I would have loved more mass effect in my destiny (Destiny)

by Jabberwok, Friday, September 26, 2014, 10:55 (3507 days ago) @ scarab

I have played, for example, Two Betrayals maybe hundreds of times more than any mission in Destiny. But I have never been bored doing it. I always knew the stakes and new the stakes mattered. I've never said to myself, "but I've saved the galaxy before".

Totally agree. I still have no idea what I accomplished in The Black Garden, or even at any point before that. Apparently, my wandering, rugged individualist Hunter just does whatever Peter Dinklage says, without question.

I remember Joe saying that he sat down and tried to write a real world explanation of why we could see fallen " souls" leave their bodies when shot. Maybe he wasn't comfortable with the genre.

So I think part of the problem is that they were trying to marry fantasy with science fiction. A lot of their early concept art is fantasy, then it gradually gets more futuristic. It's an interesting idea, but the execution is lackluster, IMO, because talking about swords, wizards, and darkness with no explanations has made the story airy and insubstantial. It needs to be grounded. Actual fantasy has the advantage of being easy to relate to real world things, because it's all low tech. Destiny is going to need much, much stronger character interaction if it wants to be relatable, and they also need to go a little more in-depth into the tech and their explanations (instead of just saying that the Hive are "waiting for their gods to return"). Star Wars drew heavily on fantasy tropes, but the technology also felt very earthy and mechanical, which helped ground it, and even The Force was well-explained. By contrast, Destiny contains a lot of talk about 'wielding the Traveler's light', but no one even asks what that means, much less attempts to explain it.

I wonder if Bungie actually wanted to make a fantasy game, but realized they would never be able to sell it to Activision if there was no shooting, and if it wasn't similar to Halo. The Sword of Crota could almost be an homage to the game that couldn't be.

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What actually happened to Destiny's development? - Riceamike, 2014-09-26, 00:00
- great question - Oholiab, 2014-09-26, 00:24
  - great question - Cody Miller, 2014-09-26, 10:03
    - great question - Jabberwok, 2014-09-26, 11:00
- What actually happened to Destiny's development? - Ragashingo, 2014-09-26, 00:32
  - What actually happened to Destiny's development? - Korny, 2014-09-26, 01:14
    - What actually happened to Destiny's development? - car15, 2014-09-26, 01:20
- What actually happened to Destiny's development? - car15, 2014-09-26, 00:38
- What actually happened to Destiny's development? - HavokBlue, 2014-09-26, 02:16
  - What actually happened to Destiny's development? - Korny, 2014-09-26, 02:39
    - it would be fairly easy to have the cards in game - scarab, 2014-09-26, 03:10
      - it would be fairly easy to have the cards in game - Korny, 2014-09-26, 03:14
        
        it would be fairly easy to have the cards in game - car15, 2014-09-26, 03:21
        
        it would be fairly easy to have the cards in game - Korny, 2014-09-26, 03:29
        
        it would be fairly easy to have the cards in game - car15, 2014-09-26, 03:38
        
        it would be fairly easy to have the cards in game - Korny, 2014-09-26, 03:46
        
        it would be fairly easy to have the cards in game - car15, 2014-09-26, 03:50
        
        it would be fairly easy to have the cards in game - Korny, 2014-09-26, 03:58
        
        it would be fairly easy to have the cards in game - car15, 2014-09-26, 04:09
        
        it would be fairly easy to have the cards in game - Korny, 2014-09-26, 04:15
        
        it would be fairly easy to have the cards in game - car15, 2014-09-26, 04:18
        
        you are currently spiralling out of control - kidtsunami, 2014-09-26, 04:20
        
        they both are - Decom, 2014-09-26, 14:49
        
        On the topic of 'Tiny' Joe Staten - Riceamike, 2014-09-26, 04:53
        
        On the topic of 'Tiny' Joe Staten - Quirel, 2014-09-26, 10:02
        
        On the topic of 'Tiny' Joe Staten - rliebherr, 2014-09-26, 11:27
        
        On the topic of 'Tiny' Joe Staten - RaichuKFM, 2014-09-26, 23:32
        
        here's some constructive feedback - kidtsunami, 2014-09-26, 04:29
        
        I ain't even mad. - car15, 2014-09-26, 04:37
        
        Please stop - Schedonnardus, 2014-09-26, 06:47
        
        Do we have a banhammer? - Mr Daax, 2014-09-26, 06:53
        
        That's not really appropriate for you to ask. - Revenant1988, 2014-09-26, 07:03
        
        What's It Take To Swing a Hammer Around Here? - rliebherr, 2014-09-26, 07:27
        
        What's It Take To Swing a Hammer Around Here? - Revenant1988, 2014-09-26, 07:51
        
        What's It Take To Swing a Hammer Around Here? - Korny, 2014-09-26, 08:06
        
        +1 - rliebherr, 2014-09-26, 08:08
        
        What's It Take To Swing a Hammer Around Here? - Revenant1988, 2014-09-26, 08:14
        
        What's It Take To Swing a Hammer Around Here? - Korny, 2014-09-26, 08:18
        
        [cleaning coffee off my screen] - Kermit, 2014-09-26, 08:21
        
        What's It Take To Swing a Hammer Around Here? - Revenant1988, 2014-09-26, 08:21
        
        You're not his real dad... - Korny, 2014-09-26, 07:59
        
        You're not his real dad... - Revenant1988, 2014-09-26, 08:04
        
        You're not his real dad... - Kermit, 2014-09-26, 08:11
        
        That's enough for now. - Xenos, 2014-09-26, 08:25
        
        I would have loved more mass effect in my destiny - scarab, 2014-09-26, 04:43
        
        I would have loved more mass effect in my destiny - Korny, 2014-09-26, 05:13
        
        I would have loved more mass effect in my destiny - Cody Miller, 2014-09-26, 08:09
        
        I would have loved more mass effect in my destiny - Monochron, 2014-09-26, 08:17
        
        I would have loved more mass effect in my destiny - Korny, 2014-09-26, 08:20
        
        I would have loved more mass effect in my destiny - Monochron, 2014-09-26, 08:27
        
        I would have loved more mass effect in my destiny - Kermit, 2014-09-26, 08:28
        
        I would have loved more mass effect in my destiny - Korny, 2014-09-26, 08:35
        
        I would have loved more mass effect in my destiny - Kermit, 2014-09-26, 08:45
        
        I would have loved more mass effect in my destiny - Korny, 2014-09-26, 09:27
        
        I would have loved more mass effect in my destiny - Cody Miller, 2014-09-26, 08:36
        
        I would have loved more mass effect in my destiny - bluerunner, 2014-09-26, 08:42
        
        I would have loved more mass effect in my destiny - SonofMacPhisto, 2014-09-26, 09:14
        
        I would have loved more mass effect in my destiny - bluerunner, 2014-09-26, 09:18
        
        I would have loved more mass effect in my destiny - SonofMacPhisto, 2014-09-26, 09:28
        
        I would have loved more mass effect in my destiny - Cody Miller, 2014-09-26, 09:46
        
        Class, race and sex? - ZackDark, 2014-09-26, 09:49
        
        Class, race and sex? - Cody Miller, 2014-09-26, 09:50
        
        Class, race and sex? - SonofMacPhisto, 2014-09-26, 11:15
        
        Class, race and sex? - Cody Miller, 2014-09-26, 11:18
        
        Class, race and sex? - SonofMacPhisto, 2014-09-26, 11:24
        
        Class, race and sex? - Xenos, 2014-09-26, 11:22
        
        my word that's pretty - SonofMacPhisto, 2014-09-26, 11:25
        
        O.O - ZackDark, 2014-09-26, 11:34
        
        I would have loved more mass effect in my destiny - bluerunner, 2014-09-26, 09:49
        
        I think what you're trying to say is... - JDQuackers, 2014-09-26, 09:47
        
        I don't have time for your disingenuous assertions! - Jillybean, 2014-09-26, 05:56
        
        Nice. :) - Ragashingo, 2014-09-26, 07:09
        
        I would have loved more mass effect in my destiny - Quirel, 2014-09-26, 09:30
        
        I would have loved more mass effect in my destiny - Jabberwok, 2014-09-26, 10:55
  - to elaborate... - HavokBlue, 2014-09-26, 03:36
  - What actually happened to Destiny's development? - Cody Miller, 2014-09-26, 09:57
- Game stories are weird - Cody Miller, 2014-09-26, 07:56
  - Game stories are weird - bluerunner, 2014-09-26, 08:11
    - Game stories are weird - Jillybean, 2014-09-26, 08:29
- What always happens to grandiose projects - Earendil, 2014-09-26, 09:26
  - What always happens to grandiose projects - SonofMacPhisto, 2014-09-26, 09:30
    - Which is not to say it's a good excuse - Earendil, 2014-09-26, 09:48
      - Which is not to say it's a good excuse - SonofMacPhisto, 2014-09-26, 11:11
  - What always happens to grandiose projects - Schedonnardus, 2014-09-26, 09:33
    - That's a really good point. - rliebherr, 2014-09-26, 09:37
      - That's a really good point. - Kermit, 2014-09-26, 09:52
        
        That's a really good point. - Phoenix_9286, 2014-09-26, 10:04
  - What always happens to grandiose projects - uberfoop, 2014-09-26, 10:06
    - What always happens to grandiose projects - Kermit, 2014-09-26, 10:13
    - What always happens to grandiose projects - Quirel, 2014-09-26, 10:19

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