Taken King and Elemental Primaries (Destiny)
I think moving forward, there should be no legendary elemental primaries. I was thinking about how elemental primaries had an effect on the game, and while I might be in the minority here, I don't think it's positive.
I think having an elemental primary really pushes out a lot of difficulty and strategy. If you play through the game from the start, you'll see that special weapon management is far more important than it is now. Captains, Wizards, and shielded Cabal can be tricky. Wizards especially have a tough shield, but low health. So the key is to get their shields down quickly, then finish them off. This is where having a solar fusion rifle absolutely shined. With elemental primaries though, you've got something like Vision of Confluence that just eats wizards up, and since it has so much ammo you can just use it the whole time. Same thing with Fatebringer on captains.
In particular this pushes out specials. I use snipers pretty much only for bosses, and in special circumstances like the boomers in Crota's End, or the distant Hydras on Winter's Run (all of those situations are element agnostic). Fusion Rifles I rarely if ever use in PvE. Shotguns are so good, you really don't need to match elements to be successful.
Without elemental primaries, the special and heavy slots would be much more interesting I think, especially on nightfalls where you have multiple shield types to deal with.
Speaking of nightfalls, with an elemental primary, nightfall is and easy affair. Without one, it's rather hard. Again, with no elemental primaries, I feel like choice of special and heavy would be a bit more complex, given they would be your only burn source. Try doing this week's nightfall without a solar primary, and you'll have a tough time! Didn't Bungie always say nightfalls were supposed to be some of the hardest challenges?
If there are elemental primaries in TTK, I think they should be exotic. At least then, the substantially beneficial perk of elemental damage comes at the cost of another exotic. The current elemental primaries are great weapons even if they didn't have the element. And because they are legendary, I often don't see a huge benefit to picking a primary exotic in PvE.
In my opinion, the game would be much more interesting if year one elemental primaries were phased out, and replaced with nothing.
Complete thread:
- Taken King and Elemental Primaries -
Cody Miller,
2015-08-21, 13:54
- Taken King and Elemental Primaries -
kanbo,
2015-08-21, 14:00
- Taken King and Elemental Primaries -
Cody Miller,
2015-08-21, 14:02
- Taken King and Elemental Primaries -
Korny,
2015-08-21, 14:10
- Void Bad Juju, plzthxbye - ZackDark, 2015-08-22, 02:35
- Taken King and Elemental Primaries -
kanbo,
2015-08-21, 14:13
- Taken King and Elemental Primaries -
Korny,
2015-08-21, 14:27
- Taken King and Elemental Primaries - kidtsunami, 2015-08-21, 14:35
- Taken King and Elemental Primaries - Robot Chickens, 2015-08-21, 17:23
- Taken King and Elemental Primaries -
Korny,
2015-08-21, 14:27
- Here's a thought: -
Revenant1988,
2015-08-21, 15:05
- Here's a thought: - CruelLEGACEY, 2015-08-21, 15:10
- Here's a thought: -
slycrel,
2015-08-21, 15:14
- +1 - CyberKN, 2015-08-21, 15:16
- Here's a thought: -
Claude Errera,
2015-08-21, 15:23
- Concurred, however - TheeChaos, 2015-08-21, 15:39
- Here's a thought: -
CruelLEGACEY,
2015-08-21, 15:39
- Here's a thought: -
Claude Errera,
2015-08-21, 16:22
- Airborn + Grounded make me giggle... - Korny, 2015-08-21, 16:29
- Here's a thought: -
CruelLEGACEY,
2015-08-21, 16:33
- Here's a thought: -
Claude Errera,
2015-08-21, 16:36
- Oh, I found a way ;) - CruelLEGACEY, 2015-08-21, 16:41
- Here's a thought: -
Claude Errera,
2015-08-21, 16:36
- Here's a thought: - slycrel, 2015-08-21, 16:38
- Modifiers tangent . . . - cheapLEY, 2015-08-21, 18:33
- Brawler + Circus Hunter = all the fun in the world - someotherguy, 2015-08-22, 16:52
- Here's a thought: -
Claude Errera,
2015-08-21, 16:22
- Here's a thought: -
Cody Miller,
2015-08-21, 15:50
- Here's a thought: -
Claude Errera,
2015-08-21, 16:24
- Here's a thought: -
marmot 1333,
2015-08-21, 16:44
- Here's a thought: - Claude Errera, 2015-08-21, 16:48
- Here's a thought: -
marmot 1333,
2015-08-21, 16:44
- Here's a thought: -
Claude Errera,
2015-08-21, 16:24
- Here's a thought: -
slycrel,
2015-08-21, 16:08
- +1 - kidtsunami, 2015-08-21, 16:10
- Fair enough. - Claude Errera, 2015-08-21, 16:25
- Here's a thought: -
Cody Miller,
2015-08-23, 20:30
- Here's a thought: -
Claude Errera,
2015-08-23, 22:19
- Here's a thought: -
Cody Miller,
2015-08-23, 23:01
- Different playstyles. :) - Claude Errera, 2015-08-23, 23:31
- Here's a thought: -
Cody Miller,
2015-08-23, 23:01
- Here's a thought: -
Claude Errera,
2015-08-23, 22:19
- Here's a thought: - Cody Miller, 2015-08-21, 15:46
- Taken King and Elemental Primaries -
Korny,
2015-08-21, 14:10
- Taken King and Elemental Primaries -
Cody Miller,
2015-08-21, 14:02
- You're right, I think...but -
Funkmon,
2015-08-21, 14:06
- You're right, I think...but -
Cody Miller,
2015-08-21, 14:35
- Yup, totally agree. - dogcow, 2015-08-21, 14:42
- You're right, I think...but -
unoudid,
2015-08-21, 15:36
- What if we're coming at this from the wrong angle? - CruelLEGACEY, 2015-08-21, 16:04
- You're right, I think...but -
Cody Miller,
2015-08-21, 14:35
- Totally agree, +1 -
kidtsunami,
2015-08-21, 14:35
- I'd nerf them - kidtsunami, 2015-08-21, 15:36
- They sort of did this (minus trials) in HoW -
slycrel,
2015-08-21, 14:38
- Actually... -
CruelLEGACEY,
2015-08-21, 14:41
- Actually... - Cody Miller, 2015-08-21, 14:41
- Yeah, I've done it 4 times and gotten a void auto-rifle once - slycrel, 2015-08-21, 15:02
- Actually... -
CruelLEGACEY,
2015-08-21, 14:41
- Agreed... -
Mid7night,
2015-08-21, 14:41
- Shut that dirty mouth of yours! ;-) - dogcow, 2015-08-21, 14:45
- Your opinions are bad and you should feel bad ;p - CruelLEGACEY, 2015-08-21, 14:49
- Counterpoint: All Legendaries should have elemental damage -
CyberKN,
2015-08-21, 14:45
- Why not just reduce the burn multiplier for primaries? -
iconicbanana,
2015-08-21, 14:46
- Primaries already do less damage then special weapons. - CyberKN, 2015-08-21, 14:46
- Why not just reduce the burn multiplier for primaries? -
iconicbanana,
2015-08-21, 14:46
- I'm torn on this -
CruelLEGACEY,
2015-08-21, 14:47
- I'm torn on this -
Cody Miller,
2015-08-21, 14:52
- I'm torn on this -
CyberKN,
2015-08-21, 14:57
- I'm torn on this -
CruelLEGACEY,
2015-08-21, 15:05
- I'm torn on this -
CyberKN,
2015-08-21, 15:10
- I'm torn on this - CruelLEGACEY, 2015-08-21, 15:27
- I'm torn on this -
Cody Miller,
2015-08-21, 15:52
- I'm torn on this -
CruelLEGACEY,
2015-08-21, 15:55
- I'm torn on this -
Cody Miller,
2015-08-21, 15:58
- I'm torn on this -
CyberKN,
2015-08-21, 16:45
- +1 - Claude Errera, 2015-08-21, 16:48
- I'm torn on this -
Cody Miller,
2015-08-21, 16:50
- We should race next time we do the Deathsinger. -
CyberKN,
2015-08-21, 16:54
- We should race next time we do the Deathsinger. -
Cody Miller,
2015-08-21, 16:57
- We should race next time we do the Deathsinger. -
CyberKN,
2015-08-21, 16:58
- We should race next time we do the Deathsinger. - Cody Miller, 2015-08-21, 17:00
- We should race next time we do the Deathsinger. -
CyberKN,
2015-08-21, 16:58
- We should race next time we do the Deathsinger. -
Cody Miller,
2015-08-21, 16:57
- I'm torn on this -
Claude Errera,
2015-08-21, 16:54
- I'm torn on this - Cody Miller, 2015-08-21, 16:56
- What Cody said, make the right choice Claude (ps4) - dogcow, 2015-08-21, 16:57
- I'm torn on this - CyberKN, 2015-08-21, 16:57
- I'm torn on this - dogcow, 2015-08-21, 17:01
- I know that one too. - Funkmon, 2015-08-21, 19:20
- We should race next time we do the Deathsinger. -
CyberKN,
2015-08-21, 16:54
- I'm torn on this -
Harmanimus,
2015-08-23, 23:41
- This could work - CyberKN, 2015-08-24, 01:27
- I'm torn on this -
CyberKN,
2015-08-21, 16:45
- I'm torn on this -
Cody Miller,
2015-08-21, 15:58
- I'm torn on this -
CruelLEGACEY,
2015-08-21, 15:55
- I'm torn on this -
CyberKN,
2015-08-21, 15:10
- I'm torn on this -
CruelLEGACEY,
2015-08-21, 15:05
- I'm torn on this -
CyberKN,
2015-08-21, 14:57
- Good point about nightfalls becoming un-fun. -
dogcow,
2015-08-21, 15:01
- On the flipside... -
slycrel,
2015-08-21, 16:21
- On the flipside... - cheapLEY, 2015-08-21, 21:51
- On the flipside... -
slycrel,
2015-08-21, 16:21
- I'm torn on this -
Cody Miller,
2015-08-21, 14:52
- Taken King and Elemental Primaries - marmot 1333, 2015-08-21, 15:01
- Solution? -
Cody Miller,
2015-08-26, 15:22
- Interesting idea -
CruelLEGACEY,
2015-08-26, 15:30
- It could just be a modifier - marmot 1333, 2015-08-26, 15:59
- Interesting idea -
Cody Miller,
2015-08-28, 00:08
- Sooooo scrap Fusion Rifles from early game? -
ZackDark,
2015-08-28, 01:23
- Sooooo scrap Fusion Rifles from early game? - stabbim, 2015-08-28, 03:04
- Sooooo scrap Fusion Rifles from early game? -
ZackDark,
2015-08-28, 01:23
- Interesting idea -
CruelLEGACEY,
2015-08-26, 15:30
- Taken King and Elemental Primaries -
kanbo,
2015-08-21, 14:00