
no, I'm pretty sure you're wrong ;) (Destiny)
I just want to go on record as saying that it's still cheating regardless of whether or not everyone is doing it. Two wrongs and all that. You're exploiting a bug in the code to cause the game to behave in a way other than was intended and reaping a benefit by doing so. That's cheating.
I would say if you aren't reaping a benefit you aren't cheating, you are just making the game less than what it was intended.
So if everyone in baseball uses steroids, which are explicitly illegal in the bylaws of baseball, none of them are cheating according to you?
Okay, I guess I didn't explicitly state that it would have to be within the rules and regulations of the sport. But ultimately no. A game to me is a contest between two entities where the interface they use to compete is equally weighted. Rules are made to make sure that interface is equal.
Complete thread:
- Unlimited Shadow Shot Glitch -
unoudid,
2015-10-14, 17:11
- Woah - ZackDark, 2015-10-14, 17:32
- Ridiculous
- BeardFade, 2015-10-14, 17:55
- So... where is our Unlimited Stormtrance Glitch? -
INSANEdrive,
2015-10-14, 18:18
- So... where is our Unlimited Stormtrance Glitch? -
Morpheus,
2015-10-15, 15:29
- So... where is our Unlimited Stormtrance Glitch? - Monochron, 2015-10-16, 11:34
- So... where is our Unlimited Stormtrance Glitch? -
Morpheus,
2015-10-15, 15:29
- Unlimited Shadow Shot Glitch -
Claude Errera,
2015-10-14, 19:00
- Can confirm that it does... -
Korny,
2015-10-14, 23:04
- It's pretty horrific. And just in time for Trials -
someotherguy,
2015-10-14, 23:09
- The game done broke -
Kermit,
2015-10-14, 23:23
- Glad I'm out this week getting dat baby...
- breitzen, 2015-10-14, 23:53
- Glad I'm out this week getting dat baby... -
Kermit,
2015-10-15, 00:07
- True that! It's quite an amazing experience :)
- breitzen, 2015-10-15, 00:27
- True that! It's quite an amazing experience :)
- Glad I'm out this week getting dat baby... -
Kermit,
2015-10-15, 00:07
- Glad I'm out this week getting dat baby...
- The game done broke -
Kermit,
2015-10-14, 23:23
- It's pretty horrific. And just in time for Trials -
someotherguy,
2015-10-14, 23:09
- Can confirm that it does... -
Korny,
2015-10-14, 23:04
- Saw two people doing this in IB last night -
Durandal,
2015-10-15, 09:14
- Always amazes me how many people -
someotherguy,
2015-10-15, 09:57
- Always amazes me how many people -
MacAddictXIV,
2015-10-15, 11:00
- It's psychology - Durandal, 2015-10-15, 12:25
- Always amazes me how many people -
Cody Miller,
2015-10-15, 13:18
- But everyone knows it isn't intended behavior -
ZackDark,
2015-10-15, 13:34
- But everyone knows it isn't intended behavior -
cheapLEY,
2015-10-15, 13:36
- But everyone knows it isn't intended behavior -
Cody Miller,
2015-10-15, 19:41
- But everyone knows it isn't intended behavior - cheapLEY, 2015-10-15, 19:47
- But everyone knows it isn't intended behavior -
Ragashingo,
2015-10-15, 19:48
- But everyone knows it isn't intended behavior -
Cody Miller,
2015-10-15, 19:50
- But everyone knows it isn't intended behavior -
Ragashingo,
2015-10-15, 19:56
- But everyone knows it isn't intended behavior -
Cody Miller,
2015-10-15, 21:07
- But everyone knows it isn't intended behavior - Ragashingo, 2015-10-15, 21:09
- But everyone knows it isn't intended behavior -
Cody Miller,
2015-10-15, 21:07
- But everyone knows it isn't intended behavior - Kahzgul, 2015-10-15, 20:18
- But everyone knows it isn't intended behavior -
Ragashingo,
2015-10-15, 19:56
- But everyone knows it isn't intended behavior -
Cody Miller,
2015-10-15, 19:50
- But everyone knows it isn't intended behavior -
Cody Miller,
2015-10-15, 19:41
- But everyone knows it isn't intended behavior -
cheapLEY,
2015-10-15, 13:36
- Always amazes me how many people -
cheapLEY,
2015-10-15, 13:34
- Always amazes me how many people -
MacAddictXIV,
2015-10-15, 13:51
- Always amazes me how many people - cheapLEY, 2015-10-15, 14:22
- Always amazes me how many people -
Cody Miller,
2015-10-15, 19:43
- Always amazes me how many people - Ragashingo, 2015-10-15, 19:52
- I can definitely blame them -
someotherguy,
2015-10-16, 00:02
- I can definitely blame them - MacAddictXIV, 2015-10-16, 12:09
- Always amazes me how many people -
MacAddictXIV,
2015-10-15, 13:51
- It is *absolutely* cheating. -
Beorn,
2015-10-15, 14:32
- +1
- MacAddictXIV, 2015-10-15, 14:37
- Yup
- Anton P. Nym (aka Steve), 2015-10-15, 14:39
- This. - Ragashingo, 2015-10-15, 14:43
- I agree that it's lame. However... -
slycrel,
2015-10-15, 14:43
- I agree. However... - Ragashingo, 2015-10-15, 14:47
- + 1 -
CruelLEGACEY,
2015-10-15, 15:18
- I disagree :-) -
MacAddictXIV,
2015-10-15, 15:34
- I disagree :-) -
CruelLEGACEY,
2015-10-15, 15:37
- I disagree :-) - MacAddictXIV, 2015-10-15, 15:40
- I disagree :-) -
Cody Miller,
2015-10-15, 19:45
- I disagree :-) -
Kahzgul,
2015-10-15, 20:21
- I disagree :-) -
Cody Miller,
2015-10-15, 21:09
- I disagree :-) - Kahzgul, 2015-10-15, 21:32
- Being intentionally unfair is cheating -
ZackDark,
2015-10-15, 22:28
- Being intentionally unfair is cheating -
Cody Miller,
2015-10-15, 23:07
- If that's all you were saying, you weren't being very clear - ZackDark, 2015-10-16, 00:14
- Being intentionally unfair is cheating -
Cody Miller,
2015-10-15, 23:07
- I disagree :-) -
Cody Miller,
2015-10-15, 21:09
- I disagree :-) -
Kahzgul,
2015-10-15, 20:21
- I disagree :-) -
CruelLEGACEY,
2015-10-15, 15:37
- + 1 -
Ragashingo,
2015-10-15, 15:42
- + 1 -
CruelLEGACEY,
2015-10-15, 15:50
- + 1 - Kahzgul, 2015-10-15, 17:06
- I agree it's not a bannable offense - ZackDark, 2015-10-15, 17:19
- + 1 -
CruelLEGACEY,
2015-10-15, 15:50
- You're wrong -
Kahzgul,
2015-10-15, 16:55
- +1
- cheapLEY, 2015-10-15, 16:57
- no, I'm pretty sure you're wrong ;) -
CruelLEGACEY,
2015-10-15, 17:38
- Oh, who cares?
- Funkmon, 2015-10-15, 17:47
- I care if players are getting banned unfairly... -
CruelLEGACEY,
2015-10-15, 17:49
- I care if players are getting banned unfairly... -
Ragashingo,
2015-10-15, 17:54
- Exactly! -
Kahzgul,
2015-10-15, 18:20
- Exactly! -
CruelLEGACEY,
2015-10-15, 18:36
- Exactly! - Kahzgul, 2015-10-15, 18:43
- Exactly! -
Ragashingo,
2015-10-15, 19:32
- Exactly! -
Claude Errera,
2015-10-15, 19:39
- I agree there should be an official warning first :)
- Ragashingo, 2015-10-15, 19:42
- Giving a warning first makes sense, of course - however... - Kahzgul, 2015-10-15, 20:24
- I agree there should be an official warning first :)
- Exactly! -
Claude Errera,
2015-10-15, 19:39
- Exactly! -
CruelLEGACEY,
2015-10-15, 18:36
- Exactly! -
Kahzgul,
2015-10-15, 18:20
- "unfairly"
- someotherguy, 2015-10-16, 11:38
- I care if players are getting banned unfairly... -
Ragashingo,
2015-10-15, 17:54
- I care if players are getting banned unfairly... -
CruelLEGACEY,
2015-10-15, 17:49
- no, I'm pretty sure you're wrong ;) - Ragashingo, 2015-10-15, 17:52
- no, I'm pretty sure you're wrong ;) -
MacAddictXIV,
2015-10-15, 18:13
- no, I'm pretty sure you're wrong ;) -
Kahzgul,
2015-10-15, 18:19
- no, I'm pretty sure you're wrong ;) -
MacAddictXIV,
2015-10-15, 18:22
- no, I'm pretty sure you're wrong ;) -
Kahzgul,
2015-10-15, 18:39
- no, I'm pretty sure you're wrong ;) -
MacAddictXIV,
2015-10-15, 19:04
- no, I'm pretty sure you're wrong ;) -
Kahzgul,
2015-10-15, 19:37
- no, I'm pretty sure you're wrong ;) -
Claude Errera,
2015-10-15, 19:44
- no, I'm pretty sure you're wrong ;) -
cheapLEY,
2015-10-15, 19:55
- no, I'm pretty sure you're wrong ;) -
Claude Errera,
2015-10-15, 20:13
- A warning is totally fair -
Kahzgul,
2015-10-15, 20:27
- A warning is totally fair -
Ragashingo,
2015-10-15, 20:29
- lol. I had to re-read it to see that. :)
- Kahzgul, 2015-10-15, 20:36
- lol. I had to re-read it to see that. :)
- I don't consider a warning in a BWUpdate fair - ZackDark, 2015-10-15, 20:42
- A warning is totally fair -
Ragashingo,
2015-10-15, 20:29
- A warning is totally fair -
Kahzgul,
2015-10-15, 20:27
- no, I'm pretty sure you're wrong ;) -
Claude Errera,
2015-10-15, 20:13
- no, I'm pretty sure you're wrong ;) -
cheapLEY,
2015-10-15, 19:55
- no, I'm pretty sure you're wrong ;) -
Claude Errera,
2015-10-15, 19:44
- no, I'm pretty sure you're wrong ;) -
Kahzgul,
2015-10-15, 19:37
- no, I'm pretty sure you're wrong ;) -
MacAddictXIV,
2015-10-15, 19:04
- no, I'm pretty sure you're wrong ;) -
Kahzgul,
2015-10-15, 18:39
- no, I'm pretty sure you're wrong ;) -
MacAddictXIV,
2015-10-15, 18:22
- no, I'm pretty sure you're wrong ;) -
Kahzgul,
2015-10-15, 18:19
- I'm pretty sure it's you. -
Kahzgul,
2015-10-15, 18:17
- But every player can run as a nightstalker if they want to
- CruelLEGACEY, 2015-10-15, 18:40
- But every player can run as a nightstalker if they want to -
Kahzgul,
2015-10-15, 18:44
- But every player can run as a nightstalker if they want to -
Claude Errera,
2015-10-15, 19:12
- But every player can run as a nightstalker if they want to -
cheapLEY,
2015-10-15, 19:19
- But every player can run as a nightstalker if they want to -
Claude Errera,
2015-10-15, 19:23
- But every player can run as a nightstalker if they want to - cheapLEY, 2015-10-15, 19:36
- But every player can run as a nightstalker if they want to - Ragashingo, 2015-10-15, 19:37
- But every player can run as a nightstalker if they want to -
Claude Errera,
2015-10-15, 19:23
- But every player can run as a nightstalker if they want to -
cheapLEY,
2015-10-15, 19:19
- But every player can run as a nightstalker if they want to -
Claude Errera,
2015-10-15, 19:12
- But every player can run as a nightstalker if they want to -
Kahzgul,
2015-10-15, 18:44
- But every player can run as a nightstalker if they want to
- I see what You are saying -
TheeChaos,
2015-10-15, 18:23
- I'd be frustrated at Bungie for not fixing it not the player
- CruelLEGACEY, 2015-10-15, 18:39
- I'd be frustrated at Bungie for not fixing it not the player - someotherguy, 2015-10-16, 15:57
- I'd be frustrated at Bungie for not fixing it not the player
- you must have appreciated people getting out of the map...
- kidtsunami, 2015-10-15, 19:14
- Oh, who cares?
- +1
- I disagree :-) -
MacAddictXIV,
2015-10-15, 15:34
- Nope - Anton P. Nym (aka Steve), 2015-10-15, 15:39
- They've said that? -
someotherguy,
2015-10-15, 16:01
- They've said that? -
slycrel,
2015-10-15, 16:36
- They've said that? - someotherguy, 2015-10-15, 16:52
- They've said that? -
Ragashingo,
2015-10-15, 17:20
- Temporary bans are acceptable for obvious exploits, IMO
- ZackDark, 2015-10-15, 17:48
- I agree. I vote to lock cheaters out of next IB and Trials.
- Kahzgul, 2015-10-15, 18:45
- I agree. I vote to lock cheaters out of next IB and Trials.
- Didn't say no consequence, but they don't call it cheating
- slycrel, 2015-10-15, 18:22
- Temporary bans are acceptable for obvious exploits, IMO
- They've said that? - Kahzgul, 2015-10-15, 18:36
- They've said that? -
slycrel,
2015-10-15, 16:36
- It is *absolutely* cheating. -
dogcow,
2015-10-15, 14:47
- It is *absolutely* cheating. - MacAddictXIV, 2015-10-15, 14:54
- +1
- If this isn't cheating then what is?
- Ragashingo, 2015-10-15, 15:01
- Lag switchers
- MacAddictXIV, 2015-10-15, 15:08
- Lag switchers
- Exploiting a bug is cheating.
- Kahzgul, 2015-10-15, 16:49
- But everyone knows it isn't intended behavior -
ZackDark,
2015-10-15, 13:34
- Always amazes me how many people -
MacAddictXIV,
2015-10-15, 11:00
- Always amazes me how many people -
someotherguy,
2015-10-15, 09:57
- Please report them all - Kahzgul, 2015-10-15, 13:43
- My fear -
TheeChaos,
2015-10-15, 14:53
- Kill feed confirmations -
Durandal,
2015-10-15, 15:55
- Kill feed confirmations -
Xenos,
2015-10-15, 15:57
- Kill feed confirmations - Kahzgul, 2015-10-15, 16:48
- Kill feed confirmations -
Xenos,
2015-10-15, 15:57
- Kill feed confirmations -
Durandal,
2015-10-15, 15:55
- Unlimited Shadow Shot Glitch & Trials of Osiris -
dogcow,
2015-10-15, 18:27
- Hopefully they'll be able to fix it in time :)
- CruelLEGACEY, 2015-10-15, 18:37
- If not they should just rename it "trials of mayhem". lol. -
dogcow,
2015-10-15, 20:23
- I would easily sign up for Mayhem Trials
- ZackDark, 2015-10-15, 20:35
- I would easily sign up for Mayhem Trials
- If not they should just rename it "trials of mayhem". lol. -
dogcow,
2015-10-15, 20:23
- Hopefully they'll be able to fix it in time :)
- I hope they ban everyone, even though they won't.
- ProbablyLast, 2015-10-15, 23:05
- Nothing would make me happier than this. -
Funkmon,
2015-10-15, 23:27
- I've noticed that
- Ragashingo, 2015-10-15, 23:44
- True happiness. -
Funkmon,
2015-10-15, 23:56
- Schadenfunkmon
- Kermit, 2015-10-16, 10:00
- Schadenfunkmon
- True happiness. -
Funkmon,
2015-10-15, 23:56
- I've noticed that
- Nothing would make me happier than this. -
Funkmon,
2015-10-15, 23:27