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by ZackDark , Not behind you. NO! Don't look., Thursday, December 03, 2015, 23:21 (3068 days ago) @ CruelLEGACEY

I honestly think the totems are the hardest part of the Raid as a group. I have no idea why, but I rarely have it go smoothly, even though my blind run with DBO folks went smooth as a well-made french omelet. I do concede Oryx is really hard as well, but that's mostly due to gear check than actual strategy. Confluxes are very similar to Oryx in difficulty, IMO.

Still, Wu makes a great point. Randomly forcing someone to run the relic makes it very complex to reliably plan around.

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Update's up... - Korny, 2015-12-03, 20:43
- "One of three optional challenges" - ZackDark, 2015-12-03, 20:55
  - No Sisters - Xenos, 2015-12-03, 21:11
    - Heh, guess they'd be too easy - ZackDark, 2015-12-03, 21:42
      - Doubt that's it... - Claude Errera, 2015-12-03, 22:21
        
        On a related note... - CruelLEGACEY, 2015-12-03, 22:56
        
        On a related note... - ZackDark, 2015-12-03, 23:21
        
        On a related note... - cheapLEY, 2015-12-04, 00:11
        
        Doubt that's it... - Avateur, 2015-12-03, 23:37
  - "One of three optional challenges" - Cody Miller, 2015-12-04, 00:14
    - If that's what he means, I love lukems. - Funkmon, 2015-12-04, 00:28
    - He said that before HM came out - someotherguy, 2015-12-04, 09:07
      - He said that before HM came out - ProbablyLast, 2015-12-04, 10:24
- Cool, maybe Hunters will stop crying. - ProbablyLast, 2015-12-03, 21:08
  - Perhaps Titans can learn to play - Durandal, 2015-12-04, 16:29
    - Perhaps Titans can learn to play - MacAddictXIV, 2015-12-04, 16:43
      - Perhaps Titans can learn to play - dogcow, 2015-12-04, 16:52
        
        Perhaps Titans can learn to play - Durandal, 2015-12-04, 17:14
        
        Perhaps Titans can learn to play - MacAddictXIV, 2015-12-04, 17:24
        
        Perhaps Titans can learn to play - Ragashingo, 2015-12-04, 18:13
    - lol get your game up - Avateur, 2015-12-04, 16:55
      - I've played everything - Durandal, 2015-12-04, 17:30
        
        I've played everything - Avateur, 2015-12-04, 18:00
        
        I've played everything - Ragashingo, 2015-12-04, 18:21
        
        I've played everything - MacAddictXIV, 2015-12-04, 18:26
        
        I've played everything - Ragashingo, 2015-12-04, 18:43
        
        I've played everything - MacAddictXIV, 2015-12-04, 18:45
        
        The data doesn't support your suppositions - Durandal, 2015-12-05, 00:45
        
        That's adorable - Avateur, 2015-12-05, 01:24
    - Of course they are a bit too good in PvP - ProbablyLast, 2015-12-04, 18:35
      - Of course they are a bit too good in PvP - Ragashingo, 2015-12-04, 20:37
        
        Of course they are a bit too good in PvP - ProbablyLast, 2015-12-05, 11:59
        
        Of course they are a bit too good in PvP - Claude Errera, 2015-12-05, 21:22
        
        Of course they are a bit too good in PvP - ProbablyLast, 2015-12-05, 21:34
    - There's another downside - someotherguy, 2015-12-05, 09:40
- Update's up... - bluerunner, 2015-12-04, 00:16
  - I just hope they buff the warlock melee to make up for it. - Funkmon, 2015-12-04, 00:38
  - Update's up... - MrPadraig08, 2015-12-04, 13:25
- Eververse change - Kahzgul, 2015-12-04, 18:08
  - Eververse change - Ragashingo, 2015-12-04, 18:27
    - Eververse change - MacAddictXIV, 2015-12-04, 18:30
      - Because microtransactions - someotherguy, 2015-12-05, 09:42
- Update's up... Larger Bubble? - dogcow, 2015-12-04, 19:16
  - Update's up... Larger Bubble? - MacAddictXIV, 2015-12-04, 19:19
    - Also, that's not in game? - Earendil, 2015-12-04, 19:25
      - Also, that's not in game? - MacAddictXIV, 2015-12-04, 19:29
        
        Also, that's not in game? - Leviathan, 2015-12-04, 20:08

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