I Would've Believed You If You Said Pulse. (Destiny)
The 3rd biggest complaint(IMMEDIATELY after Thorn/Last Word's cheatiness and Shotguns 1-shotting cross-galaxies) is that Auto Rifles are useless--in both PvP AND PvE.
Like always, I can't find any of Bungie's weapon preference statistics, but I don't remember Auto Rifles being at the top.
Nine bullets. Nine bullets. So you're telling me that if you caught them unaware--or if you had them stand still for you--that you could exterminate an entire team of six(let's assume Feeding Frenzy is on)in the 8-12 seconds it would take to empty 2.4 clips?
The 1st and 4th enemies wouldn't even have Glass Half Full damage applied to them.
GHF GHF GHF GHF
9 9 4 + 5 9 9 + 9
A B C D E F
Even SUROS would have a hard time catching up, if that's what you're implying. How could that possibly work? If that were true, why does practically no one else use it? Other than the 90% Thorn/Last Word deaths, and 5% Super deaths, the weapons that have killed me in Iron Banner so far are(from most often to least)
The Adept Messenger
Party Crasher
Another Void new shotgun, I can't remember the name right now
Corrective Measure
Bungie's Lie--I mean, Felwinter's Lie
The Adept Scholar
Through all of Iron Banner this week(in fact, most of Crucible EVER), the only Auto Rifles that have killed me are SUROS, Up For Anything, and For The People. Literally in that order. If what you're implying is true, then DBO and B.Net and Kokatu would be complaining about Vanquisher VIII. I'm pretty sure that showed up on my death screen less than five times my whole life.
Complete thread:
- Kotaku also hates Thorn. -
Revenant1988,
2015-06-04, 19:51
- Kotaku also hates Thorn. - CyberKN, 2015-06-04, 20:00
- Kotaku also hates Thorn. - Cody Miller, 2015-06-04, 20:03
- Kotaku also hates Thorn. -
dogcow,
2015-06-04, 20:06
- Kotaku also hates Thorn. -
CyberKN,
2015-06-04, 20:07
- I've never loved CoD. -
dogcow,
2015-06-04, 20:08
- Nor I. A LOT of people did though. So that's what we get :( -
CyberKN,
2015-06-04, 20:12
- Team SWAT? -
DreadPirateWes,
2015-06-04, 21:33
- What about it? - CyberKN, 2015-06-04, 21:34
- Team SWAT? - Morpheus, 2015-06-04, 22:45
- Team SWAT? -
DreadPirateWes,
2015-06-04, 21:33
- I don't get the CoD comparisons -
Spec ops Grunt,
2015-06-05, 04:49
- I'm a CoD fan... - Korny, 2015-06-05, 08:57
- Nor I. A LOT of people did though. So that's what we get :( -
CyberKN,
2015-06-04, 20:12
- Kotaku also hates Thorn. - Kahzgul, 2015-06-05, 18:56
- I've never loved CoD. -
dogcow,
2015-06-04, 20:08
- Kotaku also hates Thorn. -
CyberKN,
2015-06-04, 20:07
- Unpopular opinion time: I don't mind thorn. -
Funkmon,
2015-06-04, 20:41
- Unpopular opinion time: I don't mind thorn. -
Cody Miller,
2015-06-04, 20:58
- Nah, they're fine. Used Vanquisher to decent effect Tuesday. -
Funkmon,
2015-06-04, 21:21
- No, They're Not. -
Morpheus,
2015-06-04, 22:46
- 9 bullets. Trust me, they're fine. -
Funkmon,
2015-06-04, 23:14
- I Would've Believed You If You Said Pulse. -
Morpheus,
2015-06-05, 01:25
- Yes. 9 bullets. -
Funkmon,
2015-06-05, 03:56
- Yes. 9 bullets. -
Cody Miller,
2015-06-05, 04:10
- Don't be stupid. -
Funkmon,
2015-06-05, 04:36
- Don't be stupid. -
Cody Miller,
2015-06-05, 05:00
- Don't be stupid. -
Korny,
2015-06-05, 06:34
- 6..... - red robber, 2015-06-05, 08:21
- Don't be stupid. -
Cody Miller,
2015-06-05, 17:17
- Don't be stupid. -
Claude Errera,
2015-06-05, 17:32
- I find I'm somewhere in the middle - CruelLEGACEY, 2015-06-05, 18:56
- Don't be stupid. - Cody Miller, 2015-06-05, 19:35
- Don't be stupid. -
Claude Errera,
2015-06-05, 17:32
- Don't be stupid. -
Korny,
2015-06-05, 06:34
- Don't be stupid. -
Cody Miller,
2015-06-05, 05:00
- Don't be stupid. -
Funkmon,
2015-06-05, 04:36
- Yes. 9 bullets. -
Cody Miller,
2015-06-05, 04:10
- Yes. 9 bullets. -
Funkmon,
2015-06-05, 03:56
- I Would've Believed You If You Said Pulse. -
Morpheus,
2015-06-05, 01:25
- 9 bullets. Trust me, they're fine. -
Funkmon,
2015-06-04, 23:14
- No, They're Not. -
Morpheus,
2015-06-04, 22:46
- Nah, they're fine. Used Vanquisher to decent effect Tuesday. -
Funkmon,
2015-06-04, 21:21
- I think Thorn is OP as hell right now - Kahzgul, 2015-06-05, 19:03
- Unpopular opinion time: I don't mind thorn. -
Cody Miller,
2015-06-04, 20:58
- Modelling Weapon Balance in Code? -
dogcow,
2015-06-04, 21:13
- Pivot tables, Pivot tables as far as the eye can see -
electricpirate,
2015-06-04, 22:30
- Weapon balance changing over time is on purpose -
DreadPirateWes,
2015-06-04, 23:52
- This man is a gentleman and a scholar. -
iconicbanana,
2015-06-05, 01:01
- As a recent MIDA convert, I can get behind that -
someotherguy,
2015-06-05, 12:31
- As a recent MIDA convert, I can get behind that -
iconicbanana,
2015-06-05, 12:41
- What's a bhop? Did I just have a seizure? -
someotherguy,
2015-06-05, 13:24
- What's a bhop? Did I just have a seizure? - iconicbanana, 2015-06-05, 13:25
- What's a bhop? Did I just have a seizure? -
someotherguy,
2015-06-05, 13:24
- As a recent MIDA convert, I can get behind that -
CommandrCleavage,
2015-06-05, 12:54
- "I WAS ON 9 KILLS AND THE FLOOR DISAPPEARED!!!" -
someotherguy,
2015-06-05, 13:08
- See!!! See how much fun that would be! - CommandrCleavage, 2015-06-05, 13:34
- this would be AMAZINGGG - Raflection, 2015-06-05, 20:18
- "I WAS ON 9 KILLS AND THE FLOOR DISAPPEARED!!!" -
someotherguy,
2015-06-05, 13:08
- As a recent MIDA convert, I can get behind that -
iconicbanana,
2015-06-05, 12:41
- As a recent MIDA convert, I can get behind that -
someotherguy,
2015-06-05, 12:31
- This man is a gentleman and a scholar. -
iconicbanana,
2015-06-05, 01:01
- Weapon balance changing over time is on purpose -
DreadPirateWes,
2015-06-04, 23:52
- Pivot tables, Pivot tables as far as the eye can see -
electricpirate,
2015-06-04, 22:30
- The Second I Get To Rank 2 In IB. - Morpheus, 2015-06-04, 22:42
- Kotaku also hates Thorn. - Avateur, 2015-06-05, 00:15
- My personal Problem with Thorn -
Monochron,
2015-06-05, 02:12
- My personal Problem with Thorn - CommandrCleavage, 2015-06-05, 12:29
- Kotaku also hates Thorn. -
CommandrCleavage,
2015-06-05, 10:53
- Kotaku also hates Thorn. -
Monochron,
2015-06-05, 11:25
- Kotaku also hates Thorn. -
CommandrCleavage,
2015-06-05, 11:34
- Kotaku also hates Thorn. - ProbablyLast, 2015-06-05, 12:52
- Kotaku also hates Thorn. -
Monochron,
2015-06-05, 14:21
- Kotaku also hates Thorn. - CommandrCleavage, 2015-06-05, 15:14
- Kotaku also hates Thorn. - CommandrCleavage, 2015-06-05, 18:09
- Kotaku also hates Thorn. -
Claude Errera,
2015-06-05, 17:41
- Kotaku also hates Thorn. - Monochron, 2015-06-06, 00:25
- Kotaku also hates Thorn. -
CommandrCleavage,
2015-06-05, 11:34
- Kotaku also hates Thorn. -
Revenant1988,
2015-06-05, 11:46
- Kotaku also hates Thorn. - CommandrCleavage, 2015-06-05, 12:17
- I am Better (sometimes, and that's when it annoys me) -
someotherguy,
2015-06-05, 12:12
- I am Better (sometimes, and that's when it annoys me) -
CommandrCleavage,
2015-06-05, 12:23
- I am Better (sometimes, and that's when it annoys me) -
someotherguy,
2015-06-05, 13:02
- If you use Thorn, the DoT does allow for one thing: -
iconicbanana,
2015-06-05, 13:07
- Err, exactly? -
someotherguy,
2015-06-05, 14:14
- Troll Hard 2: Troll Harder. -
iconicbanana,
2015-06-05, 14:17
- Flawless Execution sir. Flawless. - someotherguy, 2015-06-05, 14:23
- Troll Hard 2: Troll Harder. -
iconicbanana,
2015-06-05, 14:17
- If you use Thorn, the DoT does allow for one thing: -
bluerunner,
2015-06-05, 15:29
- I agree with you, I won't debate the DoT's fairness. -
iconicbanana,
2015-06-05, 15:31
- I agree with you, I won't debate the DoT's fairness. -
bluerunner,
2015-06-05, 16:07
- Not really sure where you're going here blue. -
iconicbanana,
2015-06-05, 16:10
- Not really sure where you're going here blue. -
bluerunner,
2015-06-05, 17:29
- Let me troll the trolls, troll! #trollception - iconicbanana, 2015-06-05, 17:34
- Not really sure where you're going here blue. -
bluerunner,
2015-06-05, 17:29
- When Thorn was a POS... -
Revenant1988,
2015-06-05, 16:14
- When Thorn was a POS... -
CyberKN,
2015-06-05, 16:20
- When Thorn was a POS... -
Revenant1988,
2015-06-05, 16:35
- Take one of mine, please - someotherguy, 2015-06-05, 18:07
- When Thorn was a POS... -
CyberKN,
2015-06-05, 18:24
- When Thorn was a POS... -
Revenant1988,
2015-06-05, 19:35
- When Thorn was a POS... - CyberKN, 2015-06-05, 19:45
- When Thorn was a POS... -
Revenant1988,
2015-06-05, 19:35
- When Thorn was a POS... -
Revenant1988,
2015-06-05, 16:35
- In the right hands, it was good, even then. -
iconicbanana,
2015-06-05, 18:16
- Good Show! - CommandrCleavage, 2015-06-05, 18:31
- When Thorn was a POS... -
CyberKN,
2015-06-05, 16:20
- Not really sure where you're going here blue. -
iconicbanana,
2015-06-05, 16:10
- I agree with you, I won't debate the DoT's fairness. -
bluerunner,
2015-06-05, 16:07
- I agree with you, I won't debate the DoT's fairness. -
iconicbanana,
2015-06-05, 15:31
- Err, exactly? -
someotherguy,
2015-06-05, 14:14
- If you use Thorn, the DoT does allow for one thing: -
iconicbanana,
2015-06-05, 13:07
- I am Better (sometimes, and that's when it annoys me) -
someotherguy,
2015-06-05, 13:02
- But ... but ... -
Kermit,
2015-06-05, 13:16
- You're a Sunsinger, your body is a weapon :p - someotherguy, 2015-06-05, 14:22
- But ... but ... - Avateur, 2015-06-05, 18:13
- I am Better (sometimes, and that's when it annoys me) -
CommandrCleavage,
2015-06-05, 12:23
- Kotaku also hates Thorn. -
Monochron,
2015-06-05, 11:25
- My team and I figured out another Thorn perk: Assists! - Kahzgul, 2015-06-06, 09:22