
Feels reductive. (Destiny)
The ability to have games roll them randomly allows people who specifically enjoy that excitement at their option to continually have that moment of surprise. I fully understand there are people who don't feel that way, but I consider that a more than valid consideration.
This is all valid if you're talking about decoding an engram or something. I'm baffled that anyone would expect me to pay actual money for it, though.
Actually, scratch that. As I was typing that paragraph this whole debate came into perspective for me (I think). From your perspective, you're arguing that people who enjoy what is essentially gambling should be allowed to enjoy it. Here's what might surprise you: I don't disagree. I don't think anyone on my side of the argument actually does. In theory I'm fine with those folks having an outlet, and it's not for me to dictate how they spend their money (even though I do think it's dumb).
I think what I, and others, are really getting at is that some of us would be more willing to spend money on cosmetic items if we KNEW what we were getting. There was another post where someone framed this all as a divide between having disposable income or not, but actually I don't think it's as simple as that, because there's more than just a black-and-white distinction between people who do have disposable income or do not. Some people have MORE disposable income than others. For instance, I could get away with spending 5 bucks on something once. That is a number I know my budget can deal with. And it's not totally unfeasible that I might spend 5 bucks once for something I really liked. But I wouldn't even consider STARTING the process of buying $1 RNG chances, because I don't know how much I'd have to spend before I get something I actually want to keep. It's possible that I might end up spending 30 or 40 bucks before a drop I like came along, and there's just not room in my budget for me to throw that much money at every frivolous thing I come across. But some people CAN throw that money away, and the current system is for them.
(Please note that I'm just making up numbers here; I haven't bought silver and I don't know the pricing. Just substitute the real numbers for whatever I post.)
So the thing is, Bungie is currently getting no dollars out of me for ornaments. It's not that I hate Bungie, or even that I'm withholding money as a protest. It's simply not practical for me to spend anything in that manner. They will continue to get no dollars for the foreseeable future because I'm not gambling for ornaments. They could potentially get 5 (or whatever the price point would be for a set purchase). Now, whether that is BETTER for them is something their number crunchers would have to answer, although I'm not sure they can really know without trying it both ways and comparing. All I can say is what would get more out of me individually, and the current system is not it.
Complete thread:
- Let's Talk Silver Dust -
someotherguy,
2016-10-05, 12:37
- Addendum -
someotherguy,
2016-10-05, 12:48
- I've been thinking about this as well. -
unoudid,
2016-10-05, 14:29
- Purchase Ornaments Directly -
someotherguy,
2016-10-05, 14:37
- Purchase Ornaments Directly -
stabbim,
2016-10-06, 13:38
- Purchase Ornaments Directly -
Xenos,
2016-10-06, 13:41
- Purchase Ornaments Directly -
unoudid,
2016-10-06, 13:58
- Pro-Tip for Emote Collector's - unoudid, 2016-10-06, 14:54
- Purchase Ornaments Directly -
unoudid,
2016-10-06, 13:58
- Purchase Ornaments Directly -
Xenos,
2016-10-06, 13:41
- Purchase Ornaments Directly -
stabbim,
2016-10-06, 13:38
- I've been thinking about this as well. -
Grizzlei,
2016-10-05, 15:48
- I've been thinking about this as well. - unoudid, 2016-10-05, 16:17
- Purchase Ornaments Directly -
someotherguy,
2016-10-05, 14:37
- I've been thinking about this as well. -
unoudid,
2016-10-05, 14:29
- Let's Talk Silver Dust -
Revenant1988,
2016-10-05, 14:59
- I H8 U -
unoudid,
2016-10-05, 15:15
- You can have mine! -
Grizzlei,
2016-10-05, 15:31
- RNG would make so much more sense if there were trading... -
ObsidianKitteh,
2016-10-05, 15:35
- RNG would make so much more sense if there were trading... - Grizzlei, 2016-10-05, 15:38
- OTOH, that is exactly where my line is for being bothered.
- Vortech, 2016-10-06, 20:33
- That would be awesome :(
- unoudid, 2016-10-05, 15:48
- RNG would make so much more sense if there were trading... -
ObsidianKitteh,
2016-10-05, 15:35
- You can have mine! -
Grizzlei,
2016-10-05, 15:31
- I H8 U -
unoudid,
2016-10-05, 15:15
- Meh.
- Funkmon, 2016-10-05, 15:02
- What's wrong with this view... -
Earendil,
2016-10-05, 15:27
- What's wrong with this view... -
MacAddictXIV,
2016-10-05, 15:31
- Your trade money for time, not RNG bypass -
Earendil,
2016-10-05, 15:40
- Your trade money for time, not RNG bypass - ObsidianKitteh, 2016-10-05, 15:44
- Note that time is not unlimited... -
slycrel,
2016-10-05, 16:12
- Note that time is not unlimited... - Kahzgul, 2016-10-05, 17:53
- Me, as another example.
- Vortech, 2016-10-06, 20:35
- Your trade money for time, not RNG bypass -
unoudid,
2016-10-05, 16:14
- If the movie stinks, Just don't go. - Vortech, 2016-10-06, 20:47
- You could be right, but if so it's been poorly communicated -
someotherguy,
2016-10-05, 17:42
- Real world examples -
Earendil,
2016-10-05, 20:58
- Real world examples -
someotherguy,
2016-10-05, 21:08
- Real world examples - Harmanimus, 2016-10-06, 16:26
- Real world examples -
someotherguy,
2016-10-05, 21:08
- Real world examples -
Earendil,
2016-10-05, 20:58
- Your trade money for time, not RNG bypass -
stabbim,
2016-10-06, 14:17
- +1 -
unoudid,
2016-10-06, 14:31
- +1 -
stabbim,
2016-10-06, 14:36
- Feels reductive. -
Harmanimus,
2016-10-06, 16:10
- Feels reductive. -
Cody Miller,
2016-10-06, 16:18
- Feels reductive. -
Harmanimus,
2016-10-06, 16:32
- Feels reductive. -
stabbim,
2016-10-06, 17:13
- Feels reductive. - Harmanimus, 2016-10-06, 18:18
- Feels reductive. -
stabbim,
2016-10-06, 17:13
- Feels reductive. -
Harmanimus,
2016-10-06, 16:32
- I wish I could still feel joy.
- Funkmon, 2016-10-06, 16:28
- Great news then! You can get joy for the low cost of 1.99$!
- Harmanimus, 2016-10-06, 16:33
- I thought it was $200 down at the shady corner to feel Joy?
- unoudid, 2016-10-06, 16:54
- Wow, Joy is expensive. -
Claude Errera,
2016-10-06, 16:55
- "Worth" it though. It's a gift that keep on giving
- unoudid, 2016-10-06, 16:57
- "Worth" it though. It's a gift that keep on giving
- Wow, Joy is expensive. -
Claude Errera,
2016-10-06, 16:55
- Bundle deal with Pride for just a dollar more at the Kroger. - Vortech, 2016-10-06, 20:51
- I thought it was $200 down at the shady corner to feel Joy?
- Great news then! You can get joy for the low cost of 1.99$!
- About blind boxes -
unoudid,
2016-10-06, 16:52
- About blind boxes -
cheapLEY,
2016-10-06, 17:09
- About blind boxes - stabbim, 2016-10-06, 17:17
- About blind boxes -
Harmanimus,
2016-10-06, 18:22
- About blind boxes -
SonofMacPhisto,
2016-10-06, 19:21
- About blind boxes -
Ragashingo,
2016-10-06, 19:37
- About blind boxes -
SonofMacPhisto,
2016-10-07, 09:52
- ...
- Ragashingo, 2016-10-07, 10:56
- ...
- About blind boxes -
SonofMacPhisto,
2016-10-07, 09:52
- About blind boxes -
Ragashingo,
2016-10-06, 19:37
- About blind boxes -
SonofMacPhisto,
2016-10-06, 19:21
- About blind boxes -
cheapLEY,
2016-10-06, 17:09
- Feels reductive. -
Cody Miller,
2016-10-06, 16:18
- Feels reductive. -
Harmanimus,
2016-10-06, 16:10
- +1 -
stabbim,
2016-10-06, 14:36
- Your trade money for time, not RNG bypass - Earendil, 2016-10-06, 14:38
- +1 -
unoudid,
2016-10-06, 14:31
- Your trade money for time, not RNG bypass -
Earendil,
2016-10-05, 15:40
- It goes against the idea of "everybody should think like me" -
Funkmon,
2016-10-05, 20:28
- Ah, there you are -
someotherguy,
2016-10-05, 20:59
- Isn't that the pot calling the kettle black? -
Funkmon,
2016-10-05, 23:37
- The curse of thread-form forum posts, I guess -
someotherguy,
2016-10-06, 07:38
- "and Guardian, you make one hell of a wrench"
- Pyromancy, 2016-10-06, 07:54
- "and Guardian, you make one hell of a wrench"
- The curse of thread-form forum posts, I guess -
someotherguy,
2016-10-06, 07:38
- Isn't that the pot calling the kettle black? -
Funkmon,
2016-10-05, 23:37
- Ah, there you are -
someotherguy,
2016-10-05, 20:59
- What's wrong with this view... -
CruelLEGACEY,
2016-10-05, 20:33
- What's wrong with this view... -
marmot 1333,
2016-10-05, 20:52
- What's wrong with this view... -
CruelLEGACEY,
2016-10-05, 21:06
- What's wrong with this view... - marmot 1333, 2016-10-06, 16:25
- What's wrong with this view... -
someotherguy,
2016-10-05, 21:14
- What's wrong with this view... -
marmot 1333,
2016-10-06, 16:27
- I got a Legendary too - someotherguy, 2016-10-06, 17:42
- What's wrong with this view... -
marmot 1333,
2016-10-06, 16:27
- What's wrong with this view... -
CruelLEGACEY,
2016-10-05, 21:06
- +1
- someotherguy, 2016-10-05, 21:13
- What's wrong with this view... -
marmot 1333,
2016-10-05, 20:52
- What's wrong with this view... -
MacAddictXIV,
2016-10-05, 15:31
- A micro-transaction thread w/o Cody? -
Schedonnardus,
2016-10-05, 17:35
- A micro-transaction thread w/o Cody? -
Cody Miller,
2016-10-05, 18:21
- A micro-transaction thread w/o Cody? -
Korny,
2016-10-05, 18:25
- A micro-transaction thread w/o Cody? -
Cody Miller,
2016-10-05, 18:37
- A micro-transaction thread w/o Cody? -
Grizzlei,
2016-10-05, 18:42
- A micro-transaction thread w/o Cody? -
Cody Miller,
2016-10-05, 19:44
- I fail to see how this is relevant -
someotherguy,
2016-10-05, 19:51
- + 1
- Speedracer513, 2016-10-05, 20:15
- I fail to see how this is relevant -
Cody Miller,
2016-10-05, 20:55
- So there was no relevance -
someotherguy,
2016-10-05, 21:19
- So there was no relevance -
Cody Miller,
2016-10-05, 21:22
- Ahahahahahahahahahahahaha -
someotherguy,
2016-10-05, 21:37
- Yeah, I'm definitely using that now
- ZackDark, 2016-10-06, 01:13
- Yeah, I'm definitely using that now
- You know, people didn't like it much then either… - Vortech, 2016-10-06, 20:59
- Ahahahahahahahahahahahaha -
someotherguy,
2016-10-05, 21:37
- So there was no relevance -
Cody Miller,
2016-10-05, 21:22
- So there was no relevance -
someotherguy,
2016-10-05, 21:19
- + 1
- I fail to see how this is relevant -
someotherguy,
2016-10-05, 19:51
- A micro-transaction thread w/o Cody? -
Cody Miller,
2016-10-05, 19:44
- Trust me, 100% of the time... -
Speedracer513,
2016-10-05, 19:11
- haha so true! - slycrel, 2016-10-05, 19:32
- Trust me, 100% of the time... -
bluerunner,
2016-10-05, 22:19
- my normal reaction ^
- Kermit, 2016-10-06, 07:02
- my normal reaction ^
- Trust me, 100% of the time... -
cheapLEY,
2016-10-05, 23:20
- Trust me, 100% of the time... -
SonofMacPhisto,
2016-10-05, 23:54
- Trust me, 100% of the time... -
bluerunner,
2016-10-06, 00:20
- Trust me, 100% of the time... - SonofMacPhisto, 2016-10-06, 10:00
- Trust me, 100% of the time... -
bluerunner,
2016-10-06, 00:20
- He's not wrong
- someotherguy, 2016-10-06, 07:43
- +1 - stabbim, 2016-10-06, 14:28
- Trust me, 100% of the time... -
SonofMacPhisto,
2016-10-05, 23:54
- ...but why?
- Pyromancy, 2016-10-06, 01:04
- A micro-transaction thread w/o Cody? - Korny, 2016-10-05, 19:37
- A micro-transaction thread w/o Cody? -
Grizzlei,
2016-10-05, 18:42
- A micro-transaction thread w/o Cody? -
Cody Miller,
2016-10-05, 18:37
- Yeah... Something's up! I'm calling hostage rescue... :) -
Ragashingo,
2016-10-05, 18:42
- Yeah... Something's up! I'm calling hostage rescue... :) -
Schedonnardus,
2016-10-05, 19:22
- Yeah... Something's up! I'm calling hostage rescue... :) - stabbim, 2016-10-06, 14:31
- Has anyone checked the nearest tree?
- CruelLEGACEY, 2016-10-05, 20:28
- Yeah... Something's up! I'm calling hostage rescue... :) -
Schedonnardus,
2016-10-05, 19:22
- A micro-transaction thread w/o Cody? - stabbim, 2016-10-06, 14:25
- A micro-transaction thread w/o Cody? -
Korny,
2016-10-05, 18:25
- A micro-transaction thread w/o Cody? -
Cody Miller,
2016-10-05, 18:21
- Let's Talk Silver Dust -
ProbablyLast,
2016-10-05, 21:41
- Let's Talk Silver Dust - stabbim, 2016-10-06, 14:35
- Addendum -
someotherguy,
2016-10-05, 12:48