
Competitive play and Meaning (Destiny)
COD does that as well, and it's a large impediment to casual players. Getting 100 kills with no scope on a sniper, or 500 with a rifle, may be trivial to a player who plays for 2 hours a day all week, but if you can only play a few weekends a month you hardly unlock anything.
This is one reason why even though my friends all have TF2, Destiny and Overwatch, we pretty much end up playing only Overwatch together. There are no unlocks that we have to worry about, so no one feels like they have no chance because they haven't unlocked the longest range shotgun or don't have the scope and barrel for the best rifle.
Loot based shooters, even ones with defined guns like ME:A, suffer because you always have to play a certain amount to get access to most of the content. The Devs have to pad the loot lists for players who can invest 20 hours or more a week, but players who can only play a handful are always behind the curve.
Complete thread:
- Competitive play and Meaning -
Cody Miller,
2017-06-18, 15:43
- Competitive play and Meaning -
cheapLEY,
2017-06-18, 15:52
- Competitive play and Meaning -
stabbim,
2017-06-19, 00:18
- Competitive play and Meaning - cheapLEY, 2017-06-19, 00:24
- Competitive play and Meaning -
dogcow,
2017-06-19, 15:01
- Competitive play and Meaning - stabbim, 2017-06-19, 15:46
- Competitive play and Meaning - Vortech, 2017-06-27, 10:26
- Competitive play and Meaning - narcogen, 2017-06-19, 00:40
- Competitive play and Meaning -
stabbim,
2017-06-19, 00:18
- Agreed - CruelLEGACEY, 2017-06-18, 18:29
- Competitive play and Meaning -
Korny,
2017-06-18, 19:25
- Competitive play and Meaning -
cheapLEY,
2017-06-18, 19:36
- What about stuff locked behind hard mode Raids? -
DEEP_NNN,
2017-06-18, 19:58
- Hard mode should be cosmetic only, IMO -
Kahzgul,
2017-06-19, 03:39
- Hard mode should be cosmetic only, IMO - narcogen, 2017-06-19, 11:05
- Hard mode should be cosmetic only, IMO -
Cody Miller,
2017-06-19, 13:27
- One argument against this -
Claude Errera,
2017-06-19, 17:01
- One argument against this -
Cody Miller,
2017-06-19, 17:32
- One argument against this - Claude Errera, 2017-06-19, 18:07
- Excellent point -
CruelLEGACEY,
2017-06-19, 17:40
- +1 - Claude Errera, 2017-06-19, 18:08
- One argument against this -
Kahzgul,
2017-06-20, 00:24
- This all sounds rad.
- CyberKN, 2017-06-20, 00:29
- Thanks, buddy
- Kahzgul, 2017-06-21, 02:47
- Thanks, buddy
- One argument against this - stabbim, 2017-06-20, 14:56
- I love this idea -
Robot Chickens,
2017-06-20, 15:41
- I love this idea -
Cody Miller,
2017-06-20, 15:58
- I love this idea - Robot Chickens, 2017-06-20, 20:53
- I'm not so sure. -
Kermit,
2017-06-20, 17:20
- +1
- kidtsunami, 2017-06-20, 17:40
- I'm not so sure. -
MacAddictXIV,
2017-06-20, 17:51
- I'm not so sure. -
Kermit,
2017-06-20, 18:39
- I'm not so sure. -
MacAddictXIV,
2017-06-20, 18:55
- Good point!
- Kermit, 2017-06-20, 19:06
- Good point!
- I'm not so sure. -
Cody Miller,
2017-06-20, 19:00
- I'm not so sure. -
cheapLEY,
2017-06-20, 21:28
- I'm not so sure. -
Kermit,
2017-06-20, 22:40
- I'm not so sure. -
CruelLEGACEY,
2017-06-21, 01:28
- I'm not so sure. - Cody Miller, 2017-06-21, 02:01
- I'm not so sure. -
CruelLEGACEY,
2017-06-21, 01:28
- I'm not so sure. - Cody Miller, 2017-06-21, 00:49
- I'm not so sure. -
Kermit,
2017-06-20, 22:40
- I'm not so sure. -
cheapLEY,
2017-06-20, 21:28
- I'm not so sure. -
cheapLEY,
2017-06-20, 20:14
- I'm not so sure. -
Harmanimus,
2017-06-20, 22:21
- I'm not so sure. -
cheapLEY,
2017-06-20, 23:08
- I'm not so sure. -
Harmanimus,
2017-06-20, 23:47
- I'm not so sure. -
cheapLEY,
2017-06-21, 00:14
- I'm about to sound like a broken record... - CruelLEGACEY, 2017-06-21, 00:59
- I'm not so sure. -
cheapLEY,
2017-06-21, 00:14
- I'm not so sure. -
Harmanimus,
2017-06-20, 23:47
- I'm not so sure. -
cheapLEY,
2017-06-20, 23:08
- I'm not so sure. -
Harmanimus,
2017-06-20, 22:21
- I'm not so sure. -
MacAddictXIV,
2017-06-20, 18:55
- I'm not so sure. -
Kermit,
2017-06-20, 18:39
- I'm not so sure. - Robot Chickens, 2017-06-20, 20:50
- +1
- I love this idea -
Cody Miller,
2017-06-20, 15:58
- I like everything in this post.
- Claude Errera, 2017-06-20, 16:03
- :) thanks
- Kahzgul, 2017-06-21, 02:46
- :) thanks
- This all sounds rad.
- One argument against this -
Cody Miller,
2017-06-19, 17:32
- One argument against this -
Claude Errera,
2017-06-19, 17:01
- What about stuff locked behind hard mode Raids? -
CruelLEGACEY,
2017-06-19, 16:39
- agree.
- Kermit, 2017-06-19, 16:48
- What about stuff locked behind hard mode Raids? -
DEEP_NNN,
2017-06-19, 17:52
- What about stuff locked behind hard mode Raids? - CruelLEGACEY, 2017-06-19, 18:25
- What about stuff locked behind hard mode Raids? - Kermit, 2017-06-19, 18:40
- What about stuff locked behind hard mode Raids? - Cody Miller, 2017-06-19, 19:13
- agree.
- Hard mode should be cosmetic only, IMO -
Kahzgul,
2017-06-19, 03:39
- Competitive play and Meaning -
Korny,
2017-06-18, 22:41
- Competitive play and Meaning - cheapLEY, 2017-06-18, 22:50
- Competitive play and Meaning - Cody Miller, 2017-06-18, 23:51
- Competitive play and Meaning -
Kahzgul,
2017-06-19, 03:43
- Competitive play and Meaning -
Harmanimus,
2017-06-19, 15:54
- Competitive play and Meaning -
Kahzgul,
2017-06-20, 00:40
- Competitive play and Meaning - Harmanimus, 2017-06-20, 16:19
- Competitive play and Meaning -
Kahzgul,
2017-06-20, 00:40
- Competitive play and Meaning -
Harmanimus,
2017-06-19, 15:54
- +infinity - Harmanimus, 2017-06-19, 16:13
- What about stuff locked behind hard mode Raids? -
DEEP_NNN,
2017-06-18, 19:58
- Competitive play and Meaning - Cody Miller, 2017-06-18, 21:17
- Competitive play and Meaning -
Blackt1g3r,
2017-06-19, 15:48
- Competitive play and Meaning - Durandal, 2017-06-19, 16:43
- Competitive play and Meaning -
cheapLEY,
2017-06-18, 19:36
- Getting rid of visible ranks has been one of the best things - FyreWulff, 2017-06-18, 19:57
- Competitive play and Meaning - stabbim, 2017-06-19, 00:20
- I would like ranked & unranked playlists -
unoudid,
2017-06-19, 11:58
- I would like ranked & unranked playlists -
cheapLEY,
2017-06-19, 14:41
- I would like ranked & unranked playlists -
Korny,
2017-06-19, 16:16
- I would like ranked & unranked playlists - Harmanimus, 2017-06-19, 16:20
- I would like ranked & unranked playlists -
cheapLEY,
2017-06-19, 16:31
- I like JIP -
squidnh3,
2017-06-19, 17:08
- I like JIP +1 - dogcow, 2017-06-19, 17:34
- You are wrong, so your points are not valid ;)
- unoudid, 2017-06-19, 19:04
- I like JIP -
squidnh3,
2017-06-19, 17:08
- I would like ranked & unranked playlists -
Korny,
2017-06-19, 16:16
- First Effing game of the day - unoudid, 2017-06-19, 20:47
- I would like ranked & unranked playlists -
cheapLEY,
2017-06-19, 14:41
- Competitive play and Meaning - CyberKN, 2017-06-19, 15:23
- Considering streaming revenue -
kidtsunami,
2017-06-19, 16:08
- Considering streaming revenue - Durandal, 2017-06-19, 16:47
- Competitive play and Meaning -
cheapLEY,
2017-06-18, 15:52