Here's a thought: (Destiny)
I sort of see the argument that "elemental primaries are so much better than the alternative that once I get one (WHENEVER I get one), I'll never go back to a non-elemental primary"... for folks who play the "most efficient gun, all the time" metagame.
I don't play that game. I enjoy having options - and I'd be sad if those options were limited just because some people feel that those options keep them from trying other things.
I agree with this, and I'm right there with you. More often than not I'm using a non-elemental primary because they are more enjoyable for me. I like my custom A.1F-19x, TDYK, Venation III and so forth.
Why should a class of weapons that does NOT affect how others play the game be nerfed because one player (or one class of player) suggests that they can't stop themselves from using it if it's around?
I understood the distinction, and tried to point out that a new, valid perspective was being introduced at the beginning of my previous post.
My point was that those are two entirely different discussions. Cody isn't saying "hey these should be nerfed because the game is too easy for me". He is saying "hey, there might be a gameplay problem once a player has a ton of elemental primaries -- things that should be hard are now too easy". I was responding to the implication that this is about cody's ego and only his meta-game matters. I think he is saying "this is what I see as a problem with end-game meta" and wanting to discuss that. We can discuss both, here or in separate threads, but I don't think the heat is constructive or called for here... so I was pointing it out.
Complete thread:
- Taken King and Elemental Primaries -
Cody Miller,
2015-08-21, 13:54
- Taken King and Elemental Primaries -
kanbo,
2015-08-21, 14:00
- Taken King and Elemental Primaries -
Cody Miller,
2015-08-21, 14:02
- Taken King and Elemental Primaries -
Korny,
2015-08-21, 14:10
- Void Bad Juju, plzthxbye - ZackDark, 2015-08-22, 02:35
- Taken King and Elemental Primaries -
kanbo,
2015-08-21, 14:13
- Taken King and Elemental Primaries -
Korny,
2015-08-21, 14:27
- Taken King and Elemental Primaries - kidtsunami, 2015-08-21, 14:35
- Taken King and Elemental Primaries - Robot Chickens, 2015-08-21, 17:23
- Taken King and Elemental Primaries -
Korny,
2015-08-21, 14:27
- Here's a thought: -
Revenant1988,
2015-08-21, 15:05
- Here's a thought: - CruelLEGACEY, 2015-08-21, 15:10
- Here's a thought: -
slycrel,
2015-08-21, 15:14
- +1 - CyberKN, 2015-08-21, 15:16
- Here's a thought: -
Claude Errera,
2015-08-21, 15:23
- Concurred, however - TheeChaos, 2015-08-21, 15:39
- Here's a thought: -
CruelLEGACEY,
2015-08-21, 15:39
- Here's a thought: -
Claude Errera,
2015-08-21, 16:22
- Airborn + Grounded make me giggle... - Korny, 2015-08-21, 16:29
- Here's a thought: -
CruelLEGACEY,
2015-08-21, 16:33
- Here's a thought: -
Claude Errera,
2015-08-21, 16:36
- Oh, I found a way ;) - CruelLEGACEY, 2015-08-21, 16:41
- Here's a thought: -
Claude Errera,
2015-08-21, 16:36
- Here's a thought: - slycrel, 2015-08-21, 16:38
- Modifiers tangent . . . - cheapLEY, 2015-08-21, 18:33
- Brawler + Circus Hunter = all the fun in the world - someotherguy, 2015-08-22, 16:52
- Here's a thought: -
Claude Errera,
2015-08-21, 16:22
- Here's a thought: -
Cody Miller,
2015-08-21, 15:50
- Here's a thought: -
Claude Errera,
2015-08-21, 16:24
- Here's a thought: -
marmot 1333,
2015-08-21, 16:44
- Here's a thought: - Claude Errera, 2015-08-21, 16:48
- Here's a thought: -
marmot 1333,
2015-08-21, 16:44
- Here's a thought: -
Claude Errera,
2015-08-21, 16:24
- Here's a thought: -
slycrel,
2015-08-21, 16:08
- +1 - kidtsunami, 2015-08-21, 16:10
- Fair enough. - Claude Errera, 2015-08-21, 16:25
- Here's a thought: -
Cody Miller,
2015-08-23, 20:30
- Here's a thought: -
Claude Errera,
2015-08-23, 22:19
- Here's a thought: -
Cody Miller,
2015-08-23, 23:01
- Different playstyles. :) - Claude Errera, 2015-08-23, 23:31
- Here's a thought: -
Cody Miller,
2015-08-23, 23:01
- Here's a thought: -
Claude Errera,
2015-08-23, 22:19
- Here's a thought: - Cody Miller, 2015-08-21, 15:46
- Taken King and Elemental Primaries -
Korny,
2015-08-21, 14:10
- Taken King and Elemental Primaries -
Cody Miller,
2015-08-21, 14:02
- You're right, I think...but -
Funkmon,
2015-08-21, 14:06
- You're right, I think...but -
Cody Miller,
2015-08-21, 14:35
- Yup, totally agree. - dogcow, 2015-08-21, 14:42
- You're right, I think...but -
unoudid,
2015-08-21, 15:36
- What if we're coming at this from the wrong angle? - CruelLEGACEY, 2015-08-21, 16:04
- You're right, I think...but -
Cody Miller,
2015-08-21, 14:35
- Totally agree, +1 -
kidtsunami,
2015-08-21, 14:35
- I'd nerf them - kidtsunami, 2015-08-21, 15:36
- They sort of did this (minus trials) in HoW -
slycrel,
2015-08-21, 14:38
- Actually... -
CruelLEGACEY,
2015-08-21, 14:41
- Actually... - Cody Miller, 2015-08-21, 14:41
- Yeah, I've done it 4 times and gotten a void auto-rifle once - slycrel, 2015-08-21, 15:02
- Actually... -
CruelLEGACEY,
2015-08-21, 14:41
- Agreed... -
Mid7night,
2015-08-21, 14:41
- Shut that dirty mouth of yours! ;-) - dogcow, 2015-08-21, 14:45
- Your opinions are bad and you should feel bad ;p - CruelLEGACEY, 2015-08-21, 14:49
- Counterpoint: All Legendaries should have elemental damage -
CyberKN,
2015-08-21, 14:45
- Why not just reduce the burn multiplier for primaries? -
iconicbanana,
2015-08-21, 14:46
- Primaries already do less damage then special weapons. - CyberKN, 2015-08-21, 14:46
- Why not just reduce the burn multiplier for primaries? -
iconicbanana,
2015-08-21, 14:46
- I'm torn on this -
CruelLEGACEY,
2015-08-21, 14:47
- I'm torn on this -
Cody Miller,
2015-08-21, 14:52
- I'm torn on this -
CyberKN,
2015-08-21, 14:57
- I'm torn on this -
CruelLEGACEY,
2015-08-21, 15:05
- I'm torn on this -
CyberKN,
2015-08-21, 15:10
- I'm torn on this - CruelLEGACEY, 2015-08-21, 15:27
- I'm torn on this -
Cody Miller,
2015-08-21, 15:52
- I'm torn on this -
CruelLEGACEY,
2015-08-21, 15:55
- I'm torn on this -
Cody Miller,
2015-08-21, 15:58
- I'm torn on this -
CyberKN,
2015-08-21, 16:45
- +1 - Claude Errera, 2015-08-21, 16:48
- I'm torn on this -
Cody Miller,
2015-08-21, 16:50
- We should race next time we do the Deathsinger. -
CyberKN,
2015-08-21, 16:54
- We should race next time we do the Deathsinger. -
Cody Miller,
2015-08-21, 16:57
- We should race next time we do the Deathsinger. -
CyberKN,
2015-08-21, 16:58
- We should race next time we do the Deathsinger. - Cody Miller, 2015-08-21, 17:00
- We should race next time we do the Deathsinger. -
CyberKN,
2015-08-21, 16:58
- We should race next time we do the Deathsinger. -
Cody Miller,
2015-08-21, 16:57
- I'm torn on this -
Claude Errera,
2015-08-21, 16:54
- I'm torn on this - Cody Miller, 2015-08-21, 16:56
- What Cody said, make the right choice Claude (ps4) - dogcow, 2015-08-21, 16:57
- I'm torn on this - CyberKN, 2015-08-21, 16:57
- I'm torn on this - dogcow, 2015-08-21, 17:01
- I know that one too. - Funkmon, 2015-08-21, 19:20
- We should race next time we do the Deathsinger. -
CyberKN,
2015-08-21, 16:54
- I'm torn on this -
Harmanimus,
2015-08-23, 23:41
- This could work - CyberKN, 2015-08-24, 01:27
- I'm torn on this -
CyberKN,
2015-08-21, 16:45
- I'm torn on this -
Cody Miller,
2015-08-21, 15:58
- I'm torn on this -
CruelLEGACEY,
2015-08-21, 15:55
- I'm torn on this -
CyberKN,
2015-08-21, 15:10
- I'm torn on this -
CruelLEGACEY,
2015-08-21, 15:05
- I'm torn on this -
CyberKN,
2015-08-21, 14:57
- Good point about nightfalls becoming un-fun. -
dogcow,
2015-08-21, 15:01
- On the flipside... -
slycrel,
2015-08-21, 16:21
- On the flipside... - cheapLEY, 2015-08-21, 21:51
- On the flipside... -
slycrel,
2015-08-21, 16:21
- I'm torn on this -
Cody Miller,
2015-08-21, 14:52
- Taken King and Elemental Primaries - marmot 1333, 2015-08-21, 15:01
- Solution? -
Cody Miller,
2015-08-26, 15:22
- Interesting idea -
CruelLEGACEY,
2015-08-26, 15:30
- It could just be a modifier - marmot 1333, 2015-08-26, 15:59
- Interesting idea -
Cody Miller,
2015-08-28, 00:08
- Sooooo scrap Fusion Rifles from early game? -
ZackDark,
2015-08-28, 01:23
- Sooooo scrap Fusion Rifles from early game? - stabbim, 2015-08-28, 03:04
- Sooooo scrap Fusion Rifles from early game? -
ZackDark,
2015-08-28, 01:23
- Interesting idea -
CruelLEGACEY,
2015-08-26, 15:30
- Taken King and Elemental Primaries -
kanbo,
2015-08-21, 14:00