Agreed about Valve...

by General Vagueness , The Vault of Sass, Sunday, March 10, 2013, 22:06 (4064 days ago) @ bryan newman

I have to credit Bungie for getting me into gaming in the first place. Vulgar as it sounds, where most of the Internet seems to have a raging hard-on for Valve, I have one for Bungie. They have never let me down, they're an amazing group of people, and I find the way they share that with the world to be second to none.

Everybody is all over Valve, their last several games weren't even made by them. Portal, LFD etc. all external companies. Valve has mastered the art of making money off of other people's work. Not that I am trashing steam, but it seams to me that game development is no longer their top priority.

I don't know about Left 4 Dead, but Portal was absolutely made by them. What you might be thinking of is that they got the idea from a student project and then hired the students that worked on it to make Portal (and they were hired to positions at Valve and worked with people there). Portal 2 was similar, a lot of the same people that made the first one worked on the second one, and the gel mechanic was inspired by another student project, and again those students were hired.

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