no, I'm pretty sure you're wrong ;) (Destiny)

by Claude Errera , Thursday, October 15, 2015, 19:44 (3422 days ago) @ Kahzgul

I just want to go on record as saying that it's still cheating regardless of whether or not everyone is doing it. Two wrongs and all that. You're exploiting a bug in the code to cause the game to behave in a way other than was intended and reaping a benefit by doing so. That's cheating.

I would say if you aren't reaping a benefit you aren't cheating, you are just making the game less than what it was intended.

So if everyone in baseball uses steroids, which are explicitly illegal in the bylaws of baseball, none of them are cheating according to you?

Okay, I guess I didn't explicitly state that it would have to be within the rules and regulations of the sport. But ultimately no. A game to me is a contest between two entities where the interface they use to compete is equally weighted. Rules are made to make sure that interface is equal.

But in this case the interface clearly states that the quiver perk gives you a total of 3 shadow shots (the rules), and then players have found a bug to exploit which gives them more than that (the cheat). Both players having access to the means of cheating doesn't make it less of a cheat.

This is unreaonable. Lots of things don't act as the flavor text suggests they should. This is not the player's fault, nor should it be the player's responsibility to try and figure out what's intended, and what isn't.

Lots of guns have hidden perks. They're not listed anywhere - your argument above would suggest that using them is cheating, since the flavor text doesn't tell you about them. That's OBVIOUSLY not what Bungie intended, is it? (My Gjallarhorn, rest its soul, would proximity-detonate, even though NOTHING about the gun written by Bungie mentions this. Once I figured it out, though, you bet your sweet patootie I used it. Not cheating - not specified - okay.)

Yes, I can tell the difference between fair and unfair 'perks', and I can tell that this is a glitch, not a hidden perk. BUT YOU CANNOT BAN PEOPLE WHO CANNOT TELL THAT DIFFERENCE, WITHOUT INFORMING THEM YOU'RE GOING TO DO IT IF THEY DON'T STOP.