no, I'm pretty sure you're wrong ;) (Destiny)

by MacAddictXIV , Seattle WA, Thursday, October 15, 2015, 18:13 (3422 days ago) @ CruelLEGACEY

It is actually exactly like doing anything that causes the game to behave in a way other than intended in order to give you an advantage. That's called cheating. It doesn't matter if the game is a buggy mess, if you exploit that bug, that's cheating. Getting outside the map to snipe people through walls where they can't see you? Cheating. Untethering your damage dealing avatar from your damage receiving avatar? Cheating. Infinite Hammers? Cheating. Infinite Shadow Shots? Cheating. Lag-switching? Cheating. It's all cheating.

You appear to be drawing a distinction from a guy who actually got a piece of hardware installed in order to cheat vs. a guy who is able to cheat without needing hardware. That's a false distinction. The lag switch is a hardware device which takes advantage of a lapse in code fidelity by allowing you to disable upstream packets while still registering kills and receiving downstream packets. A truly robust PvP code that wasn't exploitable would prevent this behavior. But because it's not prevented in Destiny, it's technically a bug that's being exploited, just like the refilling of the super bar for Quiver Shadow Shot by going to the inventory menu - that, too, is a bug that's being exploited.

Using exploits of any kind for personal gain is... wait for it... cheating.

If I'm a baseball player, and I notice the outfield wall has a whole in it, am I cheating if I manage to hit a ball straight through the hole for an automatic ground-rule double? No. I'm exploiting a flaw, but that is not actually the same as cheating. Modifying my bat with illegal materials? THAT is cheating.

Unless it was in the rules, I would call it cheating yeah. Why? Because baseball stadiums are built a certain way to play baseball in a fair way for both teams. Now, both teams use the field and thus have the same chance to "exploit" the weakness in the baseball stadium, which would be fine until it was fixed. And you might say the same thing could be true of Destiny, however exploiting the weakness in Destiny isn't based on Skill, it's based on whether you have a Hunter with shadow shot. Again, I bring up my point, cheating in my mind is exploiting the game to the disadvantage of those you play against. If everyone had Hunters and were using this, I wouldn't call it cheating, because everyone would be on the same playing field. Which would just be Mayhem with hunters.

If I'm a basketball player and I notice the rim of the net is slanted to one side, making it easier to dunk from the left, am I "cheating" for dunking from the left? No.

Like I brought up above. It's cheating if only one of the rims is slanted, thus making it easier to dunk. If both rims, and thus both team's rims were bent, it wouldn't be cheating.