Speaking of a Wolf Pack dropping in. (Destiny)

by CruelLEGACEY , Toronto, Monday, August 17, 2015, 13:55 (3484 days ago) @ Miguel Chavez

Are video games supposed to be places where nothing bad ever happens, or where every aspect of the world is under the complete control of the player, even when there's more than one player?

I wouldn't say complete control. There'd be no challenge then. But I think the ability of the player to overcome the challenges should rest solely in their control.

Gotta disagree. The player is not God. Most challenges? Sure. Possibly even the vast majority. But all? No. Sometimes you just have to run away, and sometimes there's no getting out alive.

That probably does explain the whining about the endings of Mass Effect 3 and Fallout 3, among other things.

I feel better about game universes where the player isn't the biggest or only thing there is.

You've just triggered a connection in my head. I realize now how being an arcade junkie in the 70's/80's made me the kind of gamer I am today.

Asteroids and Defender imbued very key concepts firmly into my medulla.

Thanks Narc.

That's interesting. I started playing arcade games in the mid 80s... Asteroids and Defender were certainly still popular, but something about those games always rubbed me the wrong way. I think that when compared to other games I was playing at the same time, those classics felt like they were just designed to screw me. They were still fun, because they were exciting and had some great mechanics. But given the choice, I would rarely spend my quarters on them because I knew it might only take 30 seconds before something out of my control ended the game for me. The first arcade games I was really drawn to were fighting games; I loved the fact that I could watch someone play, learn how they fought, then throw down a quarter and see if I could counter them. Those games still devoured my quarters, but every time I lost I felt like it was because I had done something wrong, not because the fates had conspired against me :)