The mechanical, hollow, and distant Hearts of Star Wars (Off-Topic)
OK. I read it last week. It's not so much that I disagree wit the main points, it's that I just am not nearly so impressed by the things that were there as he and in some cases I simply disagree VERY much about how successfully it was done (Finn's character development and Casino planet are the prime examples).
Personally, I liked Finn a lot and how they did her. She was different.
Eh?
Sorry, in my head I swap Finn and Rey sometimes for some reason. Just swap the names :D
And though I agree with you on the Casino scene, I also think people expect everything to tie into everything that is Star Wars. In my mind, that scene wasn't perfect but it was still good for what it was. It illustrated to me what some people fight for and how lopsided the galaxy is. It's not just always about the rebels and empire.
But it wasn't;t a scene. it was a sequence. Possibly the longest in the movie? I think much more than was needed to convey the idea that the poor and downtrodden dislike the wealthy who only think about them in so much as they exploit and abuse them (even despite American audiences seeming to have the opposite reaction in their own lives). Finn showed immediately in TFA that he was driven by empathy (and fear) I don't think we needed so much time for him to realize that economics can also oppress.
I hear a lot of people say that that entire sequence shouldn't have been in the movie. I disagree. I do agree with you that it could have been shorter, but it does add good substance to the entire movie as well as the universe.
More than any of it though, is I just never felt like I was really connecting to the characters very well. I know why they were doing things, mostly; and it made sense, mostly. It just felt kinda distant from me emotionally, and some of it seemed kinda unsupported by the earlier scenes (like Rose kissing Finn. I assume it was romantic, and if so, shoehorned in.). Many of these postmortems have referred to cut scenes that were informative, so I should go back and watch those on the Blu-Ray.
Personally I like the character development overall. I think they might have failed for some places, but overall good. And although people consider the original trilogy to be held as the standard, I never connected with Luke at all until maybe the end of Episode 5 and Episode 6. So I'm going to just keep going and see where the characters take us.
Agreed. Ep 4 Luke is a whiny exhaustion of a person. It works in the arc of his overall character, but it's tough to watch.
I want to say that I'm not a hardcore star wars fan. I just like the movies for what they are. And I'm always for improving things, but I'm not so zealous that I will condemn an entire move as horrible. I'm not saying you guys are, I've just heard it before.
Complete thread:
- The Beautiful, Ugly, and Possessive Hearts of Star Wars -
EffortlessFury,
2018-07-03, 19:44
- The Beautiful, Ugly, and Possessive Hearts of Star Wars -
cheapLEY,
2018-07-03, 19:49
- The Beautiful, Ugly, and Possessive Hearts of Star Wars -
Cody Miller,
2018-07-03, 20:05
- The Beautiful, Ugly, and Possessive Hearts of Star Wars - EffortlessFury, 2018-07-03, 20:28
- The Beautiful, Ugly, and Possessive Hearts of Star Wars - cheapLEY, 2018-07-03, 20:39
- The Beautiful, Ugly, and Possessive Hearts of Star Wars -
Cody Miller,
2018-07-03, 20:05
- Gaaa! We're still talking about this! Noooo!!! -
INSANEdrive,
2018-07-04, 02:01
- Two things -
ZackDark,
2018-07-04, 05:03
- Two things - INSANEdrive, 2018-07-04, 09:08
- Gaaa! We're still talking about this! Noooo!!! -
Cody Miller,
2018-07-04, 08:40
- Alright. I'll give ya that. -
INSANEdrive,
2018-07-04, 09:05
- Alright. I'll give ya that. -
cheapLEY,
2018-07-04, 09:34
- A Splinter of the Minds Eye -
INSANEdrive,
2018-07-04, 10:18
- A Splinter of the Minds Eye -
Avateur,
2018-07-04, 19:35
- A Splinter of the Minds Eye -
INSANEdrive,
2018-07-04, 19:44
- A Splinter of the Minds Eye - Cody Miller, 2018-07-04, 20:25
- A Splinter of the Minds Eye -
INSANEdrive,
2018-07-04, 19:44
- A Splinter of the Minds Eye -
Avateur,
2018-07-04, 19:35
- Alright. I'll give ya that. -
Cody Miller,
2018-07-04, 10:39
- Alright. I'll give ya that. -
cheapLEY,
2018-07-04, 10:54
- +1 - INSANEdrive, 2018-07-04, 12:20
- Alright. I'll give ya that. -
Avateur,
2018-07-04, 19:53
- Alright. I'll give ya that. -
cheapLEY,
2018-07-04, 20:21
- I actually HAVE seen it performed... - EffortlessFury, 2018-07-05, 01:24
- Alright. I'll give ya that. - Xenos, 2018-07-05, 13:48
- Alright. I'll give ya that. -
cheapLEY,
2018-07-04, 20:21
- Alright. I'll give ya that. -
cheapLEY,
2018-07-04, 10:54
- A Splinter of the Minds Eye -
INSANEdrive,
2018-07-04, 10:18
- Alright. I'll give ya that. -
cheapLEY,
2018-07-04, 09:34
- Alright. I'll give ya that. -
INSANEdrive,
2018-07-04, 09:05
- Gaaa! We're still talking about this! Noooo!!! -
Cody Miller,
2018-07-04, 10:42
- Gaaa! We're still talking about this! Noooo!!! - cheapLEY, 2018-07-04, 10:57
- Another set of Two things. (+1) -
INSANEdrive,
2018-07-04, 12:18
- Another set of Two things. (+1) - Cody Miller, 2018-07-04, 12:47
- Am I seeing things that no one else is seeing? -
EffortlessFury,
2018-07-04, 17:35
- Well said! -
cheapLEY,
2018-07-04, 17:51
- Thanks! - EffortlessFury, 2018-07-06, 00:25
- Am I seeing things that no one else is... saying? -
INSANEdrive,
2018-07-04, 19:37
- Am I seeing things that no one else is... saying? -
cheapLEY,
2018-07-04, 20:31
- Am I seeing things that no one else is... saying? -
INSANEdrive,
2018-07-05, 22:35
- Am I seeing things that no one else is... saying? -
EffortlessFury,
2018-07-06, 00:25
- Am I seeing things that no one else is... saying? -
ZackDark,
2018-07-06, 05:54
- Am I seeing things that no one else is... saying? -
EffortlessFury,
2018-07-06, 17:12
- Am I seeing things that no one else is... saying? -
Cody Miller,
2018-07-06, 18:55
- +1 -
breitzen,
2018-07-06, 19:28
- I seriously hope y'all aren't talking about ep3 right now -
ZackDark,
2018-07-06, 22:05
- "Where's Han" -> TLJ - EffortlessFury, 2018-07-07, 14:16
- I seriously hope y'all aren't talking about ep3 right now -
ZackDark,
2018-07-06, 22:05
- +1 -
breitzen,
2018-07-06, 19:28
- Am I seeing things that no one else is... saying? -
Cody Miller,
2018-07-06, 18:55
- Am I seeing things that no one else is... saying? -
EffortlessFury,
2018-07-06, 17:12
- Am I seeing things that no one else is... saying? -
ZackDark,
2018-07-06, 05:54
- Am I seeing things that no one else is... saying? -
Cody Miller,
2018-07-06, 14:17
- Am I seeing things that no one else is... saying? - cheapLEY, 2018-07-06, 16:13
- Am I seeing things that no one else is... saying? -
EffortlessFury,
2018-07-06, 00:25
- Am I seeing things that no one else is... saying? -
INSANEdrive,
2018-07-05, 22:35
- Am I seeing things that no one else is... saying? -
cheapLEY,
2018-07-04, 20:31
- good analysis -
Robot Chickens,
2018-07-05, 12:35
- Thanks! - EffortlessFury, 2018-07-06, 00:25
- Well said! -
cheapLEY,
2018-07-04, 17:51
- Two things -
ZackDark,
2018-07-04, 05:03
- The other things of Star Wars - Vortech, 2018-07-04, 15:25
- The other things of Star Wars II : Electric Boogaloo -
INSANEdrive,
2018-07-04, 16:15
- The other things of Star Wars II : Electric Boogaloo - Cody Miller, 2018-07-04, 16:58
- How did the Sith perform his magic act? -
Cody Miller,
2018-07-06, 21:27
- I hate this, thanks. - cheapLEY, 2018-07-06, 22:18
- Oh my I couldn't have agreed more strongly with an analysis - kidtsunami, 2018-07-08, 16:26
- The mechanical, hollow, and distant Hearts of Star Wars -
Vortech,
2018-07-11, 10:40
- The mechanical, hollow, and distant Hearts of Star Wars -
Cody Miller,
2018-07-11, 13:10
- The internet was a mistake. - cheapLEY, 2018-07-11, 14:04
- A+ - kidtsunami, 2018-07-11, 19:42
- The mechanical, hollow, and distant Hearts of Star Wars -
MacAddictXIV,
2018-07-12, 08:07
- The mechanical, hollow, and distant Hearts of Star Wars -
Vortech,
2018-07-12, 14:54
- The mechanical, hollow, and distant Hearts of Star Wars - MacAddictXIV, 2018-07-13, 07:58
- The mechanical, hollow, and distant Hearts of Star Wars -
Vortech,
2018-07-12, 14:54
- The mechanical, hollow, and distant Hearts of Star Wars -
Cody Miller,
2018-07-11, 13:10
- The Beautiful, Ugly, and Possessive Hearts of Star Wars -
cheapLEY,
2018-07-03, 19:49