Are Destiny's "lows" what make it so great? (Destiny)
Then it hit me. The difference is Chaos and Cody. We experienced a moment of defeat together. We've spent months playing this game with each other, so when we go into Trials as a team we carry all of that weight with us. Of course, you can play Halo 5 with friends, too. You can play multiplayer with the same people for months at a time, experiencing exciting victories and painful defeat. But in a way, a game like Halo will always be static. Each match takes place in its own little bubble, with little affect on the one before or the one after. This is where Destiny's loot, or more specifically Destiny's persistent world, does matter. We each have a personal history within the world of Destiny. Different things we have worked towards over time, different goals we have succeeded or failed to achieve. Last night was not the first time we have failed to get to the Lighthouse together, but it was not the same as our other defeats. Because in many ways, Destiny is not the same game for me this week as it was last week or last month or last year. So a moment of heartbreak in Destiny becomes yet another part of my history with the game, while a similar situation in Halo 5 makes me think "this isn't really fun I think I'll stop playing".
Does this make any sense? What do you all think about this?
In Halo, we didn't need to grind SWAT games over and over to RNG for the Legendary Battle Rifle, and then play modes Bungie wanted us to so we could finish bounties to unlock the three shot burst perk on it. We play SWAT because we're on Team HBO and it's Team HBO vs The World.
Destiny giving us "goals" is plain and simple Destiny withholding content from us to stretch out how long it takes for us to exhaust what content it has. Bungie has said this outright. And that's okay, I think we all know that.
Halo has traditionally given us access to it's entire sandbox, and the rest of the time is spent enjoying it for what it is. I think Halo is a much more honest experience. Custom games and Forge make sense for Halo, but seem at odds with how Destiny is designed.
Obviously Halo 5 has this REQ system garbage, but it isn't the foundation for the game and has limited penetration.
Complete thread:
- Are Destiny's "lows" what make it so great? -
CruelLEGACEY,
2015-11-07, 19:59
- Are Destiny's "lows" what make it so great? -
Cody Miller,
2015-11-07, 20:19
- Are Destiny's "lows" what make it so great? -
cheapLEY,
2015-11-07, 20:49
- Are Destiny's "lows" what make it so great? -
stabbim,
2015-11-07, 22:52
- Are Destiny's "lows" what make it so great? -
Cody Miller,
2015-11-08, 00:12
- My understanding is that it's fundamentally unchanged. -
slycrel,
2015-11-08, 01:07
- My understanding is that it's fundamentally unchanged. - stabbim, 2015-11-08, 20:50
- My understanding is that it's fundamentally unchanged. -
slycrel,
2015-11-08, 01:07
- Are Destiny's "lows" what make it so great? -
Cody Miller,
2015-11-08, 00:12
- Are Destiny's "lows" what make it so great? -
stabbim,
2015-11-07, 22:52
- Are Destiny's "lows" what make it so great? -
cheapLEY,
2015-11-07, 20:49
- Are Destiny's "lows" what make it so great? - EffortlessFury, 2015-11-07, 21:10
- Are Destiny's "lows" what make it so great? - TheeChaos, 2015-11-07, 21:15
- Are Destiny's "lows" what make it so great? -
petetheduck,
2015-11-07, 21:55
- Having now spent some time with Halo and BOIII -
Durandal,
2015-11-07, 23:36
- Having now spent some time with Halo and BOIII -
cheapLEY,
2015-11-08, 00:10
- This - ZackDark, 2015-11-08, 14:22
- Having now spent some time with Halo and BOLL
- Pyromancy, 2015-11-08, 06:18
- That's where my mind went, too.
- Kermit, 2015-11-09, 18:35
- That's where my mind went, too.
- Having now spent some time with Halo and BOIII -
cheapLEY,
2015-11-08, 00:10
- Having now spent some time with Halo and BOIII -
Durandal,
2015-11-07, 23:36
- No. - Funkmon, 2015-11-08, 00:24
- Good MMOs do this. -
slycrel,
2015-11-08, 01:13
- Good MMOs do this. -
Cody Miller,
2015-11-08, 02:07
- Good MMOs do this. -
slycrel,
2015-11-08, 03:22
- The importance of failure and blame. *vid* -
Korny,
2015-11-08, 17:59
- The importance of failure and blame. *vid* - slycrel, 2015-11-08, 19:59
- The importance of failure and blame. *vid* -
Korny,
2015-11-08, 17:59
- Illusion of failure -
narcogen,
2015-11-08, 12:41
- ^^^ This is a solid analysis of game design - Kahzgul, 2015-11-08, 14:43
- Agreed. Mostly. - someotherguy, 2015-11-08, 16:01
- Also the new music sucks -
someotherguy,
2015-11-08, 15:49
- Also the new music sucks -
Cody Miller,
2015-11-08, 16:33
- Also the new music sucks -
someotherguy,
2015-11-09, 14:02
- Also the new music sucks - Cody Miller, 2015-11-09, 23:39
- Also the new music sucks -
someotherguy,
2015-11-09, 14:02
- Also the new music sucks -
Cody Miller,
2015-11-08, 16:33
- Good MMOs do this. -
slycrel,
2015-11-08, 03:22
- Good MMOs do this. -
Cody Miller,
2015-11-08, 02:07
- It's the social interaction, not the game -
Kahzgul,
2015-11-08, 14:41
- It's the social interaction, not the game -
Funkmon,
2015-11-09, 13:59
- It's the social interaction, not the game - ProbablyLast, 2015-11-09, 16:15
- It's the social interaction, not the game -
Cody Miller,
2015-11-09, 18:20
- How do I unsubscribe?
- cheapLEY, 2015-11-09, 18:40
- It won't help... -
CruelLEGACEY,
2015-11-09, 19:34
- I wrote this scene for a movie once -
Kahzgul,
2015-11-09, 22:12
- A++++ Would Watch!
- cheapLEY, 2015-11-09, 22:20
- So vivid in my mind. It has to be a thing now. Make it so.
- ZackDark, 2015-11-09, 23:56
- A++++ Would Watch!
- I wrote this scene for a movie once -
Kahzgul,
2015-11-09, 22:12
- It won't help... -
CruelLEGACEY,
2015-11-09, 19:34
- How do I unsubscribe?
- It's the social interaction, not the game -
Cody Miller,
2015-11-09, 22:46
- It's the social interaction, not the game - Harmanimus, 2015-11-10, 18:13
- Portal 2 - Schedonnardus, 2015-11-10, 19:49
- It's the social interaction, not the game -
Funkmon,
2015-11-09, 13:59
- Are Destiny's "lows" what make it so great? -
Kermit,
2015-11-09, 18:33
- Wait, they can be stunned? - ZackDark, 2015-11-09, 19:23
- Are Destiny's "lows" what make it so great? -
Cody Miller,
2015-11-07, 20:19