Exactly! (Destiny)

by Claude Errera , Thursday, October 15, 2015, 19:39 (3422 days ago) @ Ragashingo

Don't want to be banned? Don't cheat. It's really easy to figure out.

But my whole point is that not playing as intended =/= cheating, necessarily. We're just going in circles at this point, I just feel very strongly that the focus here should be on Bungie fixing their mistake ASAP, not on punishing players for using abilities that the game allows in order to win.

The big mistake you are making is equating something being possible with it being allowed. I can join a strike and go idle. It's possible. But not allowed. I'll also be banned for it. I can inspect the enemy's gear at the start of a Trials match then back out if they seem too well equipped. It's possible, but likewise is not allowed. This glitch is possible (only because the game is broken!) but it should not be allowed.

To give players a pass on something simply because it is possible is a terrible way to approach this. Sportsmanship, honesty, balance, and fairness need to be taken into account too. Now, maybe it's not worth the time to track and ban them, but in a thoughtful discussion we should always make the distinction between what's possible for a player to do and the things that shouldn't (and should!) be allowed.

The mistake YOU'RE making is that you're putting all exploits in the same pool. The ones you mentioned that folks are getting banned for? Bungie SAID they would ban if people kept doing them. Then they banned.

This is definitely an exploit. It'll definitely get fixed, and it's possible that they'll tell us that BEFORE it gets fixed, if you keep using it, you'll be banned - but until they do, it's not really reasonable (or, in fact, with any precedent, as far as Bungie is concerned) to simply ban players for doing it.

Yes, it's an obvious exploit. Yes, I consider it cheating (in PvP). Yes, I think there should be consequences - but there should be a warning first. And we haven't had one.