Pretty much what we all suspected (Destiny)

by Kahzgul, Tuesday, October 20, 2015, 14:33 (3418 days ago) @ dogcow

I'm pleased (gratified might be a better word, none of this news actually makes me happy) to see my supposition that the dev tools sucking is why the vanilla missions are all so homogenous and didn't have variable encounters or spawns in the vanilla release. It explains a lot, and is pretty much a best-case scenario for what went wrong, technically, with the game. Hopefully Bungie has hired some serious tools programmers to reboot the whole dev-side workflow and get more powerful (and faster) tools in the hands of the other devs.

Hearing about the state of the tools was news to me. I suspect that's destination for the job posting of "PC Game Developer." Someone(s) to cleanup & improve the tools, not someone(s) to port Destiny to the PC.

And yes, the rest of the story was pretty much "known". It makes me wonder if Destiny would have been better off with a more linear story as what we got was some crazy and confusing patchwork of encounters with a loose story hung on it. The strength of the Destiny story to me is the background, the grimoire. I personally would like the presentation of the story to be a linear thing, and then afterwards have an open world with quests, bounties, strikes, and raids to complete.

I agree completely. They'd have been much better served having a linear story that takes you to all of the worlds, and then open it up with all of the side missions etc. afterwards. The current questification helps a LOT because it keeps track of which storyline you're following at any given time (totally unclear to me in the initial launch), but it's still not as good imo as what you're suggesting.

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Kotaku, The Messy, True Story Behind The Making Of Destiny - dogcow, 2015-10-20, 13:38
- Pretty much what we all suspected - Kahzgul, 2015-10-20, 13:59
  - Pretty much what we all suspected - dogcow, 2015-10-20, 14:16
    - Pretty much what we all suspected - Kahzgul, 2015-10-20, 14:33
- Turns out that even Bungie agreed with me... - Korny, 2015-10-20, 14:16
  - Turns out that even Bungie agreed with me... - dogcow, 2015-10-20, 14:27
    - +1 - slycrel, 2015-10-20, 14:56
      - +1 - Kahzgul, 2015-10-20, 15:11
    - My criticism of Bungie leadership & hindsight. - dogcow, 2015-10-21, 13:19
      - Size - Blackt1g3r, 2015-10-21, 13:37
  - So the solution was no story at all? - Avateur, 2015-10-21, 01:24
- Kotaku, The Messy, True Story Behind The Making Of Destiny - Fuertisimo, 2015-10-20, 14:17
  - Kotaku, The Messy, True Story Behind The Making Of Destiny - dogcow, 2015-10-20, 14:24
    - Kotaku, The Messy, True Story Behind The Making Of Destiny - Fuertisimo, 2015-10-20, 14:26
      - Kotaku, The Messy, True Story Behind The Making Of Destiny - dogcow, 2015-10-20, 14:27
        
        Kotaku, The Messy, True Story Behind The Making Of Destiny - Fuertisimo, 2015-10-20, 14:30
- Kotaku, The Messy, True Story Behind The Making Of Destiny - Cody Miller, 2015-10-20, 14:21
  - Kotaku, The Messy, True Story Behind The Making Of Destiny - MacAddictXIV, 2015-10-20, 14:24
    - Kotaku, The Messy, True Story Behind The Making Of Destiny - Cody Miller, 2015-10-20, 14:53
  - Kotaku, The Messy, True Story Behind The Making Of Destiny - Fuertisimo, 2015-10-20, 14:27
    - Kotaku, The Messy, True Story Behind The Making Of Destiny - Kahzgul, 2015-10-20, 14:35
      - Kotaku, The Messy, True Story Behind The Making Of Destiny - Fuertisimo, 2015-10-20, 14:42
  - Kotaku, The Messy, True Story Behind The Making Of Destiny - CruelLEGACEY, 2015-10-20, 14:42
    - Kotaku, The Messy, True Story Behind The Making Of Destiny - Fuertisimo, 2015-10-20, 14:46
      - I know the effects were. - INSANEdrive, 2015-10-20, 23:14
    - Kotaku, The Messy, True Story Behind The Making Of Destiny - Cody Miller, 2015-10-20, 14:55
      - Kotaku, The Messy, True Story Behind The Making Of Destiny - Schedonnardus, 2015-10-20, 15:16
      - Kotaku, The Messy, True Story Behind The Making Of Destiny - CruelLEGACEY, 2015-10-20, 17:16
        
        Kotaku, The Messy, True Story Behind The Making Of Destiny - dogcow, 2015-10-20, 17:32
        
        Kotaku, The Messy, True Story Behind The Making Of Destiny - Cody Miller, 2015-10-20, 21:28
        
        Kotaku, The Messy, True Story Behind The Making Of Destiny - Ragashingo, 2015-10-20, 21:46
        
        Kotaku, The Messy, True Story Behind The Making Of Destiny - Cody Miller, 2015-10-20, 21:51
        
        Kotaku, The Messy, True Story Behind The Making Of Destiny - Ragashingo, 2015-10-20, 22:45
        
        Kotaku, The Messy, True Story Behind The Making Of Destiny - Cody Miller, 2015-10-21, 21:46
        
        Kotaku, The Messy, True Story Behind The Making Of Destiny - Ragashingo, 2015-10-21, 22:15
        
        Kotaku, The Messy, True Story Behind The Making Of Destiny - Quirel, 2015-10-22, 00:06
        
        Kotaku, The Messy, True Story Behind The Making Of Destiny - Cody Miller, 2015-10-22, 19:00
        
        Kotaku, The Messy, True Story Behind The Making Of Destiny - CruelLEGACEY, 2015-10-20, 22:52
- Heh. :) - Leviathan, 2015-10-20, 14:46
  - Heh. :) - Fuertisimo, 2015-10-20, 14:49
    - Heh. :) - Leviathan, 2015-10-20, 14:53
      - Remember when reporters had integrity and you trusted them? - Kahzgul, 2015-10-20, 15:03
        
        Remember when reporters had integrity and you trusted them? - Funkmon, 2015-10-20, 19:00
        
        Remember when reporters had integrity and you trusted them? - Quirel, 2015-10-21, 03:04
        
        Remember when reporters had integrity and you trusted them? - narcogen, 2015-10-22, 09:25
        
        Remember when reporters had integrity and you trusted them? - Funkmon, 2015-10-22, 10:13
        
        Remember when reporters had integrity and you trusted them? - Cody Miller, 2015-10-22, 18:57
      - Heh. :) - Fuertisimo, 2015-10-20, 15:31
        
        Heh. :) - Leviathan, 2015-10-20, 16:25
        
        Heh. :) - Fuertisimo, 2015-10-20, 16:31
        
        Heh. :) - Leviathan, 2015-10-20, 16:39
        
        Heh. :) - Claude Errera, 2015-10-21, 15:28
        
        Heh. :) - CruelLEGACEY, 2015-10-21, 15:41
        
        Heh. :) - Claude Errera, 2015-10-21, 16:14
        
        Heh. :) - CruelLEGACEY, 2015-10-21, 16:52
        
        Heh. :) - Claude Errera, 2015-10-21, 17:13
        
        Heh. :) - Robot Chickens, 2015-10-21, 17:24
        
        Thanks for the feedback :) - CruelLEGACEY, 2015-10-21, 19:02
        
        Heh. :) - Cody Miller, 2015-10-22, 18:52
    - Have you ever read Kotaku? - cheapLEY, 2015-10-20, 17:32
      - Kotaku is the National Enquirer of games news. - Funkmon, 2015-10-20, 18:55
      - Have you ever read Kotaku? - Fuertisimo, 2015-10-20, 20:44
      - I dunno about that - HavokBlue, 2015-10-21, 00:52
        
        I dunno about that - Ragashingo, 2015-10-21, 01:06
        
        I dunno about that - cheapLEY, 2015-10-21, 02:06
        
        I dunno about that - Schedonnardus, 2015-10-21, 11:51
        
        I remember deciding they were **** in 2009. - Funkmon, 2015-10-21, 02:10
        
        I remember deciding they were **** in 2009. - Kermit, 2015-10-21, 13:27
        
        ^^^ This ^^^ - CruelLEGACEY, 2015-10-21, 13:35
  - Heh. :) - Cody Miller, 2015-10-20, 14:59
    - Heh. :) - Leviathan, 2015-10-20, 15:01
  - Heh. :) - Ragashingo, 2015-10-20, 20:19
  - Well said. - INSANEdrive, 2015-10-20, 23:23
- Quote & Reply- Dump. - INSANEdrive, 2015-10-20, 23:09

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