Destiny Update v1.0.3 (Destiny)

by General Vagueness , The Vault of Sass, Monday, November 17, 2014, 17:35 (3451 days ago) @ Kermit
edited by General Vagueness, Monday, November 17, 2014, 17:46

How should I have known? Where did they say that before release? Where did they say anyone not paying for DLC would need to download it (and clog up their hard drive and Internet connection for stuff they can't use)?

How about the dozens of times in interviews when they said that this game would change over time and they had designed it such that they could change it over time. Did you assume they would make it smaller?

They never said they were going make massive, mandatory updates, and none of the updates so far indicated this would happen. The thing about "growing and changing with time" doesn't mean anything anyway, it's clearly marketing speak.

I want to say some things that Ragashingo will think are immature but I'll just reiterate: I shouldn't have to. Why not just make the game reserve all the space it'll ever need when you do the install (and tell you how much that is!) so no one has to do this dance?

How could they possibly know this?

planning? "hey guys, we can't go over this number for patches" "oh OK"
I'm not saying it has to be small or even that reasonable, I just would like it to exist.

...There's payment for the game, payment for the console, payment for Xbox Live, payment for all the auxiliary things like an Internet connection and electricity and a TV, and now this. I just want to play a game on my little game box (and enjoy this update that's supposedly so great), not invest in general-purpose storage so I don't permanently lose things that are currently safe and that I had minimal reason to mess with until now.

Your little game box that is seven years old (and if you bought it seven years ago, you've certainly gotten your money's worth). Your little game box is able to run a state of the art game because the developers cared enough to support your little game box. They compromised so you could play. Memory is relatively cheap and the only way keep your system viable, but it seems you're not willing to compromise on principle because you didn't hear the part about how the game would continue to grow with time?

I'll do it because I bought it and I'm this deep into it and I fortunately don't have to buy anything else for it at present.

How did we get to this? We're at point where PC games are "click a few times, download, click play", or "put in a disk, let it install, click play", or "load up a website, click play", while console games require a disk or a download, an Internet connection, space on what will inevitably become a quite limited hard drive (more so with the new consoles and with Destiny in particular), install time, the blood of nine and a half virgins, and prettified progress bars, until the mandatory update to make the game less broken when you have to repeat two thirds of it over again. Plus you have to wait for the console to start up, and for the game to start up, and for the game to check you're allowed to play and the DLC is in order and other things, before you can start playing. You can do that, or play the other game you want to play, but only once you've bought the new shiny game box that you can't afford for several months, and surprise! it has even more problems. How did we get to a point where PC gaming is (slightly) more convenient and capable than console gaming (and yet somehow less popular and just as expensive to stay current)?

PCs are still more expensive and less convenient, IMHO. [Note the spaces I'm putting between your mounds of text.]

It's a rant, it's immune to your English powers.

I mean heck, backwards compatibility, that's a no-brainer on PC, on consoles people drink the proverbial kool aid of it "holding things back", as if that means something other than "oops, we changed the processor and chipset on a fundamental level, again, and we can't include the old ones even though they're ancient and cheap now because fuck you".

PC gamers have some advantages. Maybe you should consider becoming one.

I'd love to. (Well, maybe not love to, I'm still working on getting some working memory, which I wouldn't be able to use with a new, more worthwhile computer, which we should probably get, but I'd be OK with a PC as the focus of my gaming.) I can't because every new thing I want to play is only on consoles.

Oh and the patch notes say "Improved patch installation process"-- looks the same to me-- and give no hint as to size.

They should tell you. I agree. Wasn't hard to find out, though.

I went and looked and I can't seem to find it. I know you said something about 2.44 GB, and I saw that, but I really doubt that's the same for every platform, just like the game itself and the initial install were all different. Plus that's almost half the size of the current installed content, that's DLC-sized, that makes it seem like they're forcing everyone to download the DLC whether they can access it or not, and they wouldn't do something that du-- no, I know this... they would probably do something that dumb, because if I'm playing this long and jumping through hoops I'll probably keep playing after this. Bungie, now you've got me using Cody Miller logic, are you happy?

I'm getting a headache thinking about all this.
Is this overly dramatic? Probably. Is it too long? That's what she said. Also probably. Do I think I'm justified in being upset? Yes. Do I think I'll still feel justified tomorrow or next week? Yes.

It's your energy you're expending. Keep in mind, though, the game is going to continue to get bigger. Now you know.

I don't know that because no one that actually has any say in it has said so. (I am getting so fucking sick of this lack of communication and people just being OK with it. [To be fair, it's not just Bungie, it's not just game developers, it's everyone, I detest this tight-lipped part of our culture that I discover more and more every year.]) Maybe I'm edging into unreasonable territory, but I have sobering news: there are people out there far less reasonable than me and even dumber than me, and they buy things too (and they vote, but I don't want to give anyone nightmares).