But that's not what I'm talking about (Destiny)
If I get killed by Thorn, 9 times out of 10 it's the impact damage that kills me, not the poison.
And that's fine. I've said so many times that if I'm beaten in a straight shootout (or even a lopsided one) I'm cool with it. If you're better than me I'll be dead, and you'll be alive - that's the entire FPS dynamic.
Agree to disagree, dude.
I'm telling y'all it's all in your head.
I don't understand. Am I supposed to believe that the times I've been postmortemed (or got one - I've been known to pull out Thorn on occasion) didn't happen?
If your argument was "Yeah it does that and I think it's fair" then I'd understand. I'd disagree, but I'd get it. But the argument as far as I understand is "Nah, that doesn't happen, don't be silly. It just gets in your head is all".
Maybe it doesn't happen to you, but it happens to me (and others, evidently) frequently. Don't act like it's a non-issue just because it doesn't happen to you. (Also please stop suggesting I "not panic" when I've said multiple times that that's not the problem.)
Side note: It's also not that I notice Thorn more often. I always know what kills me, because I check the top-right corner.
The gun is fine for normal play, ToO is what needs some tweaking. The only way for it all to be "fair" is Final Destination, no items, Fox McCloud only.
It doesn't need to be "fair". Few Exotics are. Just let it be a reflection of skill, rather than bridging a skill gap by messing with the fundamental FPS dynamic.
My proposal would be just to stop the DoT if the wielder dies - would let a skilled player save themself while still keeping most of it's current usefulness (and still melting people who try to run instead of fight).
Complete thread:
- As someone who had Thorn before it got buffed.... -
Spec ops Grunt,
2015-05-27, 06:57
- As someone who had Thorn before it got buffed.... - petetheduck, 2015-05-27, 09:56
- #nerfexotichandcannons - iconicbanana, 2015-05-27, 11:19
- As someone who had Thorn before it got buffed.... - unoudid, 2015-05-27, 11:24
- As someone who had Thorn before it got buffed.... -
MacAddictXIV,
2015-05-27, 11:51
- As someone who had Thorn before it got buffed.... - Pfhor, 2015-05-27, 13:14
- As someone who had Thorn before it got buffed.... - TheeChaos, 2015-05-27, 11:54
- It's a general problem -
Avateur,
2015-05-27, 11:56
- It's a general problem -
yakaman,
2015-05-27, 12:02
- It's a general problem -
Avateur,
2015-05-27, 12:09
- I'm an AR stealth-buff believer. -
Kahzgul,
2015-05-27, 13:26
- I'm an AR stealth-buff believer. -
Avateur,
2015-05-27, 18:44
- I'm an AR stealth-buff believer. - Kahzgul, 2015-05-28, 16:21
- I'm an AR stealth-buff believer. -
Avateur,
2015-05-27, 18:44
- Thorn, TLW and (maybe) Vex are highest DPS in game. - someotherguy, 2015-05-27, 15:08
- I'm an AR stealth-buff believer. -
Kahzgul,
2015-05-27, 13:26
- It's a general problem -
Avateur,
2015-05-27, 12:09
- It's a general problem - Monochron, 2015-05-27, 12:10
- It's a general problem -
yakaman,
2015-05-27, 12:02
- It's not. -
Revenant1988,
2015-05-27, 12:19
- Oh you - Avateur, 2015-05-27, 12:22
- Agree. - INSANEdrive, 2015-05-27, 12:47
- It's not. -
CommandrCleavage,
2015-05-27, 14:15
- It's not. - unoudid, 2015-05-27, 15:05
- It's not. - MacAddictXIV, 2015-05-27, 15:33
- Lingering damage is the definition of bullsh*t -
someotherguy,
2015-05-27, 15:37
- Lingering damage is the definition of bullsh*t -
Kahzgul,
2015-05-27, 16:01
- Lingering damage is the definition of bullsh*t - bluerunner, 2015-05-27, 16:07
- That should have been the Exotic Perk -
someotherguy,
2015-05-27, 16:23
- That should have been the Exotic Perk -
Xenos,
2015-05-27, 18:47
- Fairer Alternative? -
someotherguy,
2015-05-27, 20:26
- Fairer Alternative? -
CyberKN,
2015-05-27, 20:30
- Fairer Alternative? -
someotherguy,
2015-05-27, 20:35
- Fairer Alternative? -
Ragashingo,
2015-05-27, 20:43
- Fairer Alternative? -
CyberKN,
2015-05-27, 20:46
- Fairer Alternative? - Ragashingo, 2015-05-27, 20:49
- Fairer Alternative? -
CyberKN,
2015-05-27, 20:46
- Fairer Alternative? -
Ragashingo,
2015-05-27, 20:43
- Fairer Alternative? -
someotherguy,
2015-05-27, 20:35
- Double edged sword? -
iconicbanana,
2015-05-27, 20:42
- Double edged sword? - CyberKN, 2015-05-27, 20:45
- Ha. Call the perk "Every Rose..." - someotherguy, 2015-05-27, 20:58
- Fairer Alternative? -
CyberKN,
2015-05-27, 20:30
- Fairer Alternative? -
someotherguy,
2015-05-27, 20:26
- That should have been the Exotic Perk -
Xenos,
2015-05-27, 18:47
- I don't get you people, at all. Maybe Thorn isn't the issue. -
Revenant1988,
2015-05-27, 16:55
- I don't get you people, at all. Maybe Thorn isn't the issue. -
MacAddictXIV,
2015-05-27, 17:24
- I don't get you people, at all. Maybe Thorn isn't the issue. -
Revenant1988,
2015-05-27, 17:31
- I don't get you people, at all. Maybe Thorn isn't the issue. - MacAddictXIV, 2015-05-27, 18:57
- I don't get you people, at all. Maybe Thorn isn't the issue. - someotherguy, 2015-05-27, 20:17
- I don't get you people, at all. Maybe Thorn isn't the issue. -
Revenant1988,
2015-05-27, 17:31
- I don't get you people, at all. Maybe Thorn isn't the issue. - Avateur, 2015-05-27, 19:00
- But that's not what I'm talking about -
someotherguy,
2015-05-27, 20:13
- This exactly - Avateur, 2015-05-27, 21:26
- +1 -
CrazedOne,
2015-05-27, 21:49
- +1 - MacAddictXIV, 2015-05-28, 13:33
- But that's not what I'm talking about -
Revenant1988,
2015-05-28, 10:51
- Maybe you suck at Crucible? -
Avateur,
2015-05-28, 11:56
- Maybe you suck at Crucible? -
Revenant1988,
2015-05-28, 13:22
- Maybe you suck at Crucible? - Avateur, 2015-05-28, 22:47
- Maybe you suck at Crucible? -
Revenant1988,
2015-05-28, 13:22
- But that's not what I'm talking about -
someotherguy,
2015-05-28, 15:22
- But that's not what I'm talking about -
ZackDark,
2015-05-28, 15:48
- Totally possible - someotherguy, 2015-05-28, 15:55
- Why I think ToO needs tweaked. -
Revenant1988,
2015-05-28, 16:22
- Civil Discourse wins again - someotherguy, 2015-05-28, 18:24
- But that's not what I'm talking about -
ZackDark,
2015-05-28, 15:48
- Maybe you suck at Crucible? -
Avateur,
2015-05-28, 11:56
- But that's not what I'm talking about -
Claude Errera,
2015-05-28, 15:07
- I anticipated this actually - someotherguy, 2015-05-28, 15:33
- I don't get you people, at all. Maybe Thorn isn't the issue. -
MacAddictXIV,
2015-05-27, 17:24
- Lingering damage is the definition of bullsh*t -
Kahzgul,
2015-05-27, 16:01
- I don't mind the DPS but obscuring my screen is too much. - Vortech, 2015-06-01, 15:54
- As someone who uses Thorn almost exclusively in PvP... - iconicbanana, 2015-05-28, 15:25