Here's a thought: (Destiny)
Personally speaking, I really enjoy the elemental primaries. I like the dynamic they add to these high level PvE activities. Where Cody is coming from (I think, please correct me if I'm wrong, Cody) is that these weapons do, at times, turn the nightfall strikes into a bit of a joke. Personally, I think they're a lot of fun. But I do understand how someone could make the argument that these missions are supposed to be some of the toughest in the game, and elemental primaries break that a bit.
I guess this leads into a bigger area that I have a problem with:
I don't think Nightfalls have been 'tough' for a while. (I guess I should explain that 'tough', here, is being used in a specific sense: difficult, but not tedious.)
I think that a year in, with the same half-dozen missions, the only way to make Nightfalls take longer than 10 minutes is to up the damage done by enemies, and nerf the damage done by Guardians. The tactics haven't changed a whit in months.
The only time a Nightfall is more than a cakewalk for a level 34 Guardian is when the skulls make it very hard to kill the enemy, at the same time making it easy for the enemy to wipe us out. And when that happens, people come here (and to other forums) and bitch about it.
A couple of weeks ago, both Brawler and Lightswitch were on - and I thought it was fantastic. I was suddenly faced with a choice I am rarely faced with: should I do what I normally do when Lightswitch is on, and hang back and play the long game, or should I take advantage of the super-fun Brawler modifier and run in there for some close quarters combat, hoping I can either kill with one punch or at least stun so I can dance away from danger?
Other than this memorable (to me) pairing of modifiers, though, Nightfalls are pretty much standard fare these days - they just take longer than other missions. I don't really see reducing that 'grind' (hate calling it that, because I really don't feel most parts of this game are a grind) by offering elemental primaries as a bad thing.
I think CyberKN's suggestion of allowing ALL Legendaries to have elemental burns to be a nice solution to the situation, personally.
Complete thread:
- Taken King and Elemental Primaries -
Cody Miller,
2015-08-21, 13:54
- Taken King and Elemental Primaries -
kanbo,
2015-08-21, 14:00
- Taken King and Elemental Primaries -
Cody Miller,
2015-08-21, 14:02
- Taken King and Elemental Primaries -
Korny,
2015-08-21, 14:10
- Void Bad Juju, plzthxbye - ZackDark, 2015-08-22, 02:35
- Taken King and Elemental Primaries -
kanbo,
2015-08-21, 14:13
- Taken King and Elemental Primaries -
Korny,
2015-08-21, 14:27
- Taken King and Elemental Primaries - kidtsunami, 2015-08-21, 14:35
- Taken King and Elemental Primaries - Robot Chickens, 2015-08-21, 17:23
- Taken King and Elemental Primaries -
Korny,
2015-08-21, 14:27
- Here's a thought: -
Revenant1988,
2015-08-21, 15:05
- Here's a thought: - CruelLEGACEY, 2015-08-21, 15:10
- Here's a thought: -
slycrel,
2015-08-21, 15:14
- +1 - CyberKN, 2015-08-21, 15:16
- Here's a thought: -
Claude Errera,
2015-08-21, 15:23
- Concurred, however - TheeChaos, 2015-08-21, 15:39
- Here's a thought: -
CruelLEGACEY,
2015-08-21, 15:39
- Here's a thought: -
Claude Errera,
2015-08-21, 16:22
- Airborn + Grounded make me giggle... - Korny, 2015-08-21, 16:29
- Here's a thought: -
CruelLEGACEY,
2015-08-21, 16:33
- Here's a thought: -
Claude Errera,
2015-08-21, 16:36
- Oh, I found a way ;) - CruelLEGACEY, 2015-08-21, 16:41
- Here's a thought: -
Claude Errera,
2015-08-21, 16:36
- Here's a thought: - slycrel, 2015-08-21, 16:38
- Modifiers tangent . . . - cheapLEY, 2015-08-21, 18:33
- Brawler + Circus Hunter = all the fun in the world - someotherguy, 2015-08-22, 16:52
- Here's a thought: -
Claude Errera,
2015-08-21, 16:22
- Here's a thought: -
Cody Miller,
2015-08-21, 15:50
- Here's a thought: -
Claude Errera,
2015-08-21, 16:24
- Here's a thought: -
marmot 1333,
2015-08-21, 16:44
- Here's a thought: - Claude Errera, 2015-08-21, 16:48
- Here's a thought: -
marmot 1333,
2015-08-21, 16:44
- Here's a thought: -
Claude Errera,
2015-08-21, 16:24
- Here's a thought: -
slycrel,
2015-08-21, 16:08
- +1 - kidtsunami, 2015-08-21, 16:10
- Fair enough. - Claude Errera, 2015-08-21, 16:25
- Here's a thought: -
Cody Miller,
2015-08-23, 20:30
- Here's a thought: -
Claude Errera,
2015-08-23, 22:19
- Here's a thought: -
Cody Miller,
2015-08-23, 23:01
- Different playstyles. :) - Claude Errera, 2015-08-23, 23:31
- Here's a thought: -
Cody Miller,
2015-08-23, 23:01
- Here's a thought: -
Claude Errera,
2015-08-23, 22:19
- Here's a thought: - Cody Miller, 2015-08-21, 15:46
- Taken King and Elemental Primaries -
Korny,
2015-08-21, 14:10
- Taken King and Elemental Primaries -
Cody Miller,
2015-08-21, 14:02
- You're right, I think...but -
Funkmon,
2015-08-21, 14:06
- You're right, I think...but -
Cody Miller,
2015-08-21, 14:35
- Yup, totally agree. - dogcow, 2015-08-21, 14:42
- You're right, I think...but -
unoudid,
2015-08-21, 15:36
- What if we're coming at this from the wrong angle? - CruelLEGACEY, 2015-08-21, 16:04
- You're right, I think...but -
Cody Miller,
2015-08-21, 14:35
- Totally agree, +1 -
kidtsunami,
2015-08-21, 14:35
- I'd nerf them - kidtsunami, 2015-08-21, 15:36
- They sort of did this (minus trials) in HoW -
slycrel,
2015-08-21, 14:38
- Actually... -
CruelLEGACEY,
2015-08-21, 14:41
- Actually... - Cody Miller, 2015-08-21, 14:41
- Yeah, I've done it 4 times and gotten a void auto-rifle once - slycrel, 2015-08-21, 15:02
- Actually... -
CruelLEGACEY,
2015-08-21, 14:41
- Agreed... -
Mid7night,
2015-08-21, 14:41
- Shut that dirty mouth of yours! ;-) - dogcow, 2015-08-21, 14:45
- Your opinions are bad and you should feel bad ;p - CruelLEGACEY, 2015-08-21, 14:49
- Counterpoint: All Legendaries should have elemental damage -
CyberKN,
2015-08-21, 14:45
- Why not just reduce the burn multiplier for primaries? -
iconicbanana,
2015-08-21, 14:46
- Primaries already do less damage then special weapons. - CyberKN, 2015-08-21, 14:46
- Why not just reduce the burn multiplier for primaries? -
iconicbanana,
2015-08-21, 14:46
- I'm torn on this -
CruelLEGACEY,
2015-08-21, 14:47
- I'm torn on this -
Cody Miller,
2015-08-21, 14:52
- I'm torn on this -
CyberKN,
2015-08-21, 14:57
- I'm torn on this -
CruelLEGACEY,
2015-08-21, 15:05
- I'm torn on this -
CyberKN,
2015-08-21, 15:10
- I'm torn on this - CruelLEGACEY, 2015-08-21, 15:27
- I'm torn on this -
Cody Miller,
2015-08-21, 15:52
- I'm torn on this -
CruelLEGACEY,
2015-08-21, 15:55
- I'm torn on this -
Cody Miller,
2015-08-21, 15:58
- I'm torn on this -
CyberKN,
2015-08-21, 16:45
- +1 - Claude Errera, 2015-08-21, 16:48
- I'm torn on this -
Cody Miller,
2015-08-21, 16:50
- We should race next time we do the Deathsinger. -
CyberKN,
2015-08-21, 16:54
- We should race next time we do the Deathsinger. -
Cody Miller,
2015-08-21, 16:57
- We should race next time we do the Deathsinger. -
CyberKN,
2015-08-21, 16:58
- We should race next time we do the Deathsinger. - Cody Miller, 2015-08-21, 17:00
- We should race next time we do the Deathsinger. -
CyberKN,
2015-08-21, 16:58
- We should race next time we do the Deathsinger. -
Cody Miller,
2015-08-21, 16:57
- I'm torn on this -
Claude Errera,
2015-08-21, 16:54
- I'm torn on this - Cody Miller, 2015-08-21, 16:56
- What Cody said, make the right choice Claude (ps4) - dogcow, 2015-08-21, 16:57
- I'm torn on this - CyberKN, 2015-08-21, 16:57
- I'm torn on this - dogcow, 2015-08-21, 17:01
- I know that one too. - Funkmon, 2015-08-21, 19:20
- We should race next time we do the Deathsinger. -
CyberKN,
2015-08-21, 16:54
- I'm torn on this -
Harmanimus,
2015-08-23, 23:41
- This could work - CyberKN, 2015-08-24, 01:27
- I'm torn on this -
CyberKN,
2015-08-21, 16:45
- I'm torn on this -
Cody Miller,
2015-08-21, 15:58
- I'm torn on this -
CruelLEGACEY,
2015-08-21, 15:55
- I'm torn on this -
CyberKN,
2015-08-21, 15:10
- I'm torn on this -
CruelLEGACEY,
2015-08-21, 15:05
- I'm torn on this -
CyberKN,
2015-08-21, 14:57
- Good point about nightfalls becoming un-fun. -
dogcow,
2015-08-21, 15:01
- On the flipside... -
slycrel,
2015-08-21, 16:21
- On the flipside... - cheapLEY, 2015-08-21, 21:51
- On the flipside... -
slycrel,
2015-08-21, 16:21
- I'm torn on this -
Cody Miller,
2015-08-21, 14:52
- Taken King and Elemental Primaries - marmot 1333, 2015-08-21, 15:01
- Solution? -
Cody Miller,
2015-08-26, 15:22
- Interesting idea -
CruelLEGACEY,
2015-08-26, 15:30
- It could just be a modifier - marmot 1333, 2015-08-26, 15:59
- Interesting idea -
Cody Miller,
2015-08-28, 00:08
- Sooooo scrap Fusion Rifles from early game? -
ZackDark,
2015-08-28, 01:23
- Sooooo scrap Fusion Rifles from early game? - stabbim, 2015-08-28, 03:04
- Sooooo scrap Fusion Rifles from early game? -
ZackDark,
2015-08-28, 01:23
- Interesting idea -
CruelLEGACEY,
2015-08-26, 15:30
- Taken King and Elemental Primaries -
kanbo,
2015-08-21, 14:00