Who is your favorite bad guy? (Destiny)
I think he's a pretty good character who happens to be the antagonist.
As a proper foil for the heroine of the movie, he fails. Measured against any of the other characters he doesn't seem intimidating much at all, and certainly doesn't seem like as big a challenge to overcome. It's bad enough Rei is just a mary sue pilot/mechanic/fighter who multiclasses into Jedi master half way into the film and our plucky POV stormtrooper is lovably incompetent, but their interactions with Ren are like a videogame cutscene where you would wipe the floor with some mooks but because it's a cutscene you lose to one blow to the head or something.
Darth Vader is never seen at a disadvantage in a fight until Revenge of the Jedi. He never seems troubled by Kenobi in III, and only gets shot by Han because he's focused on Luke. In Empire he pretty much kicks everyone's butt. Going up against Vader, or even failing him, is a serious proposition that adds tension and gravitas to the plot.
The latest movie needed someone similar. Phantoma could have been the icy competent Boba Fett, but she gets all of two lines and is never used to good effect. There was really no one to be afraid of.
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- Who is your favorite bad guy? -
MacAddictXIV,
2016-02-09, 12:14
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- BL2 did it well. - ProbablyLast, 2016-02-09, 12:21
- Cartoons Count? -
Durandal,
2016-02-09, 12:25
- Cartoons Count? - MacAddictXIV, 2016-02-09, 12:27
- Thrawn is amazing. Good call.
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ZackDark,
2016-02-09, 12:32
- Thrawn is amazing. Good call. -
cheapLEY,
2016-02-09, 13:13
- I'm quite partial to Jacen's arc, to be honest -
ZackDark,
2016-02-09, 14:44
- Agreed - Blackt1g3r, 2016-02-09, 18:14
- I'm quite partial to Jacen's arc, to be honest -
Chewbaccawakka,
2016-02-09, 19:05
- Thats the only series I haven't read. -
cheapLEY,
2016-02-10, 01:13
- Thats the only series I haven't read. - Chewbaccawakka, 2016-02-10, 16:06
- Thats the only series I haven't read. -
cheapLEY,
2016-02-10, 01:13
- I'm quite partial to Jacen's arc, to be honest - CruelLEGACEY, 2016-02-10, 02:04
- I'm quite partial to Jacen's arc, to be honest - cheapLEY, 2016-02-11, 01:44
- I'm quite partial to Jacen's arc, to be honest -
ZackDark,
2016-02-09, 14:44
- Thrawn is amazing. Good call. -
cheapLEY,
2016-02-09, 13:13
- Who is your favorite bad guy? -
CruelLEGACEY,
2016-02-09, 12:58
- Who is your favorite bad guy? -
Durandal,
2016-02-09, 13:26
- Who is your favorite bad guy? -
Korny,
2016-02-09, 14:01
- Who is your favorite bad guy? -
Durandal,
2016-02-09, 14:53
- Who is your favorite bad guy? -
Korny,
2016-02-09, 15:16
- Who is your favorite bad guy? - Xenos, 2016-02-09, 15:21
- I just want to say... - DiscipleN2k, 2016-02-09, 16:29
- Who is your favorite bad guy? - MacAddictXIV, 2016-02-09, 15:24
- Who is your favorite bad guy? *SW7 Spoilers* -
CruelLEGACEY,
2016-02-09, 15:38
- Actually, about his bouts of rage... - ZackDark, 2016-02-09, 17:30
- Awesome analysis! -
Quirel,
2016-02-09, 17:32
- +++++1 -
kidtsunami,
2016-02-09, 17:48
- +1 exactly what I was thinking -
Chewbaccawakka,
2016-02-09, 19:16
- Who is your favorite bad guy? *SW7 Spoilers* -
Kermit,
2016-02-09, 19:34
- Who is your favorite bad guy? *SW7 Spoilers* -
MacAddictXIV,
2016-02-09, 19:47
- Who is your favorite bad guy? *SW7 Spoilers* - Kermit, 2016-02-09, 20:05
- Who is your favorite bad guy? *SW7 Spoilers* -
CruelLEGACEY,
2016-02-09, 20:06
- Who is your favorite bad guy? *SW7 Spoilers* -
Kermit,
2016-02-09, 20:14
- Who is your favorite bad guy? *SW7 Spoilers* -
Robot Chickens,
2016-02-09, 20:54
- Yeah, they took a weird direction with that *EU spoilers* -
ZackDark,
2016-02-09, 21:05
- Yeah, they took a weird direction with that *EU spoilers* - Robot Chickens, 2016-02-09, 21:11
- Yeah, they took a weird direction with that *EU spoilers* -
ZackDark,
2016-02-09, 21:05
- I accidentally wrote a review. *SW7 Spoilers* -
Leviathan,
2016-02-10, 03:01
- I accidentally wrote a review. *SW7 Spoilers* -
Quirel,
2016-02-10, 03:51
- This -
ZackDark,
2016-02-10, 03:59
- The more I saw it, the worse it got. -
Funkmon,
2016-02-10, 05:11
- You're an outlier, then. -
Quirel,
2016-02-10, 15:32
- Me too, I guess. :( -
Claude Errera,
2016-02-10, 17:52
- Outliers can be a good thing? -
Quirel,
2016-02-10, 18:07
- Outliers can be a good thing?
- Me too, I guess. :(
- You're an outlier, then.
- The more I saw it, the worse it got.
- This -
ZackDark,
2016-02-10, 03:59
- Let me get this straight... -
Ragashingo,
2016-02-10, 04:35
- Haha -
Leviathan,
2016-02-10, 04:45
- Haha -
bluerunner,
2016-02-10, 15:31
- Haha - MacAddictXIV, 2016-02-10, 15:38
- runpee.com -
Funkmon,
2016-02-10, 15:32
- Haha -
bluerunner,
2016-02-10, 15:31
- Haha -
Leviathan,
2016-02-10, 04:45
- I accidentally wrote a review. *SW7 Spoilers* -
Kermit,
2016-02-10, 15:13
- I accidentally wrote a review. *SW7 Spoilers* -
MacAddictXIV,
2016-02-10, 15:24
- I accidentally wrote a review. *SW7 Spoilers* -
Kermit,
2016-02-10, 15:35
- I accidentally wrote a review. *SW7 Spoilers* - MacAddictXIV, 2016-02-10, 15:40
- I accidentally wrote a review. *SW7 Spoilers* -
Kermit,
2016-02-10, 15:35
- I accidentally wrote a review. *SW7 Spoilers* -
cheapLEY,
2016-02-10, 17:06
- I accidentally wrote a review. *SW7 Spoilers* - Kermit, 2016-02-10, 17:45
- Empire is too ingrained in my heart & brain.*SW7 Spoilers* -
Leviathan,
2016-02-10, 18:59
- Empire is too ingrained in my heart & brain.*SW7 Spoilers* -
MacAddictXIV,
2016-02-10, 19:11
- Empire is too ingrained in my heart & brain.*SW7 Spoilers* - marmot 1333, 2016-02-10, 21:52
- Empire is too ingrained in my heart & brain.*SW7 Spoilers* -
MacAddictXIV,
2016-02-10, 19:11
- I accidentally wrote a review. *SW7 Spoilers* -
MacAddictXIV,
2016-02-10, 15:24
- I accidentally wrote a review. *SW7 Spoilers* -
CruelLEGACEY,
2016-02-10, 16:03
- I accidentally wrote a review. *SW7 Spoilers* - MacAddictXIV, 2016-02-10, 16:47
- I accidentally wrote a review. *SW7 Spoilers* -
Quirel,
2016-02-10, 03:51
- Who is your favorite bad guy? *SW7 Spoilers* -
Robot Chickens,
2016-02-09, 20:54
- Who is your favorite bad guy? *SW7 Spoilers* -
Kermit,
2016-02-09, 20:14
- Who is your favorite bad guy? *SW7 Spoilers* -
MacAddictXIV,
2016-02-09, 19:47
- +1 to all points. -
CyberKN,
2016-02-09, 15:48
- Who is your favorite bad guy? - Kermit, 2016-02-09, 16:33
- Who is your favorite bad guy? -
Korny,
2016-02-09, 15:16
- Who is your favorite bad guy? -
Durandal,
2016-02-09, 14:53
- Who is your favorite bad guy? -
Korny,
2016-02-09, 14:01
- Who is your favorite bad guy? -
Durandal,
2016-02-09, 13:26
- Handsome Jack and Hans Gruber -
Schedonnardus,
2016-02-09, 13:28
- Alan Rickman--Any Antagonist Role... - rellekh, 2016-02-09, 17:52
- Favorite Evil Organization/faction/whatnot - dogcow, 2016-02-09, 13:32
- Who is your favorite bad guy? - Xenos, 2016-02-09, 14:31
- Who is your favorite bald guy? -
unoudid,
2016-02-09, 16:44
- Who is your favorite bald guy? -
CyberKN,
2016-02-09, 16:46
- Who is your favorite bald guy? -
Robot Chickens,
2016-02-09, 17:29
- /me hangs head in shame - CyberKN, 2016-02-09, 17:36
- Sisko > Picard -
MacAddictXIV,
2016-02-09, 17:36
- You = Wrong ;P -
Chewbaccawakka,
2016-02-09, 19:19
- You = Wrong ;P
- Who is your favorite bald guy? -
Robot Chickens,
2016-02-09, 17:29
- Who is your favorite bald guy? -
CyberKN,
2016-02-09, 16:46
- Who is your favorite bad guy? -
Korny,
2016-02-09, 18:14
- Who is your favorite bad guy? - Cody Miller, 2016-02-09, 18:54
- Who is your favorite bad guy? - Cody Miller, 2016-02-09, 18:57
- Mass Effect: Sovereign -
CyberKN,
2016-02-09, 19:27
- Yes. - ZackDark, 2016-02-09, 20:29
- I got chills thinking about that again. -
BeardFade,
2016-02-09, 21:48
- Yep. One of the best villain speeches ever. -
Ragashingo,
2016-02-09, 22:06
- That is when the Reapers are at their best. -
Quirel,
2016-02-10, 01:20
- That is when the Reapers are at their best. -
narcogen,
2016-02-10, 06:11
- That is when the Reapers are at their best. - CyberKN, 2016-02-10, 06:41
- That is when the Reapers are at their best. -
Ragashingo,
2016-02-10, 07:24
- That is when the Reapers are at their best. -
narcogen,
2016-02-10, 08:55
- The ending failed to do the reapers justice -
Durandal,
2016-02-10, 10:52
- The ending failed to do the reapers justice -
narcogen,
2016-02-10, 11:34
- What I would have written -
Durandal,
2016-02-10, 13:19
- What I would have written -
Ragashingo,
2016-02-10, 16:31
- Massive Space Battles -
Durandal,
2016-02-10, 17:22
- Massive Space Battles -
Ragashingo,
2016-02-10, 18:44
- Massive Space Battles -
narcogen,
2016-02-11, 00:51
- Massive Space Battles -
Ragashingo,
2016-02-11, 01:46
- Massive Space Battles -
marmot 1333,
2016-02-11, 16:54
- A character who is controlled by the player... so... -
Ragashingo,
2016-02-12, 10:45
- Isn't he talking about Starchild? -
ZackDark,
2016-02-12, 11:09
- A character who is controlled by the player... so... -
marmot 1333,
2016-02-12, 15:46
- A character who is controlled by the player... so... - Ragashingo, 2016-02-12, 16:50
- Isn't he talking about Starchild?
- A character who is controlled by the player... so...
- Massive Space Battles -
marmot 1333,
2016-02-11, 16:54
- Massive Space Battles -
Ragashingo,
2016-02-11, 01:46
- Massive Space Battles -
narcogen,
2016-02-11, 00:51
- My take: - Quirel, 2016-02-11, 06:00
- Massive Space Battles -
Ragashingo,
2016-02-10, 18:44
- What I would have written -
narcogen,
2016-02-11, 00:49
- What I would have written -
Ragashingo,
2016-02-11, 01:41
- What I would have written -
narcogen,
2016-02-12, 06:57
- What I would have written -
Ragashingo,
2016-02-12, 10:40
- What I would have written - narcogen, 2016-02-12, 12:32
- What I would have written -
Ragashingo,
2016-02-12, 10:40
- What I would have written -
narcogen,
2016-02-12, 06:57
- What I would have written -
Ragashingo,
2016-02-11, 01:41
- Massive Space Battles -
Durandal,
2016-02-10, 17:22
- What I would have written -
narcogen,
2016-02-10, 23:48
- A quibble -
Durandal,
2016-02-11, 11:11
- A quibble -
narcogen,
2016-02-12, 07:13
- I don't think that means what you think it means... -
Durandal,
2016-02-12, 14:23
- I don't think that means what you think it means... - narcogen, 2016-02-13, 02:25
- I don't think that means what you think it means... -
Durandal,
2016-02-12, 14:23
- A quibble -
narcogen,
2016-02-12, 07:13
- A quibble -
Durandal,
2016-02-11, 11:11
- What I would have written -
Ragashingo,
2016-02-10, 16:31
- What I would have written -
Durandal,
2016-02-10, 13:19
- The ending failed to do the reapers justice -
narcogen,
2016-02-10, 11:34
- The ending failed to do the reapers justice -
Durandal,
2016-02-10, 10:52
- That is when the Reapers are at their best. -
narcogen,
2016-02-10, 08:55
- That is when the Reapers are at their best. -
Cody Miller,
2016-02-10, 17:52
- That is when the Reapers are at their best. - narcogen, 2016-02-11, 00:53
- That is when the Reapers are at their best. -
narcogen,
2016-02-10, 06:11
- Mass Effect: Sovereign - stabbim, 2016-02-10, 19:42
- It ain't a proper villain without a good monologue. - Quirel, 2016-02-10, 02:13
- Does Darth Revan count? - Leviathan, 2016-02-10, 03:26
- Kefka - Avateur, 2016-02-10, 03:43
- Destiny Category. - Morpheus, 2016-02-10, 05:41
- Who is your favorite bad guy? -
stabbim,
2016-02-10, 20:04
- Who is your favorite bad guy? - MacAddictXIV, 2016-02-11, 13:22