Destiny MLG? I don't think it can happen (Destiny)
I'll be excited when Bungie drops the treadmill act and gives us custom games and Grognok. In the mean time, I guess I'll suffer through this future expansion, because everyone knows I'll be playing it and will probably enjoy it despite Bungie's best efforts.
I just had a horrible thought concerning custom games & forge. Perhaps Bungie hasn't/won't allow them because doing so would interfere with their ability to give us the carrot of timed / bungie customized PvP events. Perhaps it's not a technical reason, perhaps it's all about player investment, and that sucks.
I think the best reason Bungie could give for not providing custom games at the moment is that as soon as they do, people will organize tournaments. If Destiny isn't ready for competitive play, due to issues like weapon balance, then those tournaments will eventually fail.. and when those balance problems are eventually fixed, it will be hard to regain the momentum and excitement to get Destiny on the competitive scene again.If I wanted Destiny to succeed as a competitive game that features tournaments and the like, I would hold back custom games until I was confident it was ready. Bungie really still doesn't know what it is doing with Destiny.
I disagree that this would be the reason there are no custom games.
I've posted about it before, but basically I can't see Destiny having competitive play like that because they would have to strip SO MUCH out of armor and weapons and classes to make it viable.
There are so many variables.
For it to work in my mind, you'd have to have something like this:
- Introduce a set of armor with -zero- perks or the exact same perks regardless of class.
- Or let people wear whatever armor they want but strip the perks and normalize the stats across the board.
- Introduce a set of weapons with -zero- perks that are the same, and all players start with them (A BR is a BR for example. Your shotgun can't be different than mine, it must behave EXACTLY the same)
- Or maybe offer choice (one standard HC, SR, PR AR or SG, SR, FR) to choose from, but one model each.
- Disable all class abilities and perks. No hunters get 3 jumps, no titans shoulder charge etc unless you're somehow forcing people to only play against the class they are
- Better remove grenades or somehow make those the same with some 4th type only for this playlist
- Need more symmetrical arena maps. A few asymmetrical maps are ok (think lockout) but need to be balanced by....... idk
At that point Destiny isn't really Destiny anymore.
Theoretically, you could possibly make these "MLG" weapons and armor stats separate and unaffected by changes to the general sandbox when they nerf shotguns for the 999th time, but would this be a playlist that comes around every so often, or is it there all the time?
To be competitive, Destiny would need to be SuperSmashBros-Final Destination map-Fox only.
Which is boring. But then again, Smash does have custom games soooooooo...
......
Fuck.
But yes, like you said, Bungie isn't telling us that Destiny should be played because it is fun. They are telling us to play it for loot and progression. And custom games and Forge are at odds with Destiny's design.
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2016-02-11, 22:45
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2016-02-11, 20:32
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2016-02-11, 21:21
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2016-02-11, 21:43
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2016-02-11, 21:59
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petetheduck,
2016-02-11, 22:46
- Destiny MLG? I don't think it can happen -
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2016-02-12, 00:04
- Destiny MLG? I don't think it can happen - General Vagueness, 2016-02-12, 17:23
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2016-02-12, 17:46
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2016-02-13, 17:08
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Kahzgul,
2016-02-15, 15:26
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2016-02-15, 19:18
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2016-02-15, 20:20
- Destiny MLG? I don't think it can happen - General Vagueness, 2016-02-16, 22:20
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unoudid,
2016-02-15, 20:20
- Destiny MLG? I don't think it can happen -
General Vagueness,
2016-02-15, 19:18
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Kahzgul,
2016-02-15, 15:26
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General Vagueness,
2016-02-13, 17:08
- Destiny MLG? I don't think it can happen -
Revenant1988,
2016-02-12, 00:04
- I just had a horrible thought. -
Cody Miller,
2016-02-11, 23:04
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2016-02-11, 23:06
- 5+ years later, Reach still stands as an unmatchable bar? -
CruelLEGACEY,
2016-02-11, 23:19
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2016-02-11, 23:26
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2016-02-11, 23:39
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2016-02-11, 23:44
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Kermit,
2016-02-11, 23:46
- 5+ years later, Reach still stands as an unmatchable bar? - CruelLEGACEY, 2016-02-11, 23:57
- 5+ years later, Reach still stands as an unmatchable bar? -
Cody Miller,
2016-02-12, 17:18
- 5+ years later, Reach still stands as an unmatchable bar? -
CruelLEGACEY,
2016-02-12, 17:28
- 5+ years later, Reach still stands as an unmatchable bar? - Schedonnardus, 2016-02-12, 17:45
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2016-02-12, 18:34
- 5+ years later, Reach still stands as an unmatchable bar? -
CruelLEGACEY,
2016-02-12, 22:27
- 5+ years later, Reach still stands as an unmatchable bar? -
cheapLEY,
2016-02-12, 22:51
- 5+ years later, Reach still stands as an unmatchable bar? - Cody Miller, 2016-02-12, 23:02
- 5+ years later, Reach still stands as an unmatchable bar? -
cheapLEY,
2016-02-12, 22:51
- 5+ years later, Reach still stands as an unmatchable bar? -
CruelLEGACEY,
2016-02-12, 22:27
- 5+ years later, Reach still stands as an unmatchable bar? -
CruelLEGACEY,
2016-02-12, 17:28
- 5+ years later, Reach still stands as an unmatchable bar? -
Kermit,
2016-02-11, 23:46
- 5+ years later, Reach still stands as an unmatchable bar? -
CruelLEGACEY,
2016-02-11, 23:44
- Reach is the culmination of the Halo series -
Durandal,
2016-02-11, 23:26
- 5+ years later, Reach still stands as an unmatchable bar? -
CruelLEGACEY,
2016-02-11, 23:19
- I just had a horrible thought. -
petetheduck,
2016-02-11, 23:06
- I just had a horrible thought. -
CruelLEGACEY,
2016-02-11, 21:59
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dogcow,
2016-02-11, 21:43
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2016-02-11, 21:36
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2016-02-11, 23:08
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