They've said that? (Destiny)

by slycrel , Thursday, October 15, 2015, 16:36 (3423 days ago) @ someotherguy

network manipulation is the only known reason of cracking down on "cheating" that I'm aware of. (Also here)

Even AFKers weren't labeled as cheaters, just bad citizens who got warnings.

Pushing atheon off a ledge was an exploit/cheese.
Shooting the nexus mind via glitching through the wall for nightfalls was an exploit/cheese.
Hiding under the platform for winter's run was an exploit/cheese.
Sword jumping across the chasm in crota was an exploit/cheese, as was making everything despawn then completing it. Among other things.

What about final round snipers in trials? Sucks, yes, bad sportsmanship, yes, but is it cheating?

All of these things were corrected by bungie and not labelled as cheating. I think there are a few things in PvP like this as well, but I'm not as avid of a PvPer, so I'd have a harder time to compile a list. Besides, I'm out of time. =)

Cheating != bad sportsmanship. Cheating != exploits. Cheating is breaking the rules. This is working around them. It's still a dick move, and I don't do it nor would I condone it.

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Unlimited Shadow Shot Glitch - unoudid, 2015-10-14, 17:11
- Woah - ZackDark, 2015-10-14, 17:32
- Ridiculous - BeardFade, 2015-10-14, 17:55
- So... where is our Unlimited Stormtrance Glitch? - INSANEdrive, 2015-10-14, 18:18
  - So... where is our Unlimited Stormtrance Glitch? - Morpheus, 2015-10-15, 15:29
    - So... where is our Unlimited Stormtrance Glitch? - Monochron, 2015-10-16, 11:34
- Unlimited Shadow Shot Glitch - Claude Errera, 2015-10-14, 19:00
  - Can confirm that it does... - Korny, 2015-10-14, 23:04
    - It's pretty horrific. And just in time for Trials - someotherguy, 2015-10-14, 23:09
      - The game done broke - Kermit, 2015-10-14, 23:23
        
        Glad I'm out this week getting dat baby... - breitzen, 2015-10-14, 23:53
        
        Glad I'm out this week getting dat baby... - Kermit, 2015-10-15, 00:07
        
        True that! It's quite an amazing experience :) - breitzen, 2015-10-15, 00:27
- Saw two people doing this in IB last night - Durandal, 2015-10-15, 09:14
  - Always amazes me how many people - someotherguy, 2015-10-15, 09:57
    - Always amazes me how many people - MacAddictXIV, 2015-10-15, 11:00
      - It's psychology - Durandal, 2015-10-15, 12:25
    - Always amazes me how many people - Cody Miller, 2015-10-15, 13:18
      - But everyone knows it isn't intended behavior - ZackDark, 2015-10-15, 13:34
        
        But everyone knows it isn't intended behavior - cheapLEY, 2015-10-15, 13:36
        
        But everyone knows it isn't intended behavior - Cody Miller, 2015-10-15, 19:41
        
        But everyone knows it isn't intended behavior - cheapLEY, 2015-10-15, 19:47
        
        But everyone knows it isn't intended behavior - Ragashingo, 2015-10-15, 19:48
        
        But everyone knows it isn't intended behavior - Cody Miller, 2015-10-15, 19:50
        
        But everyone knows it isn't intended behavior - Ragashingo, 2015-10-15, 19:56
        
        But everyone knows it isn't intended behavior - Cody Miller, 2015-10-15, 21:07
        
        But everyone knows it isn't intended behavior - Ragashingo, 2015-10-15, 21:09
        
        But everyone knows it isn't intended behavior - Kahzgul, 2015-10-15, 20:18
      - Always amazes me how many people - cheapLEY, 2015-10-15, 13:34
        
        Always amazes me how many people - MacAddictXIV, 2015-10-15, 13:51
        
        Always amazes me how many people - cheapLEY, 2015-10-15, 14:22
        
        Always amazes me how many people - Cody Miller, 2015-10-15, 19:43
        
        Always amazes me how many people - Ragashingo, 2015-10-15, 19:52
        
        I can definitely blame them - someotherguy, 2015-10-16, 00:02
        
        I can definitely blame them - MacAddictXIV, 2015-10-16, 12:09
      - It is *absolutely* cheating. - Beorn, 2015-10-15, 14:32
        
        +1 - MacAddictXIV, 2015-10-15, 14:37
        
        Yup - Anton P. Nym (aka Steve), 2015-10-15, 14:39
        
        This. - Ragashingo, 2015-10-15, 14:43
        
        I agree that it's lame. However... - slycrel, 2015-10-15, 14:43
        
        I agree. However... - Ragashingo, 2015-10-15, 14:47
        
        + 1 - CruelLEGACEY, 2015-10-15, 15:18
        
        I disagree :-) - MacAddictXIV, 2015-10-15, 15:34
        
        I disagree :-) - CruelLEGACEY, 2015-10-15, 15:37
        
        I disagree :-) - MacAddictXIV, 2015-10-15, 15:40
        
        Bingo. - Ragashingo, 2015-10-15, 15:47
        
        Bingo. - Kahzgul, 2015-10-15, 17:09
        
        I disagree :-) - Cody Miller, 2015-10-15, 19:45
        
        I disagree :-) - Kahzgul, 2015-10-15, 20:21
        
        I disagree :-) - Cody Miller, 2015-10-15, 21:09
        
        I disagree :-) - Kahzgul, 2015-10-15, 21:32
        
        Being intentionally unfair is cheating - ZackDark, 2015-10-15, 22:28
        
        Being intentionally unfair is cheating - Cody Miller, 2015-10-15, 23:07
        
        If that's all you were saying, you weren't being very clear - ZackDark, 2015-10-16, 00:14
        
        + 1 - Ragashingo, 2015-10-15, 15:42
        
        + 1 - CruelLEGACEY, 2015-10-15, 15:50
        
        + 1 - Kahzgul, 2015-10-15, 17:06
        
        I agree it's not a bannable offense - ZackDark, 2015-10-15, 17:19
        
        You're wrong - Kahzgul, 2015-10-15, 16:55
        
        +1 - cheapLEY, 2015-10-15, 16:57
        
        no, I'm pretty sure you're wrong ;) - CruelLEGACEY, 2015-10-15, 17:38
        
        Oh, who cares? - Funkmon, 2015-10-15, 17:47
        
        I care if players are getting banned unfairly... - CruelLEGACEY, 2015-10-15, 17:49
        
        I care if players are getting banned unfairly... - Ragashingo, 2015-10-15, 17:54
        
        Exactly! - Kahzgul, 2015-10-15, 18:20
        
        Exactly! - CruelLEGACEY, 2015-10-15, 18:36
        
        Exactly! - Kahzgul, 2015-10-15, 18:43
        
        Exactly! - Ragashingo, 2015-10-15, 19:32
        
        Exactly! - Claude Errera, 2015-10-15, 19:39
        
        I agree there should be an official warning first :) - Ragashingo, 2015-10-15, 19:42
        
        Giving a warning first makes sense, of course - however... - Kahzgul, 2015-10-15, 20:24
        
        "unfairly" - someotherguy, 2015-10-16, 11:38
        
        no, I'm pretty sure you're wrong ;) - Ragashingo, 2015-10-15, 17:52
        
        no, I'm pretty sure you're wrong ;) - MacAddictXIV, 2015-10-15, 18:13
        
        no, I'm pretty sure you're wrong ;) - Kahzgul, 2015-10-15, 18:19
        
        no, I'm pretty sure you're wrong ;) - MacAddictXIV, 2015-10-15, 18:22
        
        no, I'm pretty sure you're wrong ;) - Kahzgul, 2015-10-15, 18:39
        
        no, I'm pretty sure you're wrong ;) - MacAddictXIV, 2015-10-15, 19:04
        
        no, I'm pretty sure you're wrong ;) - Kahzgul, 2015-10-15, 19:37
        
        no, I'm pretty sure you're wrong ;) - Claude Errera, 2015-10-15, 19:44
        
        no, I'm pretty sure you're wrong ;) - cheapLEY, 2015-10-15, 19:55
        
        no, I'm pretty sure you're wrong ;) - Claude Errera, 2015-10-15, 20:13
        
        A warning is totally fair - Kahzgul, 2015-10-15, 20:27
        
        A warning is totally fair - Ragashingo, 2015-10-15, 20:29
        
        lol. I had to re-read it to see that. :) - Kahzgul, 2015-10-15, 20:36
        
        I don't consider a warning in a BWUpdate fair - ZackDark, 2015-10-15, 20:42
        
        I'm pretty sure it's you. - Kahzgul, 2015-10-15, 18:17
        
        But every player can run as a nightstalker if they want to - CruelLEGACEY, 2015-10-15, 18:40
        
        But every player can run as a nightstalker if they want to - Kahzgul, 2015-10-15, 18:44
        
        But every player can run as a nightstalker if they want to - Claude Errera, 2015-10-15, 19:12
        
        But every player can run as a nightstalker if they want to - cheapLEY, 2015-10-15, 19:19
        
        But every player can run as a nightstalker if they want to - Claude Errera, 2015-10-15, 19:23
        
        But every player can run as a nightstalker if they want to - cheapLEY, 2015-10-15, 19:36
        
        But every player can run as a nightstalker if they want to - Ragashingo, 2015-10-15, 19:37
        
        I see what You are saying - TheeChaos, 2015-10-15, 18:23
        
        I'd be frustrated at Bungie for not fixing it not the player - CruelLEGACEY, 2015-10-15, 18:39
        
        I'd be frustrated at Bungie for not fixing it not the player - someotherguy, 2015-10-16, 15:57
        
        you must have appreciated people getting out of the map... - kidtsunami, 2015-10-15, 19:14
        
        Nope - Anton P. Nym (aka Steve), 2015-10-15, 15:39
        
        They've said that? - someotherguy, 2015-10-15, 16:01
        
        They've said that? - slycrel, 2015-10-15, 16:36
        
        They've said that? - someotherguy, 2015-10-15, 16:52
        
        They've said that? - Ragashingo, 2015-10-15, 17:20
        
        Temporary bans are acceptable for obvious exploits, IMO - ZackDark, 2015-10-15, 17:48
        
        I agree. I vote to lock cheaters out of next IB and Trials. - Kahzgul, 2015-10-15, 18:45
        
        Didn't say no consequence, but they don't call it cheating - slycrel, 2015-10-15, 18:22
        
        They've said that? - Kahzgul, 2015-10-15, 18:36
        
        It is *absolutely* cheating. - dogcow, 2015-10-15, 14:47
        
        It is *absolutely* cheating. - MacAddictXIV, 2015-10-15, 14:54
      - If this isn't cheating then what is? - Ragashingo, 2015-10-15, 15:01
        
        Lag switchers - MacAddictXIV, 2015-10-15, 15:08
      - Exploiting a bug is cheating. - Kahzgul, 2015-10-15, 16:49
- Please report them all - Kahzgul, 2015-10-15, 13:43
- My fear - TheeChaos, 2015-10-15, 14:53
  - Kill feed confirmations - Durandal, 2015-10-15, 15:55
    - Kill feed confirmations - Xenos, 2015-10-15, 15:57
      - Kill feed confirmations - Kahzgul, 2015-10-15, 16:48
- Unlimited Shadow Shot Glitch & Trials of Osiris - dogcow, 2015-10-15, 18:27
  - Hopefully they'll be able to fix it in time :) - CruelLEGACEY, 2015-10-15, 18:37
    - If not they should just rename it "trials of mayhem". lol. - dogcow, 2015-10-15, 20:23
      - I would easily sign up for Mayhem Trials - ZackDark, 2015-10-15, 20:35
- I hope they ban everyone, even though they won't. - ProbablyLast, 2015-10-15, 23:05
  - Nothing would make me happier than this. - Funkmon, 2015-10-15, 23:27
    - I've noticed that - Ragashingo, 2015-10-15, 23:44
      - True happiness. - Funkmon, 2015-10-15, 23:56
        
        Schadenfunkmon - Kermit, 2015-10-16, 10:00

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