Heh. :) (Destiny)

by CruelLEGACEY , Toronto, Wednesday, October 21, 2015, 16:52 (3417 days ago) @ Claude Errera

Without getting into the specific discussion between Fuertisimo and Levi, I do believe articles like this are important to some of us. Forget the fact that its about Destiny, I get excited any time I see an gaming-related article that comes close to actual journalism. For years, gaming magazines and websites have done little more than re-distribute press releases, with little or no original content of value. Like any other industry, there are interesting stories surrounding videogame development. Some gamers don't care, and I totally get it. I find behind-the-scenes stories fascinating, but the secretive nature of game development means we rarely if ever get an honest look at how games are made.

This article in particular suffers due to lack of clear and identifiable sourcing, as Levi pointed out. It makes it tough to keep track of "who supposedly said what", or how much is being mashed together by the author, etc. But Schreier does have a great track record, so I'm hesitant to write it off as clickbait BS the way I might if a similar article was written by some other members of the gaming press. If nothing else, I see it as an attempt to do more than parrot PR announcements, so I think it is significant in that regard.

I'm not exactly sure why you might think that someone saying "I'm going to take this article with a grain of salt" means they don't care about the subject material.

I didn't actually say that, nor did I mean to imply it :) I was saying that some people aren't interested in reading about what goes on behind the scenes, and I understand why. That's all.

I care about the subject material a great deal - more, probably, than the majority of people reading this thread. But I'm not going to take it as truth as it stands.

The story he puts out jibes with the story I've gotten, over the years, from various sources, in a lot of ways. It also CONFLICTS in several (important) ways. (I'm not going into detail; the pieces I've gotten were explicitly off the record.) I'm not saying that makes the Kotaku article wrong, and my sources right - I'm saying that often, there are multiple interpretations of a single event, and that one particular narrative might not do the situation full justice.

I read this with the same interest as others here; I don't have Levi's aversion to gossip. (Heh - that makes it sound like I'm a gossip hound. I'm not, but when something is written about a subject that's near to my heart, I'll read it and THEN toss out the parts I think are crap, rather than saying "I don't need this in my head".) And I think it's an interesting piece, and it sheds light (possibly accurate light) on a number of hard-to-understand decisions. But I don't believe it's 100% accurate, and I don't believe that anyone who suggests they're withholding judgement should be chastised for doing so.

The fact that Schreier is respected by a number of people here is good - but it doesn't change the fact that some of what he wrote is at odds with stuff I'm pretty sure is true.

::shrug::

Everyone needs to make their own decision about how accurate this is - or even whether they want to bother reading it. And it's definitely an interesting conversation topic - as evidenced by the two large threads on this forum alone. But folks who express skepticism should be allowed that opinion. That's really all I was trying to say.

I completely agree with all of this.

Basically, my post was triggered by a single line in your response to Fuertisimo where you said "you seem deeply invested in this". I was merely riffing off of that. With DBO being a Bungie fan site, any story about the making of Destiny is likely to drum up interest. I was just trying to bring up the fact that for me personally, I think articles like this are important for the games media. I wasn't arguing with anything anyone had said earlier in the thread. Seems my post came across that way to you, and I'm not sure why :-/