I'm torn on this (Destiny)
If Thorn or TLW had Outlaw/Firefly, I'd use the hell out of them in PvE. I think you're over-exaggerating the importance of elemental damage, compared to what other attributes make guns desirable.
Outlaw+Firefly is one of those magic combos for PvE, isn't it? I've got several scout rifles with outlaw+firefly, and they are some of the only primaries without elemental damage that I use on a regular basis.But when the going gets tough (Nightfalls, 35 Prison of Elders) I go back to my elemental Raid or Trials primaries every single time.
Oh, I agree. It's our nature to try to stack the odds in our favour when facing a difficult challenge- why shouldn't we? Against Skolas, Every little bit helps.That's why I proposed making all primary legendaries/exotics have elemental damage as a counterpoint.
Yeah, that's an interesting suggestion. Just playing devil's advocate, there is one thing about the split between elemental and non-elemental weapons that I like. It gives Bungie another way to create guns that are more well suited to PvP or PvE. Word of Crota is a decent but unremarkable hand cannon, until you factor in the Void damage. Then it becomes fantastic in certain PvE situations. The old vendor TDYK had perks that made it a PvP beast, yet in PvE it is outclassed by many raid weapons or legendaries with other perk combos. Of course, limiting the number of primaries with elemental damage is not the only way to create these distinctions, but it gives Bungie more options.
Complete thread:
- Taken King and Elemental Primaries -
Cody Miller,
2015-08-21, 13:54
- Taken King and Elemental Primaries -
kanbo,
2015-08-21, 14:00
- Taken King and Elemental Primaries -
Cody Miller,
2015-08-21, 14:02
- Taken King and Elemental Primaries -
Korny,
2015-08-21, 14:10
- Void Bad Juju, plzthxbye - ZackDark, 2015-08-22, 02:35
- Taken King and Elemental Primaries -
kanbo,
2015-08-21, 14:13
- Taken King and Elemental Primaries -
Korny,
2015-08-21, 14:27
- Taken King and Elemental Primaries - kidtsunami, 2015-08-21, 14:35
- Taken King and Elemental Primaries - Robot Chickens, 2015-08-21, 17:23
- Taken King and Elemental Primaries -
Korny,
2015-08-21, 14:27
- Here's a thought: -
Revenant1988,
2015-08-21, 15:05
- Here's a thought: - CruelLEGACEY, 2015-08-21, 15:10
- Here's a thought: -
slycrel,
2015-08-21, 15:14
- +1 - CyberKN, 2015-08-21, 15:16
- Here's a thought: -
Claude Errera,
2015-08-21, 15:23
- Concurred, however - TheeChaos, 2015-08-21, 15:39
- Here's a thought: -
CruelLEGACEY,
2015-08-21, 15:39
- Here's a thought: -
Claude Errera,
2015-08-21, 16:22
- Airborn + Grounded make me giggle... - Korny, 2015-08-21, 16:29
- Here's a thought: -
CruelLEGACEY,
2015-08-21, 16:33
- Here's a thought: -
Claude Errera,
2015-08-21, 16:36
- Oh, I found a way ;) - CruelLEGACEY, 2015-08-21, 16:41
- Here's a thought: -
Claude Errera,
2015-08-21, 16:36
- Here's a thought: - slycrel, 2015-08-21, 16:38
- Modifiers tangent . . . - cheapLEY, 2015-08-21, 18:33
- Brawler + Circus Hunter = all the fun in the world - someotherguy, 2015-08-22, 16:52
- Here's a thought: -
Claude Errera,
2015-08-21, 16:22
- Here's a thought: -
Cody Miller,
2015-08-21, 15:50
- Here's a thought: -
Claude Errera,
2015-08-21, 16:24
- Here's a thought: -
marmot 1333,
2015-08-21, 16:44
- Here's a thought: - Claude Errera, 2015-08-21, 16:48
- Here's a thought: -
marmot 1333,
2015-08-21, 16:44
- Here's a thought: -
Claude Errera,
2015-08-21, 16:24
- Here's a thought: -
slycrel,
2015-08-21, 16:08
- +1 - kidtsunami, 2015-08-21, 16:10
- Fair enough. - Claude Errera, 2015-08-21, 16:25
- Here's a thought: -
Cody Miller,
2015-08-23, 20:30
- Here's a thought: -
Claude Errera,
2015-08-23, 22:19
- Here's a thought: -
Cody Miller,
2015-08-23, 23:01
- Different playstyles. :) - Claude Errera, 2015-08-23, 23:31
- Here's a thought: -
Cody Miller,
2015-08-23, 23:01
- Here's a thought: -
Claude Errera,
2015-08-23, 22:19
- Here's a thought: - Cody Miller, 2015-08-21, 15:46
- Taken King and Elemental Primaries -
Korny,
2015-08-21, 14:10
- Taken King and Elemental Primaries -
Cody Miller,
2015-08-21, 14:02
- You're right, I think...but -
Funkmon,
2015-08-21, 14:06
- You're right, I think...but -
Cody Miller,
2015-08-21, 14:35
- Yup, totally agree. - dogcow, 2015-08-21, 14:42
- You're right, I think...but -
unoudid,
2015-08-21, 15:36
- What if we're coming at this from the wrong angle? - CruelLEGACEY, 2015-08-21, 16:04
- You're right, I think...but -
Cody Miller,
2015-08-21, 14:35
- Totally agree, +1 -
kidtsunami,
2015-08-21, 14:35
- I'd nerf them - kidtsunami, 2015-08-21, 15:36
- They sort of did this (minus trials) in HoW -
slycrel,
2015-08-21, 14:38
- Actually... -
CruelLEGACEY,
2015-08-21, 14:41
- Actually... - Cody Miller, 2015-08-21, 14:41
- Yeah, I've done it 4 times and gotten a void auto-rifle once - slycrel, 2015-08-21, 15:02
- Actually... -
CruelLEGACEY,
2015-08-21, 14:41
- Agreed... -
Mid7night,
2015-08-21, 14:41
- Shut that dirty mouth of yours! ;-) - dogcow, 2015-08-21, 14:45
- Your opinions are bad and you should feel bad ;p - CruelLEGACEY, 2015-08-21, 14:49
- Counterpoint: All Legendaries should have elemental damage -
CyberKN,
2015-08-21, 14:45
- Why not just reduce the burn multiplier for primaries? -
iconicbanana,
2015-08-21, 14:46
- Primaries already do less damage then special weapons. - CyberKN, 2015-08-21, 14:46
- Why not just reduce the burn multiplier for primaries? -
iconicbanana,
2015-08-21, 14:46
- I'm torn on this -
CruelLEGACEY,
2015-08-21, 14:47
- I'm torn on this -
Cody Miller,
2015-08-21, 14:52
- I'm torn on this -
CyberKN,
2015-08-21, 14:57
- I'm torn on this -
CruelLEGACEY,
2015-08-21, 15:05
- I'm torn on this -
CyberKN,
2015-08-21, 15:10
- I'm torn on this - CruelLEGACEY, 2015-08-21, 15:27
- I'm torn on this -
Cody Miller,
2015-08-21, 15:52
- I'm torn on this -
CruelLEGACEY,
2015-08-21, 15:55
- I'm torn on this -
Cody Miller,
2015-08-21, 15:58
- I'm torn on this -
CyberKN,
2015-08-21, 16:45
- +1 - Claude Errera, 2015-08-21, 16:48
- I'm torn on this -
Cody Miller,
2015-08-21, 16:50
- We should race next time we do the Deathsinger. -
CyberKN,
2015-08-21, 16:54
- We should race next time we do the Deathsinger. -
Cody Miller,
2015-08-21, 16:57
- We should race next time we do the Deathsinger. -
CyberKN,
2015-08-21, 16:58
- We should race next time we do the Deathsinger. - Cody Miller, 2015-08-21, 17:00
- We should race next time we do the Deathsinger. -
CyberKN,
2015-08-21, 16:58
- We should race next time we do the Deathsinger. -
Cody Miller,
2015-08-21, 16:57
- I'm torn on this -
Claude Errera,
2015-08-21, 16:54
- I'm torn on this - Cody Miller, 2015-08-21, 16:56
- What Cody said, make the right choice Claude (ps4) - dogcow, 2015-08-21, 16:57
- I'm torn on this - CyberKN, 2015-08-21, 16:57
- I'm torn on this - dogcow, 2015-08-21, 17:01
- I know that one too. - Funkmon, 2015-08-21, 19:20
- We should race next time we do the Deathsinger. -
CyberKN,
2015-08-21, 16:54
- I'm torn on this -
Harmanimus,
2015-08-23, 23:41
- This could work - CyberKN, 2015-08-24, 01:27
- I'm torn on this -
CyberKN,
2015-08-21, 16:45
- I'm torn on this -
Cody Miller,
2015-08-21, 15:58
- I'm torn on this -
CruelLEGACEY,
2015-08-21, 15:55
- I'm torn on this -
CyberKN,
2015-08-21, 15:10
- I'm torn on this -
CruelLEGACEY,
2015-08-21, 15:05
- I'm torn on this -
CyberKN,
2015-08-21, 14:57
- Good point about nightfalls becoming un-fun. -
dogcow,
2015-08-21, 15:01
- On the flipside... -
slycrel,
2015-08-21, 16:21
- On the flipside... - cheapLEY, 2015-08-21, 21:51
- On the flipside... -
slycrel,
2015-08-21, 16:21
- I'm torn on this -
Cody Miller,
2015-08-21, 14:52
- Taken King and Elemental Primaries - marmot 1333, 2015-08-21, 15:01
- Solution? -
Cody Miller,
2015-08-26, 15:22
- Interesting idea -
CruelLEGACEY,
2015-08-26, 15:30
- It could just be a modifier - marmot 1333, 2015-08-26, 15:59
- Interesting idea -
Cody Miller,
2015-08-28, 00:08
- Sooooo scrap Fusion Rifles from early game? -
ZackDark,
2015-08-28, 01:23
- Sooooo scrap Fusion Rifles from early game? - stabbim, 2015-08-28, 03:04
- Sooooo scrap Fusion Rifles from early game? -
ZackDark,
2015-08-28, 01:23
- Interesting idea -
CruelLEGACEY,
2015-08-26, 15:30
- Taken King and Elemental Primaries -
kanbo,
2015-08-21, 14:00