Actually: *SPOILERS* (Off-Topic)

by Xenos , Shores of Time, Tuesday, December 22, 2015, 17:35 (3248 days ago) @ cheapLEY

So, not a refutation of every point, just most of them.

3. Kylo Ren, a powerful Force-user, fights a light saber duel with an ex-janitor who has never held a light saber and yet (a) never uses the Force on his opponent, though doing so would have ended the duel immediately, and (b) barely wins the fight, suggesting that he is simultaneously one of the least strategic wielders of the Force the Dark Side has ever seen and, despite his training, absolutely terrible with a light saber. None of this stops Kylo Ren from designing and building his own, completely impractical cross-barred lightsaber.

I see this complaint all the time, and it's stupid. He handily wins the fight against Finn; it's not even close. Keep in mind that he's wounded. But how do we know what Finn's training is? Finn fights another Stormtrooper with that electrified club thing; maybe Finn has trained with that thing? He handled himself alright in that fight, so it's a possibility.

Also, Kylo Ren is powerful. He doesn't need to use the Force to dispatch a Stormtrooper. We also don't know how much training he's actually had with a lightsaber. He's not anywhere close to as proficient as Vader was, but everyone seems to think he's already this super bad ass villian when the movie pretty clearly shows us he's not.

Yeah I actually think Kylo was toying with him up until the point that Finn grazes his shoulder. After that Kylo destroys Finn.