Here's a thought: (Destiny)
And I really don't like this part of it.
If they make the game less challenging for -you- , why should -I- have to suffer?
Not everyone is swimming in them like you are, and I'm getting so tired of reminding you that.
You play all the time, I do not. I don't have fatebringer, and I just got VoC maybe 2 months ago and it's not leveled. My only crota primary is fang of ir yut.
I swear to god you drive me nuts. I guess you weren't really done with Destiny after all.
This adds nothing to the discussion other than past baggage. We're talking about game theory and design here, not about making the game worse for some and better for others. If talking about the top level meta-game bothers you, ignore the thread or post about how it's different at different levels.
I sort of understand your annoyance with the tone, but the question is a valid one:
Most of the discussion in this thread about elemental primaries has focused on PvE gameplay. This is different from PvP gameplay in the sense that your choice of weapons does not affect MY gameplay (this is NOT true in PvP; when you have an overpowered weapon in PvP that I don't have, I am objectively at a disadvantage).
Why should a class of weapons that does NOT affect how others play the game be nerfed because one player (or one class of player) suggests that they can't stop themselves from using it if it's around?
I sort of see the argument that "elemental primaries are so much better than the alternative that once I get one (WHENEVER I get one), I'll never go back to a non-elemental primary"... for folks who play the "most efficient gun, all the time" metagame.
I don't play that game. I enjoy having options - and I'd be sad if those options were limited just because some people feel that those options keep them from trying other things.
This would be a different conversation if elemental primaries were extra-valuable in PvP - but we don't have elemental shields, so they're irrelevant (except for their non-elemental stats).
Complete thread:
- Taken King and Elemental Primaries -
Cody Miller,
2015-08-21, 13:54
- Taken King and Elemental Primaries -
kanbo,
2015-08-21, 14:00
- Taken King and Elemental Primaries -
Cody Miller,
2015-08-21, 14:02
- Taken King and Elemental Primaries -
Korny,
2015-08-21, 14:10
- Void Bad Juju, plzthxbye - ZackDark, 2015-08-22, 02:35
- Taken King and Elemental Primaries -
kanbo,
2015-08-21, 14:13
- Taken King and Elemental Primaries -
Korny,
2015-08-21, 14:27
- Taken King and Elemental Primaries - kidtsunami, 2015-08-21, 14:35
- Taken King and Elemental Primaries - Robot Chickens, 2015-08-21, 17:23
- Taken King and Elemental Primaries -
Korny,
2015-08-21, 14:27
- Here's a thought: -
Revenant1988,
2015-08-21, 15:05
- Here's a thought: - CruelLEGACEY, 2015-08-21, 15:10
- Here's a thought: -
slycrel,
2015-08-21, 15:14
- +1 - CyberKN, 2015-08-21, 15:16
- Here's a thought: -
Claude Errera,
2015-08-21, 15:23
- Concurred, however - TheeChaos, 2015-08-21, 15:39
- Here's a thought: -
CruelLEGACEY,
2015-08-21, 15:39
- Here's a thought: -
Claude Errera,
2015-08-21, 16:22
- Airborn + Grounded make me giggle... - Korny, 2015-08-21, 16:29
- Here's a thought: -
CruelLEGACEY,
2015-08-21, 16:33
- Here's a thought: -
Claude Errera,
2015-08-21, 16:36
- Oh, I found a way ;) - CruelLEGACEY, 2015-08-21, 16:41
- Here's a thought: -
Claude Errera,
2015-08-21, 16:36
- Here's a thought: - slycrel, 2015-08-21, 16:38
- Modifiers tangent . . . - cheapLEY, 2015-08-21, 18:33
- Brawler + Circus Hunter = all the fun in the world - someotherguy, 2015-08-22, 16:52
- Here's a thought: -
Claude Errera,
2015-08-21, 16:22
- Here's a thought: -
Cody Miller,
2015-08-21, 15:50
- Here's a thought: -
Claude Errera,
2015-08-21, 16:24
- Here's a thought: -
marmot 1333,
2015-08-21, 16:44
- Here's a thought: - Claude Errera, 2015-08-21, 16:48
- Here's a thought: -
marmot 1333,
2015-08-21, 16:44
- Here's a thought: -
Claude Errera,
2015-08-21, 16:24
- Here's a thought: -
slycrel,
2015-08-21, 16:08
- +1 - kidtsunami, 2015-08-21, 16:10
- Fair enough. - Claude Errera, 2015-08-21, 16:25
- Here's a thought: -
Cody Miller,
2015-08-23, 20:30
- Here's a thought: -
Claude Errera,
2015-08-23, 22:19
- Here's a thought: -
Cody Miller,
2015-08-23, 23:01
- Different playstyles. :) - Claude Errera, 2015-08-23, 23:31
- Here's a thought: -
Cody Miller,
2015-08-23, 23:01
- Here's a thought: -
Claude Errera,
2015-08-23, 22:19
- Here's a thought: - Cody Miller, 2015-08-21, 15:46
- Taken King and Elemental Primaries -
Korny,
2015-08-21, 14:10
- Taken King and Elemental Primaries -
Cody Miller,
2015-08-21, 14:02
- You're right, I think...but -
Funkmon,
2015-08-21, 14:06
- You're right, I think...but -
Cody Miller,
2015-08-21, 14:35
- Yup, totally agree. - dogcow, 2015-08-21, 14:42
- You're right, I think...but -
unoudid,
2015-08-21, 15:36
- What if we're coming at this from the wrong angle? - CruelLEGACEY, 2015-08-21, 16:04
- You're right, I think...but -
Cody Miller,
2015-08-21, 14:35
- Totally agree, +1 -
kidtsunami,
2015-08-21, 14:35
- I'd nerf them - kidtsunami, 2015-08-21, 15:36
- They sort of did this (minus trials) in HoW -
slycrel,
2015-08-21, 14:38
- Actually... -
CruelLEGACEY,
2015-08-21, 14:41
- Actually... - Cody Miller, 2015-08-21, 14:41
- Yeah, I've done it 4 times and gotten a void auto-rifle once - slycrel, 2015-08-21, 15:02
- Actually... -
CruelLEGACEY,
2015-08-21, 14:41
- Agreed... -
Mid7night,
2015-08-21, 14:41
- Shut that dirty mouth of yours! ;-) - dogcow, 2015-08-21, 14:45
- Your opinions are bad and you should feel bad ;p - CruelLEGACEY, 2015-08-21, 14:49
- Counterpoint: All Legendaries should have elemental damage -
CyberKN,
2015-08-21, 14:45
- Why not just reduce the burn multiplier for primaries? -
iconicbanana,
2015-08-21, 14:46
- Primaries already do less damage then special weapons. - CyberKN, 2015-08-21, 14:46
- Why not just reduce the burn multiplier for primaries? -
iconicbanana,
2015-08-21, 14:46
- I'm torn on this -
CruelLEGACEY,
2015-08-21, 14:47
- I'm torn on this -
Cody Miller,
2015-08-21, 14:52
- I'm torn on this -
CyberKN,
2015-08-21, 14:57
- I'm torn on this -
CruelLEGACEY,
2015-08-21, 15:05
- I'm torn on this -
CyberKN,
2015-08-21, 15:10
- I'm torn on this - CruelLEGACEY, 2015-08-21, 15:27
- I'm torn on this -
Cody Miller,
2015-08-21, 15:52
- I'm torn on this -
CruelLEGACEY,
2015-08-21, 15:55
- I'm torn on this -
Cody Miller,
2015-08-21, 15:58
- I'm torn on this -
CyberKN,
2015-08-21, 16:45
- +1 - Claude Errera, 2015-08-21, 16:48
- I'm torn on this -
Cody Miller,
2015-08-21, 16:50
- We should race next time we do the Deathsinger. -
CyberKN,
2015-08-21, 16:54
- We should race next time we do the Deathsinger. -
Cody Miller,
2015-08-21, 16:57
- We should race next time we do the Deathsinger. -
CyberKN,
2015-08-21, 16:58
- We should race next time we do the Deathsinger. - Cody Miller, 2015-08-21, 17:00
- We should race next time we do the Deathsinger. -
CyberKN,
2015-08-21, 16:58
- We should race next time we do the Deathsinger. -
Cody Miller,
2015-08-21, 16:57
- I'm torn on this -
Claude Errera,
2015-08-21, 16:54
- I'm torn on this - Cody Miller, 2015-08-21, 16:56
- What Cody said, make the right choice Claude (ps4) - dogcow, 2015-08-21, 16:57
- I'm torn on this - CyberKN, 2015-08-21, 16:57
- I'm torn on this - dogcow, 2015-08-21, 17:01
- I know that one too. - Funkmon, 2015-08-21, 19:20
- We should race next time we do the Deathsinger. -
CyberKN,
2015-08-21, 16:54
- I'm torn on this -
Harmanimus,
2015-08-23, 23:41
- This could work - CyberKN, 2015-08-24, 01:27
- I'm torn on this -
CyberKN,
2015-08-21, 16:45
- I'm torn on this -
Cody Miller,
2015-08-21, 15:58
- I'm torn on this -
CruelLEGACEY,
2015-08-21, 15:55
- I'm torn on this -
CyberKN,
2015-08-21, 15:10
- I'm torn on this -
CruelLEGACEY,
2015-08-21, 15:05
- I'm torn on this -
CyberKN,
2015-08-21, 14:57
- Good point about nightfalls becoming un-fun. -
dogcow,
2015-08-21, 15:01
- On the flipside... -
slycrel,
2015-08-21, 16:21
- On the flipside... - cheapLEY, 2015-08-21, 21:51
- On the flipside... -
slycrel,
2015-08-21, 16:21
- I'm torn on this -
Cody Miller,
2015-08-21, 14:52
- Taken King and Elemental Primaries - marmot 1333, 2015-08-21, 15:01
- Solution? -
Cody Miller,
2015-08-26, 15:22
- Interesting idea -
CruelLEGACEY,
2015-08-26, 15:30
- It could just be a modifier - marmot 1333, 2015-08-26, 15:59
- Interesting idea -
Cody Miller,
2015-08-28, 00:08
- Sooooo scrap Fusion Rifles from early game? -
ZackDark,
2015-08-28, 01:23
- Sooooo scrap Fusion Rifles from early game? - stabbim, 2015-08-28, 03:04
- Sooooo scrap Fusion Rifles from early game? -
ZackDark,
2015-08-28, 01:23
- Interesting idea -
CruelLEGACEY,
2015-08-26, 15:30
- Taken King and Elemental Primaries -
kanbo,
2015-08-21, 14:00