You're right. (Destiny)
That's a pretty good point, though artificially making me let go of old weapons sounds weird. I think Bungie backed itself in this corner by implementing random rolls. If everything were curated, "sweet-talking" you into using new weapons wouldn't be a problem at all.
Yes, I'm still sore the streamers got that ball rolling. Goddamn streamers...
Uh, #cody was saying this over 6 years ago.
And the problem that random rolls solved would still be a problem, if they'd listened to you.#kermitandcodyareoftenrightbutmaybenotinthiscase
For me it's just I hated the perk-comparison mini-game because it was inordinately time-consuming (I've never held that stuff in my head very well), and I have less time than ever (that I'm willing) to play. I never realized how much I hated it until we had static roles.Fortunately, D2 seems to have a greater variety of options occupying lanes, so I've survived without needing to obsess.
I have nothing against anybody who enjoy this kind of complexity. It's not my thing. I stopped playing Division once it felt like crafting was required to keep up.
I hope you don't mind me invoking your name through them their rainbow connections Kerm. I came across your post when I was double checking for... something (I recall not what), and found it at the time apt in relation to ZackDarks post. To look forward, you have to look back. Learn from that "History" thing, if you can. It's a marker of how much time has passed and the result of the choices made. The title was just me being glib between the source and one of the "memes" of this site.
That said, your reasons stated are mostly my reasons as well.
I personally liked static rolls because, as I've espoused, it made things SUPER EASY to organize, even in this current system where, if you aren't using a 3rd party application - heavens help you. Every roll had a name. If you had a duplicate, it was easy to see IN VAULT. No app required. When you got hit with something hard, and you saw the name of the weapon on the other end of PvP, you knew exactly what hit you.
But, to swing this back around to the source of this topics turn, has "Bungie backed itself in this corner by implementing random rolls"? Plausibly. Though I think this has more to do with things like Pinnacle Weapons effects on our end, and Development stuffs on their end. The ultimate fear I gather is power creep and an unmanageable back end.
It's all a numbers game, with many moving parts. I hope they're pull'n the right threads. I don't know. As it stands, I'm just a player spit'n thoughts.
Complete thread:
- Power level limit for weapons in the future -
TheOmegaClown,
2020-02-26, 12:09
- Power level limit for weapons in the future -
squidnh3,
2020-02-26, 13:54
- Power level limit for weapons in the future - FyreWulff, 2020-02-27, 05:08
- Power level limit for weapons in the future -
Cody Miller,
2020-02-27, 07:08
- Power level limit for weapons in the future -
TheOmegaClown,
2020-02-27, 10:34
- Power level limit for weapons in the future -
Cody Miller,
2020-02-27, 12:29
- Power level limit for weapons in the future -
TheOmegaClown,
2020-02-27, 15:08
- Power level limit for weapons in the future -
Cody Miller,
2020-02-29, 22:48
- Power level limit for weapons in the future -
Vortech,
2020-03-06, 11:40
- Power level limit for weapons in the future -
Cody Miller,
2020-03-09, 09:59
- Power level limit for weapons in the future - cheapLEY, 2020-03-09, 10:08
- Power level limit for weapons in the future -
Cody Miller,
2020-03-09, 09:59
- Power level limit for weapons in the future -
Vortech,
2020-03-06, 11:40
- Power level limit for weapons in the future -
Cody Miller,
2020-02-29, 22:48
- Power level limit for weapons in the future -
TheOmegaClown,
2020-02-27, 15:08
- Power level limit for weapons in the future -
Cody Miller,
2020-02-27, 12:29
- Power level limit for weapons in the future -
TheOmegaClown,
2020-02-27, 10:34
- Power level limit for weapons in the future - stabbim, 2020-02-26, 14:40
- [The Problem of] Weapons Forever: The Problem -
INSANEdrive,
2020-02-27, 14:55
- [The Problem of] Weapons Forever: The Problem -
EffortlessFury,
2020-02-27, 15:37
- [The Problem of] Weapons Forever: The Problem -
INSANEdrive,
2020-02-27, 16:31
- All fair points. - EffortlessFury, 2020-02-27, 17:57
- [The Problem of] Weapons Forever: The Problem -
INSANEdrive,
2020-02-27, 16:31
- [The Problem of] Weapons Forever: The Problem -
cheapLEY,
2020-02-27, 19:11
- Or...like me...you never end up playing Raids/etc. at all... -
EffortlessFury,
2020-02-27, 19:25
- that feel when this game still hates its solo playerbase - Spec ops Grunt, 2020-03-02, 09:45
- [The Problem of] Weapons Forever: The Problem -
INSANEdrive,
2020-03-01, 13:30
- Just to point out... -
Claude Errera,
2020-03-01, 17:16
- Look at this guy. Being all reasonable and such. Disgusting. - INSANEdrive, 2020-03-01, 17:56
- Just to point out... - Cody Miller, 2020-03-01, 18:55
- Just to point out... -
ZackDark,
2020-03-01, 19:53
- #KermitWasRight -
INSANEdrive,
2020-03-01, 21:35
- Static Rolls were such a good step -
someotherguy,
2020-03-02, 00:56
- Static Rolls were such a good step -
Claude Errera,
2020-03-02, 06:51
- Doesn't seem like a problem to me -
someotherguy,
2020-03-02, 09:54
- Doesn't seem like a problem to me -
Claude Errera,
2020-03-02, 10:22
- Doesn't seem like a problem to me -
TheOmegaClown,
2020-03-03, 05:49
- Doesn't seem like a problem to me -
ZackDark,
2020-03-04, 07:02
- Doesn't seem like a problem to me -
someotherguy,
2020-03-04, 09:12
- That's the main issue for me -
kidtsunami,
2020-03-04, 09:54
- That's the main issue for me -
cheapLEY,
2020-03-04, 10:44
- Viable was a poor word choice -
kidtsunami,
2020-03-04, 12:02
- Viable was a poor word choice - cheapLEY, 2020-03-04, 13:49
- Viable was a poor word choice -
TheOmegaClown,
2020-03-07, 06:39
- Viable was a poor word choice -
cheapLEY,
2020-03-07, 07:11
- Viable was a poor word choice - CruelLEGACEY, 2020-03-07, 10:31
- Viable was a poor word choice -
TheOmegaClown,
2020-03-08, 17:59
- This was also me. It's soooooo good. :) - INSANEdrive, 2020-03-08, 18:04
- Viable was a poor word choice -
cheapLEY,
2020-03-07, 07:11
- Viable was a poor word choice -
kidtsunami,
2020-03-04, 12:02
- Steelfeather Repeater. More so with SotWorthy AR Buffs. -
Harmanimus,
2020-03-04, 16:16
- That stability though :( -
someotherguy,
2020-03-05, 01:21
- That stability though :( -
Harmanimus,
2020-03-05, 12:36
- That stability though :( - someotherguy, 2020-03-05, 13:08
- That stability though :( -
Harmanimus,
2020-03-05, 12:36
- That stability though :( -
someotherguy,
2020-03-05, 01:21
- That's the main issue for me -
CruelLEGACEY,
2020-03-05, 17:44
- Cool, thanks for the examples! - kidtsunami, 2020-03-06, 13:12
- That's the main issue for me -
cheapLEY,
2020-03-04, 10:44
- That's the main issue for me -
kidtsunami,
2020-03-04, 09:54
- Doesn't seem like a problem to me -
someotherguy,
2020-03-04, 09:12
- Doesn't seem like a problem to me -
ZackDark,
2020-03-04, 07:02
- Doesn't seem like a problem to me -
TheOmegaClown,
2020-03-03, 05:49
- Doesn't seem like a problem to me -
Claude Errera,
2020-03-02, 10:22
- Static Roll caveat re: Y1 - Harmanimus, 2020-03-03, 01:47
- Doesn't seem like a problem to me -
someotherguy,
2020-03-02, 09:54
- Static Rolls were such a good step -
Claude Errera,
2020-03-02, 06:51
- #KermitWasRight -
Cody Miller,
2020-03-02, 07:23
- #KermitWasRight -
Claude Errera,
2020-03-02, 07:44
- #KermitWasRight -
Kermit,
2020-03-02, 12:17
- You're right. -
INSANEdrive,
2020-03-02, 15:12
- You're right. -
Kermit,
2020-03-02, 15:21
- Cool. - INSANEdrive, 2020-03-02, 16:22
- You're right. -
Cody Miller,
2020-03-02, 16:25
- You're right. - Kermit, 2020-03-04, 05:23
- You're right. -
cheapLEY,
2020-03-02, 15:35
- You're right. - Kermit, 2020-03-02, 16:00
- You're right. -
Kermit,
2020-03-02, 15:21
- You're right. -
INSANEdrive,
2020-03-02, 15:12
- #KermitWasRight -
Cody Miller,
2020-03-02, 16:20
- Dues Ex: Vanquish is You - Strange Edition - INSANEdrive, 2020-03-02, 16:25
- #KermitWasRight -
Kermit,
2020-03-02, 12:17
- #KermitWasRight -
Claude Errera,
2020-03-02, 07:44
- Static Rolls were such a good step -
someotherguy,
2020-03-02, 00:56
- #KermitWasRight -
INSANEdrive,
2020-03-01, 21:35
- Just to point out... -
CruelLEGACEY,
2020-03-05, 17:21
- Just to point out... - cheapLEY, 2020-03-05, 17:59
- Can I get an AMEN! - INSANEdrive, 2020-03-05, 18:27
- [The Problem of] Weapons Forever: The Problem - cheapLEY, 2020-03-01, 19:20
- Just to point out... -
Claude Errera,
2020-03-01, 17:16
- Your last paragraph is the core problem of this game series - Spec ops Grunt, 2020-03-01, 14:41
- Or...like me...you never end up playing Raids/etc. at all... -
EffortlessFury,
2020-02-27, 19:25
- [The Problem of] Weapons Forever: The Problem -
EffortlessFury,
2020-02-27, 15:37
- Power level limit for weapons in the future -
squidnh3,
2020-02-26, 13:54