-06, 14:35
- Maybe this is why Bungie hates story-telling now? -
Kahzgul,
2015-02-06, 12:18
- Maybe this is why Bungie hates story-telling now? *edit -
iconicbanana,
2015-02-06, 11:14
- Maybe this is why Bungie hates story-telling now? -
Kahzgul,
2015-02-06, 11:05
- Maybe this is why Bungie hates story-telling now? -
Cody Miller,
2015-02-06, 10:21
- Maybe this is why Bungie hates story-telling now? -
Ragashingo,
2015-02-06, 10:31
- Maybe this is why Bungie hates story-telling now? -
yakaman,
2015-02-06, 11:52
- Maybe this is why Bungie hates story-telling now? - Ragashingo, 2015-02-06, 13:02
- Maybe this is why Bungie hates story-telling now? -
yakaman,
2015-02-06, 11:52
- +1
- INSANEdrive, 2015-02-06, 11:04
- Maybe this is why Bungie hates story-telling now? -
roland,
2015-02-06, 13:42
- Maybe this is why Bungie hates story-telling now? -
ckamp,
2015-02-06, 13:53
- Maybe this is why Bungie hates story-telling now? -
roland,
2015-02-06, 13:57
- The more you know... - ckamp, 2015-02-06, 13:59
- Maybe this is why Bungie hates story-telling now? -
roland,
2015-02-06, 13:57
- Maybe this is why Bungie hates story-telling now? -
ckamp,
2015-02-06, 13:53
- Maybe this is why Bungie hates story-telling now? -
Ragashingo,
2015-02-06, 10:31
- Maybe this is why Bungie hates story-telling now? -
Ragashingo,
2015-02-06, 10:23
- Maybe this is why Bungie hates story-telling now? -
Kahzgul,
2015-02-06, 11:48
- Maybe this is why Bungie hates story-telling now? -
Ragashingo,
2015-02-06, 12:39
- Maybe this is why Bungie hates story-telling now? -
Malagate,
2015-02-06, 13:06
- The Library displayed brilliant in-game storytelling -
ckamp,
2015-02-06, 13:52
- Persistent World Issues. -
iconicbanana,
2015-02-06, 13:59
- Persistent World Issues. -
ckamp,
2015-02-06, 14:17
- Persistent World Issues. -
iconicbanana,
2015-02-06, 14:19
- The sad thing here... -
Kahzgul,
2015-02-06, 14:23
- Future War Cult.
- Ragashingo, 2015-02-06, 14:56
- Future War Cult.
- The sad thing here... -
Kahzgul,
2015-02-06, 14:23
- Persistent World Issues. -
iconicbanana,
2015-02-06, 14:19
- Persistent World Issues. -
ckamp,
2015-02-06, 14:17
- Persistent World Issues. -
iconicbanana,
2015-02-06, 13:59
- The Library displayed brilliant in-game storytelling -
ckamp,
2015-02-06, 13:52
- Maybe this is why Bungie hates story-telling now? -
Malagate,
2015-02-06, 13:06
- Maybe this is why Bungie hates story-telling now? -
Malagate,
2015-02-06, 12:45
- Maybe this is why Bungie hates story-telling now? -
Cody Miller,
2015-02-06, 15:01
- Maybe this is why Bungie hates story-telling now? - Blackt1g3r, 2015-02-11, 14:09
- Maybe this is why Bungie hates story-telling now? -
Cody Miller,
2015-02-06, 15:01
- Maybe this is why Bungie hates story-telling now? -
Ragashingo,
2015-02-06, 12:39
- Maybe this is why Bungie hates story-telling now? -
Kahzgul,
2015-02-06, 11:48
- Maybe this is why Bungie hates story-telling now? -
Kermit,
2015-02-06, 10:26
- Maybe this is why Bungie hates story-telling now? - CruelLEGACEY, 2015-02-06, 10:30
- Maybe this is why Bungie hates story-telling now? -
Cody Miller,
2015-02-06, 15:03
- Maybe this is why Bungie hates story-telling now? - roland, 2015-02-06, 15:05
- + 1 million
- CruelLEGACEY, 2015-02-06, 15:20
- With ya Kerm -
Leviathan,
2015-02-06, 15:48
- With ya Kerm - Kermit, 2015-02-06, 16:16
- Maybe this is why Bungie hates story-telling now? -
Durandal,
2015-02-06, 11:24
- Maybe this is why Bungie hates story-telling now? - Kahzgul, 2015-02-06, 11:50
- +1 to NPCs in the wild - ckamp, 2015-02-06, 12:56
- Maybe this is why Bungie hates story-telling now? - Cody Miller, 2015-02-06, 14:38
- Maybe this is why Bungie hates story-telling now? -
Old Fire Thief,
2015-02-09, 19:04
- Maybe this is why Bungie hates story-telling now? - Ragashingo, 2015-02-09, 20:20
- Maybe this is why Bungie hates story-telling now? -
Blackt1g3r,
2015-02-06, 09:44