Viable was a poor word choice (Destiny)
Yeah, 99% of weapons now are insta-shard. Random rolls woth clear Best-in-Slot perks just seems like Static Rolls with extra steps.
I'd like some examples of weapons where there are multiple viable rolls.
Literally any weapon in the game with any roll.
Competitive, but I take it you'll have the same response
Mostly, yeah. I think there are obvious good rolls and bad rolls, but I don’t even the best roll on any given weapon is going to compensate for a skill deficit.
I doubt that someone with the perfect Bygones is going to perform better than me with my crappy roll Bygones in Crucible if we’re of equal skill. They might get an extra kill here or there, and I don’t want to undersell their benefit of that. Maybe I’m totally wrong on that, it’s not like I’ve conducted a study. My general experience is that it doesn’t matter much beyond preference.
Explosive Payload might be one exception that. I can definitely tell when I’m getting hit by something with Explosive Payload, and I know it’s lost me firefights (and won me just as many after I got my Trust with it). Even that is situational, though, and most perks are even more so.
Like I said, maybe I’m way off base here. I don’t spend a whole lot of toke analyzing rolls. I know there perks I like, but I don’t have the desire to really dig into all the barrel and sight modifiers and how they affect every weapon. Do I want Range or Stability? I mostly can’t talk the difference.
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- Power level limit for weapons in the future -
TheOmegaClown,
2020-02-26, 12:09
- Power level limit for weapons in the future -
squidnh3,
2020-02-26, 13:54
- Power level limit for weapons in the future - FyreWulff, 2020-02-27, 05:08
- Power level limit for weapons in the future -
Cody Miller,
2020-02-27, 07:08
- Power level limit for weapons in the future -
TheOmegaClown,
2020-02-27, 10:34
- Power level limit for weapons in the future -
Cody Miller,
2020-02-27, 12:29
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TheOmegaClown,
2020-02-27, 15:08
- Power level limit for weapons in the future -
Cody Miller,
2020-02-29, 22:48
- Power level limit for weapons in the future -
Vortech,
2020-03-06, 11:40
- Power level limit for weapons in the future -
Cody Miller,
2020-03-09, 09:59
- Power level limit for weapons in the future - cheapLEY, 2020-03-09, 10:08
- Power level limit for weapons in the future -
Cody Miller,
2020-03-09, 09:59
- Power level limit for weapons in the future -
Vortech,
2020-03-06, 11:40
- Power level limit for weapons in the future -
Cody Miller,
2020-02-29, 22:48
- Power level limit for weapons in the future -
TheOmegaClown,
2020-02-27, 15:08
- Power level limit for weapons in the future -
Cody Miller,
2020-02-27, 12:29
- Power level limit for weapons in the future -
TheOmegaClown,
2020-02-27, 10:34
- Power level limit for weapons in the future - stabbim, 2020-02-26, 14:40
- [The Problem of] Weapons Forever: The Problem -
INSANEdrive,
2020-02-27, 14:55
- [The Problem of] Weapons Forever: The Problem -
EffortlessFury,
2020-02-27, 15:37
- [The Problem of] Weapons Forever: The Problem -
INSANEdrive,
2020-02-27, 16:31
- All fair points. - EffortlessFury, 2020-02-27, 17:57
- [The Problem of] Weapons Forever: The Problem -
INSANEdrive,
2020-02-27, 16:31
- [The Problem of] Weapons Forever: The Problem -
cheapLEY,
2020-02-27, 19:11
- Or...like me...you never end up playing Raids/etc. at all... -
EffortlessFury,
2020-02-27, 19:25
- that feel when this game still hates its solo playerbase - Spec ops Grunt, 2020-03-02, 09:45
- [The Problem of] Weapons Forever: The Problem -
INSANEdrive,
2020-03-01, 13:30
- Just to point out... -
Claude Errera,
2020-03-01, 17:16
- Look at this guy. Being all reasonable and such. Disgusting. - INSANEdrive, 2020-03-01, 17:56
- Just to point out... - Cody Miller, 2020-03-01, 18:55
- Just to point out... -
ZackDark,
2020-03-01, 19:53
- #KermitWasRight -
INSANEdrive,
2020-03-01, 21:35
- Static Rolls were such a good step -
someotherguy,
2020-03-02, 00:56
- Static Rolls were such a good step -
Claude Errera,
2020-03-02, 06:51
- Doesn't seem like a problem to me -
someotherguy,
2020-03-02, 09:54
- Doesn't seem like a problem to me -
Claude Errera,
2020-03-02, 10:22
- Doesn't seem like a problem to me -
TheOmegaClown,
2020-03-03, 05:49
- Doesn't seem like a problem to me -
ZackDark,
2020-03-04, 07:02
- Doesn't seem like a problem to me -
someotherguy,
2020-03-04, 09:12
- That's the main issue for me -
kidtsunami,
2020-03-04, 09:54
- That's the main issue for me -
cheapLEY,
2020-03-04, 10:44
- Viable was a poor word choice -
kidtsunami,
2020-03-04, 12:02
- Viable was a poor word choice - cheapLEY, 2020-03-04, 13:49
- Viable was a poor word choice -
TheOmegaClown,
2020-03-07, 06:39
- Viable was a poor word choice -
cheapLEY,
2020-03-07, 07:11
- Viable was a poor word choice - CruelLEGACEY, 2020-03-07, 10:31
- Viable was a poor word choice -
TheOmegaClown,
2020-03-08, 17:59
- This was also me. It's soooooo good. :) - INSANEdrive, 2020-03-08, 18:04
- Viable was a poor word choice -
cheapLEY,
2020-03-07, 07:11
- Viable was a poor word choice -
kidtsunami,
2020-03-04, 12:02
- Steelfeather Repeater. More so with SotWorthy AR Buffs. -
Harmanimus,
2020-03-04, 16:16
- That stability though :( -
someotherguy,
2020-03-05, 01:21
- That stability though :( -
Harmanimus,
2020-03-05, 12:36
- That stability though :( - someotherguy, 2020-03-05, 13:08
- That stability though :( -
Harmanimus,
2020-03-05, 12:36
- That stability though :( -
someotherguy,
2020-03-05, 01:21
- That's the main issue for me -
CruelLEGACEY,
2020-03-05, 17:44
- Cool, thanks for the examples! - kidtsunami, 2020-03-06, 13:12
- That's the main issue for me -
cheapLEY,
2020-03-04, 10:44
- That's the main issue for me -
kidtsunami,
2020-03-04, 09:54
- Doesn't seem like a problem to me -
someotherguy,
2020-03-04, 09:12
- Doesn't seem like a problem to me -
ZackDark,
2020-03-04, 07:02
- Doesn't seem like a problem to me -
TheOmegaClown,
2020-03-03, 05:49
- Doesn't seem like a problem to me -
Claude Errera,
2020-03-02, 10:22
- Static Roll caveat re: Y1 - Harmanimus, 2020-03-03, 01:47
- Doesn't seem like a problem to me -
someotherguy,
2020-03-02, 09:54
- Static Rolls were such a good step -
Claude Errera,
2020-03-02, 06:51
- #KermitWasRight -
Cody Miller,
2020-03-02, 07:23
- #KermitWasRight -
Claude Errera,
2020-03-02, 07:44
- #KermitWasRight -
Kermit,
2020-03-02, 12:17
- You're right. -
INSANEdrive,
2020-03-02, 15:12
- You're right. -
Kermit,
2020-03-02, 15:21
- Cool. - INSANEdrive, 2020-03-02, 16:22
- You're right. -
Cody Miller,
2020-03-02, 16:25
- You're right. - Kermit, 2020-03-04, 05:23
- You're right. -
cheapLEY,
2020-03-02, 15:35
- You're right. - Kermit, 2020-03-02, 16:00
- You're right. -
Kermit,
2020-03-02, 15:21
- You're right. -
INSANEdrive,
2020-03-02, 15:12
- #KermitWasRight -
Cody Miller,
2020-03-02, 16:20
- Dues Ex: Vanquish is You - Strange Edition - INSANEdrive, 2020-03-02, 16:25
- #KermitWasRight -
Kermit,
2020-03-02, 12:17
- #KermitWasRight -
Claude Errera,
2020-03-02, 07:44
- Static Rolls were such a good step -
someotherguy,
2020-03-02, 00:56
- #KermitWasRight -
INSANEdrive,
2020-03-01, 21:35
- Just to point out... -
CruelLEGACEY,
2020-03-05, 17:21
- Just to point out... - cheapLEY, 2020-03-05, 17:59
- Can I get an AMEN! - INSANEdrive, 2020-03-05, 18:27
- [The Problem of] Weapons Forever: The Problem - cheapLEY, 2020-03-01, 19:20
- Just to point out... -
Claude Errera,
2020-03-01, 17:16
- Your last paragraph is the core problem of this game series - Spec ops Grunt, 2020-03-01, 14:41
- Or...like me...you never end up playing Raids/etc. at all... -
EffortlessFury,
2020-02-27, 19:25
- [The Problem of] Weapons Forever: The Problem -
EffortlessFury,
2020-02-27, 15:37
- Power level limit for weapons in the future -
squidnh3,
2020-02-26, 13:54